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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]And locking yourself to one club at 14, when you're still developing is dumb.  City has more players in his position than he will ever beat out for a spot.  On the first team and in the academy
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So 14 year olds at academies in Europe are locked into multiple clubs?[/quote]

They can sign wherever suits them best.  They dont have to go to a pre selected club when they turn 18.[/quote]

True, no 14 year old or their parents in their right mind wants to go to a club like Manchester City at 18

Career suicide in a horrible low performing low budget organization in a small time league [/quote]

Again, spoken like someone who doesn't know sh#t about football realities and being a professional.  Next year cavan will be 18. Who will be his competition at City in positions he can realistically play?  Phil foden, Bernardo silva, Cherki, Jeremy Doku. 🤣  NO CHANCE he is beating out those players for a roster spot and there is probably  no chance he is making the bench either.  So much talent at City in those positions. And if you have followed city's academy, they have a strong pipeline at central midfield and wing as well.  You're doing what most Americans do when it comes to football and that is chase names and perceived prestige, but completely overlook what is the absolute best move for the player.  It is the same thing everyone does with DCU.

Cavan Sullivan is not an impact player in the MLS and more likely than not he will continue to be an average MLS player for this season.  You think moving to Manchester City is the right move for a player like that???  But unfortunately he doesn't have a choice because the clubs agreed on his move already.  Yeah it sounds nice to go to man city for philly Union and for the player but the move to city is not smart at this point in his career.  He just isn't ready for it.  It would be better for his career and development as a player to go to a smaller club, have them absolutely NEED him and work his way up from there without the expectations of man city looming.  But Union and likely his agency (who gets paid when the player gets paid)wanted to try and monetize him as quickly as possible which I understand but this doesn't mean that any of it was the absolutebbest for him as a player.

To me, career suicide, at least in Europe,  is not too far off.  He will go to Europe and to one of the most high profile clubs in the world with tons of expectations, with no chance of cracking into the first team because there is too much roster depth there FAR better than him, and with hardly any high-level experience under his belt coming from the MLS.  They will loan him some place else in the city ecosystem where he will play and HAVE to perform because they will need him and most likely be exposed because again, he is coming from the MLS and barely having impact there.  If the loan stint doesn't work in a lower league/team that won't be good for his reputation and he will go back to city they will maybe loan him out again and if it doesn't work then, he will mostly likely be back in the MLS after two years "at Manchester City".

Being at a big club like city isn't great for a player in his situation that is not an impact player right away.  Cavan Sullivan is the player he is going to be, NOW.  He's not growing, not going to get faster or much stronger because he's already got his man muscles, so you're looking at the player he will be. And that player is an average player in the MLS who was previously dominating kids in the youth system because he was physically more mature than everyone else at an early age.  No way I'm signing that player up for a rollercoaster at City where they can minimize him in seconds with superior talent from all over the world.  I wouldn't sign my player up for that both for his development and his mentality.

So yes, no way I would want to be at City with this backdrop.  Not with a player with his profile.  If he was still growing physically, and maturing physically and there was upside potential there, I may think differently.  But he is a classic early developer and those players rarely hit. [/quote]

You are saying that CS "is the player he is going to be, NOW."  If, in your view he has peaked already and will never rise to being an impact player in Europe, let alone Man City, then why is it such a bad decision to sign for the money he's getting now and whatever average MLS midfielder will make when he "most likely" ends up back in MLS?  What major european club or national team do you scout for again?  And what's the connection to DCUA?  It seems like you're saying Philly Union sucks too and only does what's best for them, not player and his long-term development.[/quote]

He’s not wrong.  I believe Cavan will figure out how to keep developing but most of what he is saying is accurate.  Look at Semenyo vs Savinho.  Savinho was much more talented than Semenyo at the equivalent age.  Semenyo was in the shadows as lower clubs developing and when he hit city he has years of confidence under his belt to take over the winger spot.  Savinho is not ready for that prime time and would benefit from a loan move like Endrick.

I am American.  We chase far too many badges and names instead of the grind of development.

The headlines won’t be printed when an American is at Wolfsburg, Norwich City, PSV, etc.  I understand the move for Cavan by all parties.  I also know that it is during this precise period that Europeans and SA’s begin separating from Americans.  I hope Philly Union has solved that equation because I am fairly certain DCU is not close.

What I don’t understand is how we can be so arrogant living in such an international city when so may people locally actually knows what development should look like and have roots from successful countries.  [/quote]

Because the soccer establishment in this country wants to continue to milk ignorant parents for all of their money with false promises of soccer development without someone challenging them. Anyone with real knowledge or experience that tries to upset this status quo will be met with massive opposition.  Like you see on here when people talk about the realities of DCU...There is so much money at stake, protecting this false narrative in the country is of paramount importance to the soccer establishment that, for the most part knows very little about the sport or even played the sport beyond college.  [/quote]

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