Plane crash DCA?

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Anonymous wrote:Training flights near a busy civilian airport are reckless. Doing it with NVG is downright negligent. Who ordered that???


Same people who scheduled the 1000000 ones this decade. It’s usually NBD. For some reason this helicopter ride was a big tragedy, hence the investigation.


Nope. NVG near a busy civilian airport with known challenges is not “same as always”.


NVG were not the issue here.


NTSB says they were.


They didn’t say they were “the issue,” just that they believe they were in use

Well they also didn’t say the NVG’s were NOT a factor. They mentioned them and didn’t exclude their involvement, so I think it definitely concerns them.
Anonymous
any updates?
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Anonymous wrote:any updates?


They already released the preliminary report. I doubt we will hear much more until they release the final report which could take a year or more.
Anonymous
Who was that person they dropped off? Why won't they say?
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Anonymous wrote:Who was that person they dropped off? Why won't they say?


I wonder, too.

I noticed a WaPo article that says airplanes heading into DCA have to circle for 20+ minutes anytime Trump is going somewhere in Marine One. They were told it was a "VIP transport" or something like that.

This article reminded me we never did find out how who they dropped off at the CIA.
Anonymous
This alone says a lot. I hope none of them return.

Anonymous
Here is a really good discussion on this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJmvyEEIkEM

Former Army Pilot Provides Inside Information On DCA Potomac River Crash
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Anonymous wrote:Here is a really good discussion on this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJmvyEEIkEM

Former Army Pilot Provides Inside Information On DCA Potomac River Crash


Great video. Guy was stationed at the unit, knows the flight path and crew involved. Said it was a great crew. Most likely helicopter crew did not hear the runway 333 because the last part of the message was cut off. He flew a lot around DC and never saw a landing at 333. When the ATC asked for a second time helicopter slowed down which would have cause it to gain elevation. Also talks about night view goggles not picking up LED lights.

Any question you can think of is cover.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is a really good discussion on this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJmvyEEIkEM

Former Army Pilot Provides Inside Information On DCA Potomac River Crash


Great video. Guy was stationed at the unit, knows the flight path and crew involved. Said it was a great crew. Most likely helicopter crew did not hear the runway 333 because the last part of the message was cut off. He flew a lot around DC and never saw a landing at 333. When the ATC asked for a second time helicopter slowed down which would have cause it to gain elevation. Also talks about night view goggles not picking up LED lights.

Any question you can think of is cover.

Thank you, finally a good analysis
Anonymous
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/ntsb-to-give-update-on-deadly-midair-crash-near-dca-heres-whats-known-so-far/3845340/

NTSB Chairwoman Jennifer Homendy gave the update to reporters Tuesday as the agency continues to investigate the Jan. 29 collision between an American Airlines passenger jet and an Army helicopter. Both plunged into the Potomac River, killing all 67 people aboard.

Homendy said investigators found separation distances between helicopters on what's known as "Route 4" and planes landing on DCA runway 33 were too close and posed an "intolerable risk" to aviation safety.


and

"That data from October 2021 through December 2024, they could have used that information any time to determine that 'we have a trend here and a problem here,' and looked at that route. That didn't occur, which is why we're taking action today. But unfortunately, people lost lives, and loved ones are grieving," Homendy said.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:any updates?


Swept under the rug, as expected. What’d it get, 3 or 4 days in the news?
Anonymous
Another article on the new helicopter ban. So sad it came too late for all those families. But glad they are taking action.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/11/us/politics/dc-plane-crash-ntsb-helicopters.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
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Anonymous wrote:Another article on the new helicopter ban. So sad it came too late for all those families. But glad they are taking action.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/11/us/politics/dc-plane-crash-ntsb-helicopters.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare


Not that people have died and we have written several reports about it, the government is willing to take action. Typical. Nothing proactive. Always reactive.
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Anonymous wrote:Another article on the new helicopter ban. So sad it came too late for all those families. But glad they are taking action.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/11/us/politics/dc-plane-crash-ntsb-helicopters.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare


Not that people have died and we have written several reports about it, the government is willing to take action. Typical. Nothing proactive. Always reactive.
Aviation rules have always been written in blood.
Anonymous
Still some posts here blaming the crash on this woman who, since she’s noticeably still alive, was not the pilot of the helicopter. Good for her for suing.
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