FCPS comprehensive boundary review

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Do the people representing each pyramid all have children currently enrolled in FCPS?

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Anonymous wrote:Do the people representing each pyramid all have children currently enrolled in FCPS?

Some do, some don’t. It’s good to have both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do the people representing each pyramid all have children currently enrolled in FCPS?

No they do not, this was confirmed at the Mount Vernon community meeting when one of the community reps had only older children who had already graduated.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do the people representing each pyramid all have children currently enrolled in FCPS?

Some do, some don’t. It’s good to have both.

It leaves pyramids unrepresented

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Anonymous wrote:Do the people representing each pyramid all have children currently enrolled in FCPS?

No they do not, this was confirmed at the Mount Vernon community meeting when one of the community reps had only older children who had already graduated.

I think this is good. Most adults in Fairfax County do not have children in the schools, but since they are also part of the community and also pay taxes that fund the schools, they should have a say too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do the people representing each pyramid all have children currently enrolled in FCPS?

Some do, some don’t. It’s good to have both.

It leaves pyramids unrepresented

No it doesn’t.

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Anonymous wrote:From the posts, it seems like people are most upset about one extra rep from Woodson that is also in another group and that FairFACTs Matters does not have representation. What are the others?

Read upthread. Do you plan to do something about it? Or just trolling so you can keep defending the indefensible?

I'm just trying to figure out why people are so upset about it and how many of the committee members are controversial. I feel like the school system included quite a few of the different voices in our community and I have been ok with the process thus far.

Sounds disingenuous to me. They are clearly stacking the deck and giving special treatment to some while shutting others out.

Nah. I think you're just scared of change.

Nah, they just stacked the committee with friendly faces who'll rubber stamp what Reid and the School Board want to do.

Change is good, when it's sensible. Big doubts as to whether this process can lead to that. Like maybe they ought to figure out what they are doing with AAP centers, IB, and Academy programs before they start moving kids around like widgets.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the posts, it seems like people are most upset about one extra rep from Woodson that is also in another group and that FairFACTs Matters does not have representation. What are the others?

Read upthread. Do you plan to do something about it? Or just trolling so you can keep defending the indefensible?

I'm just trying to figure out why people are so upset about it and how many of the committee members are controversial. I feel like the school system included quite a few of the different voices in our community and I have been ok with the process thus far.

Sounds disingenuous to me. They are clearly stacking the deck and giving special treatment to some while shutting others out.

+1. They aren’t just putting their thumb on the scale, Sandy Anderson it’s sitting on the scale with these picks…

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Anonymous wrote:From the posts, it seems like people are most upset about one extra rep from Woodson that is also in another group and that FairFACTs Matters does not have representation. What are the others?

Read upthread. Do you plan to do something about it? Or just trolling so you can keep defending the indefensible?

I'm just trying to figure out why people are so upset about it and how many of the committee members are controversial. I feel like the school system included quite a few of the different voices in our community and I have been ok with the process thus far.

Sounds disingenuous to me. They are clearly stacking the deck and giving special treatment to some while shutting others out.

Nah. I think you're just scared of change.

Nah, they just stacked the committee with friendly faces who'll rubber stamp what Reid and the School Board want to do.

Change is good, when it's sensible. Big doubts as to whether this process can lead to that. Like maybe they ought to figure out what they are doing with AAP centers, IB, and Academy programs before they start moving kids around like widgets.

+1 I think if they had figured out AAP centers and middle school AAP (either staying as they are or being discontinued but a firm position one way or another), and had been more open about discontinuing IB at some schools, that they could look at the boundary situation with fresher eyes. I would also add to that a willingness to change the renovation queue for the HS’s and say that they will do construction projects at least at McLean and Lewis before moving any more kids into these schools. I think the public’s acceptance of the boundary review would be higher and there wouldn’t be as many conspiracies and distrust.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the posts, it seems like people are most upset about one extra rep from Woodson that is also in another group and that FairFACTs Matters does not have representation. What are the others?

Read upthread. Do you plan to do something about it? Or just trolling so you can keep defending the indefensible?

I'm just trying to figure out why people are so upset about it and how many of the committee members are controversial. I feel like the school system included quite a few of the different voices in our community and I have been ok with the process thus far.

Sounds disingenuous to me. They are clearly stacking the deck and giving special treatment to some while shutting others out.

Nah. I think you're just scared of change.

Nah, they just stacked the committee with friendly faces who'll rubber stamp what Reid and the School Board want to do.

Change is good, when it's sensible. Big doubts as to whether this process can lead to that. Like maybe they ought to figure out what they are doing with AAP centers, IB, and Academy programs before they start moving kids around like widgets.

+1 I think if they had figured out AAP centers and middle school AAP (either staying as they are or being discontinued but a firm position one way or another), and had been more open about discontinuing IB at some schools, that they could look at the boundary situation with fresher eyes. I would also add to that a willingness to change the renovation queue for the HS’s and say that they will do construction projects at least at McLean and Lewis before moving any more kids into these schools. I think the public’s acceptance of the boundary review would be higher and there wouldn’t be as many conspiracies and distrust.

A renovated Lewis is still a high poverty school. I doubt anyone would be excited to send their kids their who wasn't already. Meanwhile, an un-renovated McLean is still one of the best schools in the state.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do the people representing each pyramid all have children currently enrolled in FCPS?

No they do not, this was confirmed at the Mount Vernon community meeting when one of the community reps had only older children who had already graduated.

I think this is good. Most adults in Fairfax County do not have children in the schools, but since they are also part of the community and also pay taxes that fund the schools, they should have a say too.

Except when this argument is applied to the immigration issue, the same folks say stfu "just because you pay property taxes doesn't mean your kid has priority over the new arrival undocumented ESL kids". So yeah miss me with this. They should not have an equal say as parents with children in FCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the posts, it seems like people are most upset about one extra rep from Woodson that is also in another group and that FairFACTs Matters does not have representation. What are the others?

Read upthread. Do you plan to do something about it? Or just trolling so you can keep defending the indefensible?

I'm just trying to figure out why people are so upset about it and how many of the committee members are controversial. I feel like the school system included quite a few of the different voices in our community and I have been ok with the process thus far.

Sounds disingenuous to me. They are clearly stacking the deck and giving special treatment to some while shutting others out.

Nah. I think you're just scared of change.

Nah, they just stacked the committee with friendly faces who'll rubber stamp what Reid and the School Board want to do.

Change is good, when it's sensible. Big doubts as to whether this process can lead to that. Like maybe they ought to figure out what they are doing with AAP centers, IB, and Academy programs before they start moving kids around like widgets.

+1 I think if they had figured out AAP centers and middle school AAP (either staying as they are or being discontinued but a firm position one way or another), and had been more open about discontinuing IB at some schools, that they could look at the boundary situation with fresher eyes. I would also add to that a willingness to change the renovation queue for the HS’s and say that they will do construction projects at least at McLean and Lewis before moving any more kids into these schools. I think the public’s acceptance of the boundary review would be higher and there wouldn’t be as many conspiracies and distrust.

+1. No one is going to get moved into (only out of) McLean, but it will make it that much harder to get support for moving kids into Annandale or Lewis when the buildings are the oldest in FCPS and received much cheaper renovations than the later renovations of other schools. Having a plan to renovate Annandale, Lewis, and McLean would increase FCPS's credibility and demonstrate they are looking at the bigger picture.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the posts, it seems like people are most upset about one extra rep from Woodson that is also in another group and that FairFACTs Matters does not have representation. What are the others?

Read upthread. Do you plan to do something about it? Or just trolling so you can keep defending the indefensible?

I'm just trying to figure out why people are so upset about it and how many of the committee members are controversial. I feel like the school system included quite a few of the different voices in our community and I have been ok with the process thus far.

Sounds disingenuous to me. They are clearly stacking the deck and giving special treatment to some while shutting others out.

Nah. I think you're just scared of change.

Nah, they just stacked the committee with friendly faces who'll rubber stamp what Reid and the School Board want to do.

Change is good, when it's sensible. Big doubts as to whether this process can lead to that. Like maybe they ought to figure out what they are doing with AAP centers, IB, and Academy programs before they start moving kids around like widgets.

+1 I think if they had figured out AAP centers and middle school AAP (either staying as they are or being discontinued but a firm position one way or another), and had been more open about discontinuing IB at some schools, that they could look at the boundary situation with fresher eyes. I would also add to that a willingness to change the renovation queue for the HS’s and say that they will do construction projects at least at McLean and Lewis before moving any more kids into these schools. I think the public’s acceptance of the boundary review would be higher and there wouldn’t be as many conspiracies and distrust.

+1. No one is going to get moved into (only out of) McLean, but it will make it that much harder to get support for moving kids into Annandale or Lewis when the buildings are the oldest in FCPS and received much cheaper renovations than the later renovations of other schools. Having a plan to renovate Annandale, Lewis, and McLean would increase FCPS's credibility and demonstrate they are looking at the bigger picture.

^ Actually, on reflection, they could move some Marshall kids into McLean and some McLean kids into Marshall (in addition to moving McLean kids into Langley and Falls Church) if they are trying to consolidate and eliminate split feeders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do the people representing each pyramid all have children currently enrolled in FCPS?

No they do not, this was confirmed at the Mount Vernon community meeting when one of the community reps had only older children who had already graduated.

I think this is good. Most adults in Fairfax County do not have children in the schools, but since they are also part of the community and also pay taxes that fund the schools, they should have a say too.

Except when this argument is applied to the immigration issue, the same folks say stfu "just because you pay property taxes doesn't mean your kid has priority over the new arrival undocumented ESL kids". So yeah miss me with this. They should not have an equal say as parents with children in FCPS.

Parents already have an outsized role here, not asking for parity - but it’s nice that some of the committee member represent the majority.
If you don’t include their voices, you will have a problem with community support and a much harder time paying for it all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do the people representing each pyramid all have children currently enrolled in FCPS?

No they do not, this was confirmed at the Mount Vernon community meeting when one of the community reps had only older children who had already graduated.

I think this is good. Most adults in Fairfax County do not have children in the schools, but since they are also part of the community and also pay taxes that fund the schools, they should have a say too.

Except when this argument is applied to the immigration issue, the same folks say stfu "just because you pay property taxes doesn't mean your kid has priority over the new arrival undocumented ESL kids". So yeah miss me with this. They should not have an equal say as parents with children in FCPS.

Parents already have an outsized role here, not asking for parity - but it’s nice that some of the committee member represent the majority.
If you don’t include their voices, you will have a problem with community support and a much harder time paying for it all.

Yeah, I’ve always thought that the key to better schools is getting more people who don’t have any significant stake more involved. 🙄