Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so confused. The killer is pro gay, anti gun?, antifa, anti Israel, anti Christian and that makes him extreme right?

So far right that he’s left I guess.

Go watch some of Nick Fuentes content to understand him. He is alt right guy who is an open anti semite and white nationalist but also criticizes trump.

Maybe to provide some context, MAGA disowned Fuentes many years ago. Fuentes is many moons more "extremist" in his views than MAGA.

Fuentes is the guy that introduced Kanye to Trump. He was also involved in J6 and is the guy Gosar keeps getting in trouble for. MAGA has not disowned him.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so confused. The killer is pro gay, anti gun?, antifa, anti Israel, anti Christian and that makes him extreme right?

So far right that he’s left I guess.

who said anything about pro gay? or anti-gun? or anti-Christian? I have no clue about the anti-Israel but I have read most of this thread and haven't seen this anywhere

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Anonymous wrote:Is he so far left that he's right or is he so far right that he's left?

https://www.wvxu.org/politics/2015-07-09/studies-link-political-ideology-with-self-control

Basically wherever he is, he is at the far end of the horseshoe. His beliefs seem incoherent.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has ZERO reputable news sources and zero links to news reports.

There have been plenty, but the MAGAs and bots infesting this thread would rather change the subject and pretend the killer was a democrat.

No, there has been none. Dcum is posting unverified and unlinked information with no sources.

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Anonymous wrote:It's looking like this was an extreme right winger who thought Kirk wasn't right wing enough.

I called it here: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/2370/1291384.page#30770208

According to the bullet scribbling, he was Antifa.

The list of messages on the suspect's casings, as described by Gov. Spencer Cox of Utah, include apparent references to online culture and gaming. "Up arrow, right arrow, and three down arrow symbols," as described by Cox, may be a reference a sequence of
moves on a controller that release a bomb in the video game "Helldivers." Another engraving, "Notices bulges OWO what's
this?" is a phrase used for trolling in online roleplay communities

I noticed you omitted the “Hey fascist! Catch” bullet that killed Kirk. And one of the unspent casings “O bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao ciao,"

About Bella Ciao…

Exactly, we have all these DCUM internet sleuths thinking that 'ciao bella' refers to something related to fascism in Italy instead of, you know, occams razor

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Anonymous wrote:Highly educated, employed, church going (preacher ID'd him) young white male who likes to hunt..... Huh.....how original, how unexpected for a murderer.

Do we want to talk who commits the most murders in this country per capita now?

Sure, let’s have that discussion! You first.

That’s the exact whataboutism that Kirk was pushing when he was shot.

PP asked about an irrelevantly large population. Everybody.

If we narrow it to extremist killings, the Anti-Defamation League has an answer. THE RIGHT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THEM FOR THE PAST 3 YEARS!

"The ADL Center on Extremism’s annual Murder and Extremism report also found that all extremist-related killings of 2024 were connected to right-wing extremism, with eight of the 13 killings involving white supremacists and the remaining five having connections to far-right anti-government extremists. This is the third year in a row that right-wing extremists have been connected to all identified extremist-related killings."

I know . . .the ADL is a pro-palestinian radical leftist group.

Wait, in July of 2024 an in innocent bystander was killed in the attempt on Trump’s life in Pennsylvania.

Either your source of info does not consider that killing an “extremist killing” or they are interpreting it as coming from the “right”.

Either way, yiu cannot possibly take that source seriously.

That attack was right-on-right violence, you've been consuming lies.

It wasn’t. More liberal lies. The Trump shooter donated to blue organizations. People can change within a couple of years. He may have been Republican in HS, but clearly he wasn’t when he tried to kill Trump.

The Charlie Kirk shooter was not maga. He didn’t vote in any election and his parents said they had a dinner where he was filled with hate. He talked about how disliking Charlie Kirk and felt his views were filled with hate. The shooters parents said their son was becoming more political and hateful.

For the dense people ( a lot on here), you can grow up in a red state around guns and not be political or Republican. Lots do democrats own guns. Like the two transgenders who killed children at school.

I love how this is held up as proof that he was a Democrat, as though hatefulness isn't a core component of MAGA and further right movements!

There might be some dense people on here, but it's mostly just you and the Iranian bots spreading lies. Dude was a rightwing nutjob. Own it.

NP. We all know exactly who the most hateful-spewing people are these days. Maybe wait until all of the facts come out before making such bold claims. I think you’re going to be proven very, very wrong.

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He had top ACT scores and received the Residential President Scholarship to Utah State for engineering, the school’s highest scholarship, which is a full ride scholarship plus R&B. But he only stayed one semester, dropped out and was currently on a 3rd yr in trade school. Odd

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Anonymous wrote:Is he so far left that he's right or is he so far right that he's left?

https://www.wvxu.org/politics/2015-07-09/studies-link-political-ideology-with-self-control

Basically wherever he is, he is at the far end of the horseshoe. His beliefs seem incoherent.

Except for two things. Hating "liberals" and wanting the Epstein files released.

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jsteele wrote:I just published a blog post about the suspect:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/weblog/2025/09/12/update091225

Please read it.

Is there some significance to the $224.48 amount he donated? That seems like an odd (and high) number to choose at random.

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Anonymous wrote:Highly educated, employed, church going (preacher ID'd him) young white male who likes to hunt..... Huh.....how original, how unexpected for a murderer.

Do we want to talk who commits the most murders in this country per capita now?

Sure, let’s have that discussion! You first.

That’s the exact whataboutism that Kirk was pushing when he was shot.

PP asked about an irrelevantly large population. Everybody.

If we narrow it to extremist killings, the Anti-Defamation League has an answer. THE RIGHT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THEM FOR THE PAST 3 YEARS!

"The ADL Center on Extremism’s annual Murder and Extremism report also found that all extremist-related killings of 2024 were connected to right-wing extremism, with eight of the 13 killings involving white supremacists and the remaining five having connections to far-right anti-government extremists. This is the third year in a row that right-wing extremists have been connected to all identified extremist-related killings."

I know . . .the ADL is a pro-palestinian radical leftist group.

Wait, in July of 2024 an in innocent bystander was killed in the attempt on Trump’s life in Pennsylvania.

Either your source of info does not consider that killing an “extremist killing” or they are interpreting it as coming from the “right”.

Either way, yiu cannot possibly take that source seriously.

That attack was right-on-right violence, you've been consuming lies.

It wasn’t. More liberal lies. The Trump shooter donated to blue organizations. People can change within a couple of years. He may have been Republican in HS, but clearly he wasn’t when he tried to kill Trump.

The Charlie Kirk shooter was not maga. He didn’t vote in any election and his parents said they had a dinner where he was filled with hate. He talked about how disliking Charlie Kirk and felt his views were filled with hate. The shooters parents said their son was becoming more political and hateful.

For the dense people ( a lot on here), you can grow up in a red state around guns and not be political or Republican. Lots do democrats own guns. Like the two transgenders who killed children at school.

Catch up, PP. He was a groyper. The groypers know it. Nick Fuentes knows it. Nick Fuentes is clearly freaked out about this and made a statement telling people not to take up arms (which is literally the least he can do but still I am glad he did it, it's more than our president would). He knows this is connected to him and a group so alt-right that they were at "war" with Charlie Kirk for not being right enough.

You haven’t provided a single news source, link, etc.

You are making up your own narrative.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't it weird/disconcerting that his father turned in his own son? I couldn't imagine doing that to my own child.

Me either, but, according to pps, that makes us bad parents.

I don't think you're a bad parent, I just wonder what the hell is going on... if your kid is a murderer there's nothing you can do but help them face the consequences, seek forgiveness and try for rehabilitation.

On the most practical level, they're safer in the justice system, going through the process with a good lawyer than they are on the outside facing vigilante justice or, like Joran Van der Sloot becoming a magnet for grifters and weirdos.

Any attempt to explain it makes me seem immoral, although it doesn't feel wrong to protect my child in that way. I'm pretty sure neither of us will be in that position, thankfully.

To me, protecting your child includes helping them own up to their mistakes.

Turning your kid in for a cash reward and refusing to help them hire an attorney, never visiting, testifying against them, etc. that would be a betrayal. Helping them to do the right thing, even if it's hard, is the right thing to do and as a parent that's what you should want.

If my kid could live with it and get away clean, I'd want them to be free. I grew up differently than you, my kids and most people. That probably colors my impression of what I would do in this completely hypothetical situation.

Look how Brian Laundrie ended.

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jsteele wrote:I just published a blog post about the suspect:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/weblog/2025/09/12/update091225

Please read it.

Thank you. Very good summary / analysis!

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has ZERO reputable news sources and zero links to news reports.

There have been plenty, but the MAGAs and bots infesting this thread would rather change the subject and pretend the killer was a democrat.

No, there has been none. Dcum is posting unverified and unlinked information with no sources.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspect-charlie-kirk-shooting-tyler-robinson-rcna230504

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Anonymous wrote:This is from last night, Fuentes recognized one of his own.

thank you for posting this.

I wonder how Fuentes knew last night.

I was posting on this thread since it started and I "knew" - it was obvious, particularly in light of Laura Loomers now deleted post.

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Anonymous wrote:Highly educated, employed, church going (preacher ID'd him) young white male who likes to hunt..... Huh.....how original, how unexpected for a murderer.

Do we want to talk who commits the most murders in this country per capita now?

Sure, let’s have that discussion! You first.

That’s the exact whataboutism that Kirk was pushing when he was shot.

PP asked about an irrelevantly large population. Everybody.

If we narrow it to extremist killings, the Anti-Defamation League has an answer. THE RIGHT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THEM FOR THE PAST 3 YEARS!

"The ADL Center on Extremism’s annual Murder and Extremism report also found that all extremist-related killings of 2024 were connected to right-wing extremism, with eight of the 13 killings involving white supremacists and the remaining five having connections to far-right anti-government extremists. This is the third year in a row that right-wing extremists have been connected to all identified extremist-related killings."

I know . . .the ADL is a pro-palestinian radical leftist group.

Wait, in July of 2024 an in innocent bystander was killed in the attempt on Trump’s life in Pennsylvania.

Either your source of info does not consider that killing an “extremist killing” or they are interpreting it as coming from the “right”.

Either way, yiu cannot possibly take that source seriously.

That attack was right-on-right violence, you've been consuming lies.

It wasn’t. More liberal lies. The Trump shooter donated to blue organizations. People can change within a couple of years. He may have been Republican in HS, but clearly he wasn’t when he tried to kill Trump.

The Charlie Kirk shooter was not maga. He didn’t vote in any election and his parents said they had a dinner where he was filled with hate. He talked about how disliking Charlie Kirk and felt his views were filled with hate. The shooters parents said their son was becoming more political and hateful.

For the dense people ( a lot on here), you can grow up in a red state around guns and not be political or Republican. Lots do democrats own guns. Like the two transgenders who killed children at school.

Catch up, PP. He was a groyper. The groypers know it. Nick Fuentes knows it. Nick Fuentes is clearly freaked out about this and made a statement telling people not to take up arms (which is literally the least he can do but still I am glad he did it, it's more than our president would). He knows this is connected to him and a group so alt-right that they were at "war" with Charlie Kirk for not being right enough.

You haven’t provided a single news source, link, etc.

You are making up your own narrative.

Did you read Jeff's post above? He addresses all of this.