DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not
![[Post New]](/jforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif){kind=icon}
Anonymous
Please spare us all. No one of consequence will listen to you so you’re on DCUM trolling. You’re a zero in the soccer world. 4 decades screaming at the telly. What a loser! |
Anonymous
Please just shut up 🤫 |
Anonymous
1) He has dual citizenship and could have went over at 16. That means his family and Philly Union are more confident in their development system than Man City and they could not agreed on compensation. That is what people smarter and more connected than me have told me. Based on our US track record, you don’t stay in the states when you have the option to go ASAP. 2) Have you tracked the success of Man City’s last 10 signings? Don’t confuse the name and success with their batting average. I would not say they are playing money ball. For the sanctity of everyone else in the states, I hope Cavan succeeds. If he doesn’t, it is going to expose the US in a very unfavorable way, especially if Albert surpasses him developing in Germany. |
Anonymous
I never said my son will be a pro and your assumption of self-esteem is a reflection of your self-belief which is why you hit so hard at DCU criticism. It hurts your ego. I will 🙏 for you. IT IS EXTREMELY HARD AND UNLIKELY TO BECOME A PRO. It is not hard for a kid with my son’s work ethic and capacity to make it to an academy. Would you like me to not believe in my son? Is that the DCU Academy blueprint for ineptitude? (Only train 1x a day because you’ll never go pro anyway) So, I’m actually pulling for the kids in the academy and hoping for progress and improvement in the academy. Would you prefer me to hate on you and the organization and pray for you to stay down? God bless you man and everybody who has to deal with you in a daily basis. Must be 🤩 |
Anonymous
You've got me confused, my friend. I have neither praised DC United nor criticized it's detractors on this board. I'm just amazed by your hubris, based on your son. It's kind of gross and your reply above proves the point. |
Anonymous
True, no 14 year old or their parents in their right mind wants to go to a club like Manchester City at 18 Career suicide in a horrible low performing low budget organization in a small time league |
Anonymous
We're all sure dealing with you on a daily basis, especially as another parent on your son's team must be heavenly bliss |
Anonymous
Again, spoken like someone who doesn't know sh#t about football realities and being a professional. Next year cavan will be 18. Who will be his competition at City in positions he can realistically play? Phil foden, Bernardo silva, Cherki, Jeremy Doku. 🤣 NO CHANCE he is beating out those players for a roster spot and there is probably no chance he is making the bench either. So much talent at City in those positions. And if you have followed city's academy, they have a strong pipeline at central midfield and wing as well. You're doing what most Americans do when it comes to football and that is chase names and perceived prestige, but completely overlook what is the absolute best move for the player. It is the same thing everyone does with DCU. Cavan Sullivan is not an impact player in the MLS and more likely than not he will continue to be an average MLS player for this season. You think moving to Manchester City is the right move for a player like that??? But unfortunately he doesn't have a choice because the clubs agreed on his move already. Yeah it sounds nice to go to man city for philly Union and for the player but the move to city is not smart at this point in his career. He just isn't ready for it. It would be better for his career and development as a player to go to a smaller club, have them absolutely NEED him and work his way up from there without the expectations of man city looming. But Union and likely his agency (who gets paid when the player gets paid)wanted to try and monetize him as quickly as possible which I understand but this doesn't mean that any of it was the absolutebbest for him as a player. To me, career suicide, at least in Europe, is not too far off. He will go to Europe and to one of the most high profile clubs in the world with tons of expectations, with no chance of cracking into the first team because there is too much roster depth there FAR better than him, and with hardly any high-level experience under his belt coming from the MLS. They will loan him some place else in the city ecosystem where he will play and HAVE to perform because they will need him and most likely be exposed because again, he is coming from the MLS and barely having impact there. If the loan stint doesn't work in a lower league/team that won't be good for his reputation and he will go back to city they will maybe loan him out again and if it doesn't work then, he will mostly likely be back in the MLS after two years "at Manchester City". Being at a big club like city isn't great for a player in his situation that is not an impact player right away. Cavan Sullivan is the player he is going to be, NOW. He's not growing, not going to get faster or much stronger because he's already got his man muscles, so you're looking at the player he will be. And that player is an average player in the MLS who was previously dominating kids in the youth system because he was physically more mature than everyone else at an early age. No way I'm signing that player up for a rollercoaster at City where they can minimize him in seconds with superior talent from all over the world. I wouldn't sign my player up for that both for his development and his mentality. So yes, no way I would want to be at City with this backdrop. Not with a player with his profile. If he was still growing physically, and maturing physically and there was upside potential there, I may think differently. But he is a classic early developer and those players rarely hit. |
Anonymous
|
Take note US Soccer . . .
“a classic early developer and those players rarely hit.” |
Anonymous
You are saying that CS "is the player he is going to be, NOW." If, in your view he has peaked already and will never rise to being an impact player in Europe, let alone Man City, then why is it such a bad decision to sign for the money he's getting now and whatever average MLS midfielder will make when he "most likely" ends up back in MLS? What major european club or national team do you scout for again? And what's the connection to DCUA? It seems like you're saying Philly Union sucks too and only does what's best for them, not player and his long-term development. |
Anonymous
|
I take it DCU has still not secured a deal with Baltimore to bring in a second team like normal franchises.
Under the new leadership, have the technical standards improved or is it still fast and furious? |
Anonymous
He’s not wrong. I believe Cavan will figure out how to keep developing but most of what he is saying is accurate. Look at Semenyo vs Savinho. Savinho was much more talented than Semenyo at the equivalent age. Semenyo was in the shadows as lower clubs developing and when he hit city he has years of confidence under his belt to take over the winger spot. Savinho is not ready for that prime time and would benefit from a loan move like Endrick. I am American. We chase far too many badges and names instead of the grind of development. The headlines won’t be printed when an American is at Wolfsburg, Norwich City, PSV, etc. I understand the move for Cavan by all parties. I also know that it is during this precise period that Europeans and SA’s begin separating from Americans. I hope Philly Union has solved that equation because I am fairly certain DCU is not close. What I don’t understand is how we can be so arrogant living in such an international city when so may people locally actually knows what development should look like and have roots from successful countries. |
Anonymous
It is such a bad decision because he could have leveraged the hype train they built on him for much more money someplace else. At the time of signing with Union he was supposed to be the top American youth player in the country WITH a European passport. If we're only talking about making money, he could have gotten more in the market for sure. But Union didn't want that short term money given his age and perceived potential. They are all in on the long term earning potential of Sullivan. Union wanted a way to control its premier asset AND secure more money in the future. Which it did. Doesnt mean this was best for the player. Union did what was best for Union for sure and that is what businesses do. Has nothing to do with unions development ability because end of day this player developed in their system. FAR FAR away from DCUs...and they trust that they can develop him. I just don't believe they can develop him into a top European talent in the next 2-3 years. They think so. And I don't believe a top talent will ever reach their true potential playing in the MLS or it's academeis. ANY OF THEM...some.juet happen to be better than others. DCU is one of the worst. |
Anonymous
Correct. Technical standards are better than a few years ago but still way off from what better academies are doing. |
Anonymous
Because the soccer establishment in this country wants to continue to milk ignorant parents for all of their money with false promises of soccer development without someone challenging them. Anyone with real knowledge or experience that tries to upset this status quo will be met with massive opposition. Like you see on here when people talk about the realities of DCU...There is so much money at stake, protecting this false narrative in the country is of paramount importance to the soccer establishment that, for the most part knows very little about the sport or even played the sport beyond college. |