DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

[Anonymous]

Mathis Albert is a far better talent than Cavan Sullivan, same age, but plays at Dortmund versus Philadelphia Union. I would gamble on Albert making it. Sullivan, probably a decent MLS player. Why you can't anoint a 14 year old that has finished puberty early.

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Anonymous wrote:What makes you think his family has money. He is from a working class family who have made their way via soccer. Don't talk about what you don't know about.

His family had the means to support him and his brother in soccer and give them inside connections. Grandfather coach at Villanova, Dad a teacher at YSC giving inroads to Union, dad also played professionally. Chris Albright with US Soccer is their cousin (a former national team player). The family's connections and resources available paved the way for both kids. This is the profile that has a good chance of making it in our system. A family with no means, no connections and no contacts in the football establishment in our country has practically no chance.

News flash.
Without absurd luck, a family with no connections and no contacts anywhere in the world has less chances at the few spaces at the top of soccer.

It's not just skills when there are thousands of skilled players.

Spoken like an American with no experience with the sport outside of the US.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mathis Albert is a far better talent than Cavan Sullivan, same age, but plays at Dortmund versus Philadelphia Union. I would gamble on Albert making it. Sullivan, probably a decent MLS player. Why you can't anoint a 14 year old that has finished puberty early.

Your opinion is duly noted

How does it change the fact Man City sees Sullivan's potential differently than you do and they are professionals?

No young player is guaranteed for adult success, but you bashing on Cavan and saying he won't make it is the Hater in you.

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Anonymous wrote:What makes you think his family has money. He is from a working class family who have made their way via soccer. Don't talk about what you don't know about.

His family had the means to support him and his brother in soccer and give them inside connections. Grandfather coach at Villanova, Dad a teacher at YSC giving inroads to Union, dad also played professionally. Chris Albright with US Soccer is their cousin (a former national team player). The family's connections and resources available paved the way for both kids. This is the profile that has a good chance of making it in our system. A family with no means, no connections and no contacts in the football establishment in our country has practically no chance.

News flash.
Without absurd luck, a family with no connections and no contacts anywhere in the world has less chances at the few spaces at the top of soccer.

It's not just skills when there are thousands of skilled players.

Spoken like an American with no experience with the sport outside of the US.

You think you being a foreigner gives you advanced knowledge?
An accent isn't soccer PhD

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Anonymous wrote:Why would you knock Cavan Sullivan? He is a 16-year old kid who has had great success because he is gritty, hard working, and talented. Why attack a player who is working hard to be successful?

Cause he knows way more than Man City! How does he find the time?

When he suits up for man city let me know. Won't happen...

What a Hater hahahaha

I don't think there is any hate. Just exposing the realities of the situation that most of you dont understand because your knowledge of football comes from the US and the MLS.

Cavan Sullivan was selected by Manchester City as a good youth player that they see to have obvious strong potential, or they wouldn't sign him.

What have you said to make that not a fact and what does it have to do with US knowledge?

Man city didn't sign cavan Sullivan. Philadelphia Union did with an "agreement" that he would move to city at 18 if certain conditions are met. Mainly,is he good enough. He could have gone to a city affiliate at 16 because he has a euro passport but he didn't. Ever wonder why? Because he's not ready to play at that level. So, its more Philadelphia Union selected cavan Sullivan as a talented player and did a remarkable job of convincing city that they should take a flier on him if he's ready at 18 which is completely unions responsibility to develop him. City is not really involved. Just will get a player if he pans out. If not, it doesn't matter to city they paid no money for it.

[Anonymous]

And locking yourself to one club at 14, when you're still developing is dumb. City has more players in his position than he will ever beat out for a spot. On the first team and in the academy

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Anonymous wrote:What makes you think his family has money. He is from a working class family who have made their way via soccer. Don't talk about what you don't know about.

His family had the means to support him and his brother in soccer and give them inside connections. Grandfather coach at Villanova, Dad a teacher at YSC giving inroads to Union, dad also played professionally. Chris Albright with US Soccer is their cousin (a former national team player). The family's connections and resources available paved the way for both kids. This is the profile that has a good chance of making it in our system. A family with no means, no connections and no contacts in the football establishment in our country has practically no chance.

News flash.
Without absurd luck, a family with no connections and no contacts anywhere in the world has less chances at the few spaces at the top of soccer.

It's not just skills when there are thousands of skilled players.

Spoken like an American with no experience with the sport outside of the US.

You think you being a foreigner gives you advanced knowledge?
An accent isn't soccer PhD

No but being in the sport for over 4 decades overseas does. .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And locking yourself to one club at 14, when you're still developing is dumb. City has more players in his position than he will ever beat out for a spot. On the first team and in the academy

The deal is better for Union than the player. City has a lot of cash.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would you knock Cavan Sullivan? He is a 16-year old kid who has had great success because he is gritty, hard working, and talented. Why attack a player who is working hard to be successful?

Cause he knows way more than Man City! How does he find the time?

When he suits up for man city let me know. Won't happen...

What a Hater hahahaha

I don't think there is any hate. Just exposing the realities of the situation that most of you dont understand because your knowledge of football comes from the US and the MLS.

Cavan Sullivan was selected by Manchester City as a good youth player that they see to have obvious strong potential, or they wouldn't sign him.

What have you said to make that not a fact and what does it have to do with US knowledge?

Man city didn't sign cavan Sullivan. Philadelphia Union did with an "agreement" that he would move to city at 18 if certain conditions are met. Mainly,is he good enough. He could have gone to a city affiliate at 16 because he has a euro passport but he didn't. Ever wonder why? Because he's not ready to play at that level. So, its more Philadelphia Union selected cavan Sullivan as a talented player and did a remarkable job of convincing city that they should take a flier on him if he's ready at 18 which is completely unions responsibility to develop him. City is not really involved. Just will get a player if he pans out. If not, it doesn't matter to city they paid no money for it.

Cavan Sullivan has an agreement to join Manchester City when he turns 18 (in 2027), after signing a record MLS homegrown contract with the Philadelphia Union in May 2024, which includes a significant transfer fee ($2M-$5M) and a sell-on clause for Philly. While he's not officially a Man City player yet, he trains with them periodically, and the deal ensures his development in the City Football Group, potentially with other European sides if he outgrows the Union sooner.

Key Details of the Contract:
Union Contract: Sullivan signed the biggest homegrown deal in MLS history with the Union, earning around $500,000 annually, reported to be the highest for a homegrown player.

Man City Transfer: The deal allows him to join Manchester City once he's 18 in 2027, per FIFA rules.

Financials: Manchester City will pay the Union a seven-figure sum, potentially up to $5 million, with add-ons.
Sell-On Clause: Philadelphia retains a significant sell-on percentage for future transfers.

Flexibility: If Sullivan's development surpasses MLS before 18, he could move to another City Football Group (CFG) team in Europe.

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Anonymous wrote:And locking yourself to one club at 14, when you're still developing is dumb. City has more players in his position than he will ever beat out for a spot. On the first team and in the academy

So 14 year olds at academies in Europe are locked into multiple clubs?

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Anonymous wrote:What makes you think his family has money. He is from a working class family who have made their way via soccer. Don't talk about what you don't know about.

His family had the means to support him and his brother in soccer and give them inside connections. Grandfather coach at Villanova, Dad a teacher at YSC giving inroads to Union, dad also played professionally. Chris Albright with US Soccer is their cousin (a former national team player). The family's connections and resources available paved the way for both kids. This is the profile that has a good chance of making it in our system. A family with no means, no connections and no contacts in the football establishment in our country has practically no chance.

News flash.
Without absurd luck, a family with no connections and no contacts anywhere in the world has less chances at the few spaces at the top of soccer.

It's not just skills when there are thousands of skilled players.

Spoken like an American with no experience with the sport outside of the US.

You think you being a foreigner gives you advanced knowledge?
An accent isn't soccer PhD

No but being in the sport for over 4 decades overseas does. .

Give details of being in the sport in exactly what capacity and where. Be proud of your track record.

Since you're trying to convince us of your top tier pedigree

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Anonymous wrote:And locking yourself to one club at 14, when you're still developing is dumb. City has more players in his position than he will ever beat out for a spot. On the first team and in the academy

So 14 year olds at academies in Europe are locked into multiple clubs?

They can sign wherever suits them best. They dont have to go to a pre selected club when they turn 18.

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Anonymous wrote:What makes you think his family has money. He is from a working class family who have made their way via soccer. Don't talk about what you don't know about.

His family had the means to support him and his brother in soccer and give them inside connections. Grandfather coach at Villanova, Dad a teacher at YSC giving inroads to Union, dad also played professionally. Chris Albright with US Soccer is their cousin (a former national team player). The family's connections and resources available paved the way for both kids. This is the profile that has a good chance of making it in our system. A family with no means, no connections and no contacts in the football establishment in our country has practically no chance.

News flash.
Without absurd luck, a family with no connections and no contacts anywhere in the world has less chances at the few spaces at the top of soccer.

It's not just skills when there are thousands of skilled players.

Spoken like an American with no experience with the sport outside of the US.

You think you being a foreigner gives you advanced knowledge?
An accent isn't soccer PhD

No but being in the sport for over 4 decades overseas does. .

Give details of being in the sport in exactly what capacity and where. Be proud of your track record.

Since you're trying to convince us of your top tier pedigree

I don't need to convince you. You're irrelevant. I couldnt care less if you believe what I'm saying or not.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would you knock Cavan Sullivan? He is a 16-year old kid who has had great success because he is gritty, hard working, and talented. Why attack a player who is working hard to be successful?

Cause he knows way more than Man City! How does he find the time?

When he suits up for man city let me know. Won't happen...

What a Hater hahahaha

I don't think there is any hate. Just exposing the realities of the situation that most of you dont understand because your knowledge of football comes from the US and the MLS.

Cavan Sullivan was selected by Manchester City as a good youth player that they see to have obvious strong potential, or they wouldn't sign him.

What have you said to make that not a fact and what does it have to do with US knowledge?

Man city didn't sign cavan Sullivan. Philadelphia Union did with an "agreement" that he would move to city at 18 if certain conditions are met. Mainly,is he good enough. He could have gone to a city affiliate at 16 because he has a euro passport but he didn't. Ever wonder why? Because he's not ready to play at that level. So, its more Philadelphia Union selected cavan Sullivan as a talented player and did a remarkable job of convincing city that they should take a flier on him if he's ready at 18 which is completely unions responsibility to develop him. City is not really involved. Just will get a player if he pans out. If not, it doesn't matter to city they paid no money for it.

Cavan Sullivan has an agreement to join Manchester City when he turns 18 (in 2027), after signing a record MLS homegrown contract with the Philadelphia Union in May 2024, which includes a significant transfer fee ($2M-$5M) and a sell-on clause for Philly. While he's not officially a Man City player yet, he trains with them periodically, and the deal ensures his development in the City Football Group, potentially with other European sides if he outgrows the Union sooner.

Key Details of the Contract:
Union Contract: Sullivan signed the biggest homegrown deal in MLS history with the Union, earning around $500,000 annually, reported to be the highest for a homegrown player.

Man City Transfer: The deal allows him to join Manchester City once he's 18 in 2027, per FIFA rules.

Financials: Manchester City will pay the Union a seven-figure sum, potentially up to $5 million, with add-ons.
Sell-On Clause: Philadelphia retains a significant sell-on percentage for future transfers.

Flexibility: If Sullivan's development surpasses MLS before 18, he could move to another City Football Group (CFG) team in Europe.

Exactly what I said. The only contract that was signed was with union and Sullivan. City is an add on that is incentive laden to reach 5.million. which won't be reached. Sullivan is an average player at Union.

[Anonymous]

And just so we are keeping our eye on the prize...no player at DCU will ever reach this status.