DA vs ECNL vs everything else

Anonymous

Why are you people so ignorant?

If your child isn't pro level she will not get a pro contract. Nothing to do with who they are associated with.

99.5 percent of kids never make it out of youth pro academy's in Europe. Its competition at the highest level. The higher you go up, the more compressed the space gets.


Why do YOU make so many assumptions? Keep with the conversation. This isn't about whether or not a player can make pro. It's about whether or not the US current system supports a female player doing it without first going to college. The answer is they can't. Almost no player can, and Mal Pugh is significant precisely because it never happens.

In Europe, they can. This is not secret information. I have had this confirmed by multiple coaches. I'm not even blaming WS for this because it isn't aWS problem. It's a systems problem.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

Why are you people so ignorant?

If your child isn't pro level she will not get a pro contract. Nothing to do with who they are associated with.

99.5 percent of kids never make it out of youth pro academy's in Europe. Its competition at the highest level. The higher you go up, the more compressed the space gets.



Why do YOU make so many assumptions? Keep with the conversation. This isn't about whether or not a player can make pro. It's about whether or not the US current system supports a female player doing it without first going to college. The answer is they can't. Almost no player can, and Mal Pugh is significant precisely because it never happens.

In Europe, they can. This is not secret information. I have had this confirmed by multiple coaches. I'm not even

Maybe in a few years when the DA on the girls side ismore established...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's a good question: how many DA players playing for MLS academy teams get recruited by their home DA from non-NT players?

And how many this year from the women's side?

Did WS sign any players from either the VA or MD side to join either the pro team or the reserves?


Are you asking how many MLS DA academy players get called up to first team training who are not already in the youth national team pool? Or how many actually end up with pro offers from the MLS club?


How many can come up through an MLS (or NWSL DA eventually) and then join that DA's pro team? Are these DAs effective in developing pro players?

I will defend NWSLs in saying they are struggling some themselves + the DA for girls is brand new?
Anonymous
FCV will cease to exist in couple years.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Why are you people so ignorant?

If your child isn't pro level she will not get a pro contract. Nothing to do with who they are associated with.

99.5 percent of kids never make it out of youth pro academy's in Europe. Its competition at the highest level. The higher you go up, the more compressed the space gets.


Why do YOU make so many assumptions? Keep with the conversation. This isn't about whether or not a player can make pro. It's about whether or not the US current system supports a female player doing it without first going to college. The answer is they can't. Almost no player can, and Mal Pugh is significant precisely because it never happens.

In Europe, they can. This is not secret information. I have had this confirmed by multiple coaches. I'm not even blaming WS for this because it isn't aWS problem. It's a systems problem.

Because college sports is NADA is Europe.

College sports is an American thing...and it isn't the reason we suck.

Iceland has 200,000 people in the entire country. Northern Virginia has 2 million....Nuff said.
Anonymous
Because college sports is NADA in Europe.

College sports is an American thing...and it isn't the reason we suck.

Iceland has 200,000 people in the entire country. Northern Virginia has 2 million....Nuff said.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:FCV will cease to exist in couple years.


My DD has never played there and has no intentions too. With that said just stop trolling already. It’s very obvious you have a huge grudge against the club and they didn’t put your DDs on the highest teams.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Because college sports is NADA in Europe.

College sports is an American thing...and it isn't the reason we suck.

Iceland has 200,000 people in the entire country. Northern Virginia has 2 million....Nuff said.


Can we just say school sports is an American thing...?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Why are you people so ignorant?

If your child isn't pro level she will not get a pro contract. Nothing to do with who they are associated with.

99.5 percent of kids never make it out of youth pro academy's in Europe. Its competition at the highest level. The higher you go up, the more compressed the space gets.


Why do YOU make so many assumptions? Keep with the conversation. This isn't about whether or not a player can make pro. It's about whether or not the US current system supports a female player doing it without first going to college. The answer is they can't. Almost no player can, and Mal Pugh is significant precisely because it never happens.

In Europe, they can. This is not secret information. I have had this confirmed by multiple coaches. I'm not even blaming WS for this because it isn't aWS problem. It's a systems problem.


Because college sports is NADA is Europe.

College sports is an American thing...and it isn't the reason we suck.

Iceland has 200,000 people in the entire country. Northern Virginia has 2 million....Nuff said.

I watched the FC Girondins Bordeaux team dominate the MD State Cup championship and one of their players was invited to train with the clubs French DI womens team. https://www.fcgirondinsdebordeauxusa.com/girondins-usa-player-called-to-bordeaux-feminines-first-team/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because college sports is NADA in Europe.

College sports is an American thing...and it isn't the reason we suck.

Iceland has 200,000 people in the entire country. Northern Virginia has 2 million....Nuff said.


Can we just say school sports is an American thing...?


Yes. And that they are - in soccer - a setback for any serious player. Every coach I have asked (100% without exception) say that college soccer is a barrier to player development and that it is absolutely better to by pass it. Even though they all acknowledge that in the US, that's just not how it works right now. The general answer is to go to Europe.

And that's what a number of stars (men and women) from the US have done over time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because college sports is NADA in Europe.

College sports is an American thing...and it isn't the reason we suck.

Iceland has 200,000 people in the entire country. Northern Virginia has 2 million....Nuff said.


Can we just say school sports is an American thing...?


Yes. And that they are - in soccer - a setback for any serious player. Every coach I have asked (100% without exception) say that college soccer is a barrier to player development and that it is absolutely better to by pass it. Even though they all acknowledge that in the US, that's just not how it works right now. The general answer is to go to Europe.

And that's what a number of stars (men and women) from the US have done over time.


Bet the coaches you asked were not college coaches...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's a good question: how many DA players playing for MLS academy teams get recruited by their home DA from non-NT players?

And how many this year from the women's side?

Did WS sign any players from either the VA or MD side to join either the pro team or the reserves?


Are you asking how many MLS DA academy players get called up to first team training who are not already in the youth national team pool? Or how many actually end up with pro offers from the MLS club?


How many can come up through an MLS (or NWSL DA eventually) and then join that DA's pro team? Are these DAs effective in developing pro players?

I will defend NWSLs in saying they are struggling some themselves + the DA for girls is brand new?


For the men, some clubs are better about funding their academies and developing homegrown players than others. FC Dallas, NYCFC, NY Redbulls, ATL United and the LA Galaxy all have serious development set ups aimed at producing pros. Others, including DC United, are at least good about providing first team training to promising kids. Most kids who are called up for first team training either are in the youth national pool already or will be called in for a look after their club promotes them. Of course, not all of the young pros come from MLS DA academies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Why are you people so ignorant?

If your child isn't pro level she will not get a pro contract. Nothing to do with who they are associated with.

99.5 percent of kids never make it out of youth pro academy's in Europe. Its competition at the highest level. The higher you go up, the more compressed the space gets.


Why do YOU make so many assumptions? Keep with the conversation. This isn't about whether or not a player can make pro. It's about whether or not the US current system supports a female player doing it without first going to college. The answer is they can't. Almost no player can, and Mal Pugh is significant precisely because it never happens.

In Europe, they can. This is not secret information. I have had this confirmed by multiple coaches. I'm not even blaming WS for this because it isn't aWS problem. It's a systems problem.


Because college sports is NADA is Europe.

College sports is an American thing...and it isn't the reason we suck.

Iceland has 200,000 people in the entire country. Northern Virginia has 2 million....Nuff said.


I watched the FC Girondins Bordeaux team dominate the MD State Cup championship and one of their players was invited to train with the clubs French DI womens team. https://www.fcgirondinsdebordeauxusa.com/girondins-usa-player-called-to-bordeaux-feminines-first-team/

This is so cool! Dani used to play futsal on a mostly boys' Pachuca team out at Champions Field House in Rockville. My son's team played against them a lot when the kids were all 8 or 9. She had dazzling skills even then, and the parents all loved watching her. She scored plenty of goals against those boys! Glad to see she's continued to flourish.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because college sports is NADA in Europe.

College sports is an American thing...and it isn't the reason we suck.

Iceland has 200,000 people in the entire country. Northern Virginia has 2 million....Nuff said.


Can we just say school sports is an American thing...?


Yes. And that they are - in soccer - a setback for any serious player. Every coach I have asked (100% without exception) say that college soccer is a barrier to player development and that it is absolutely better to by pass it. Even though they all acknowledge that in the US, that's just not how it works right now. The general answer is to go to Europe.

And that's what a number of stars (men and women) from the US have done over time.


Bet the coaches you asked were not college coaches...


I'm not sure what your point is. College soccer is an extension of high school; same system and methodology. Now, I will say a D1 program is of a much higher calibre than D3 - obviously. But college soccer is not quality soccer.

Read for example (hope I post the link right):

The 7 biggest flaws of college soccer https://www.foxsports.com/soccer/gallery/the-7-biggest-flaws-of-college-soccer-111816
Is College Soccer Detrimental to US Soccer? https://dailysoccerskills.com/college-soccer-detrimental-to-us-soccer/
Is college soccer too much of a risk for rising U.S. talent? http://www.espn.com/sports/soccer/story/_/id/22869596/2018-world-cup-college-soccer-too-much-risk-rising-us-talent

Why do you think there is all this talk about revamping college soccer? Changing the length of the season to year round and so forth? Because the system is so gosh darn wonderful?
Anonymous
I wonder if it's worth it to take my DD to Europe as a youth. I heard for example France has got some great programs.
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