Plane crash DCA?

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Anonymous wrote:This has brought to light some huge failures in pilot training. I think it’s fair to consider is this is related to intentionally filling more women into these roles that were previously closed. Did that alter training standards? Or is it something else that has caused this massive training failure? Is it that they were trained properly but the culture has changed pilots go off script and don’t follow standards because they feel over confident- and that’s become acceptable?

But the pilots of Vietnam could fly their bullet ridden low tech helicopters through gun fire, landing with ease between close trees,
where staying on the ground for seconds longer than absolutely necessary means low survival. I think it’s care training standards have changed as well as acceptable practices when out of flight school

So it crashed bc there are female pilots?

And you are aware that there were helicopter crashes during the Vietnam war, right?

No, I’m saying this is a training failure. It’s needs to looked into what has happened with the training standards. That may or may not have anything to do with more women/changing standards.

Men crash in training flights all the time. Yet I’ve never heard anyone suggest investigating whether we are lowering standards to allow mediocre men to fly.

If they flew their plane into a passenger jet, it absolutely would be questioned why we are allowing unqualified people to fly

You are an ass for assuming the pilot was unqualified to fly. I assume you are a rwnj as this is typical project 2025 garbage. You believe everything is worse because non white non males have jobs that you think only white males should have. Your basic belief is that any human that is not white and a male is less than. You need to go the way of the dinosaur.

It’s not assuming. A pilot that drives has made several known errors, resulting in their helicopter flying directly into a passenger jet, was indeed unqualified

So you are saying that women are less than men and that caused this? We know. We see you.

Poorly trained pilot that happened to be a woman. What is going with training and pilot selection that a pilot making so many errors is flying Blackhawks. I don’t know if being a woman has anything to do with pilot selection- if there is a percentage of women needed in each class- but it should be looked into

I thought the initial review of the flight recorders indicated that the Blackhawk crew wasn’t actually hearing all the words that the ATC was saying? And that the person conducting the training consequently said to head to the east side of the river.

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Training flights near a busy civilian airport are reckless. Doing it with NVG is downright negligent. Who ordered that???

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This is SICKENING.

The FAA has been understaffed since the pandemic, and desperately needs to fill the rosters to keep the flying public safe.

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Anonymous wrote:Training flights near a busy civilian airport are reckless. Doing it with NVG is downright negligent. Who ordered that???

Same people who scheduled the 1000000 ones this decade. It’s usually NBD. For some reason this helicopter ride was a big tragedy, hence the investigation.

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Anonymous wrote:Training flights near a busy civilian airport are reckless. Doing it with NVG is downright negligent. Who ordered that???

Same people who scheduled the 1000000 ones this decade. It’s usually NBD. For some reason this helicopter ride was a big tragedy, hence the investigation.

You clearly know nothing of aviation safety. It was not NBD. It was a series of unacceptable close calls that were ignored

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Anonymous wrote:Training flights near a busy civilian airport are reckless. Doing it with NVG is downright negligent. Who ordered that???

Same people who scheduled the 1000000 ones this decade. It’s usually NBD. For some reason this helicopter ride was a big tragedy, hence the investigation.

Nope. NVG near a busy civilian airport with known challenges is not “same as always”.

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Anonymous wrote:Training flights near a busy civilian airport are reckless. Doing it with NVG is downright negligent. Who ordered that???

Same people who scheduled the 1000000 ones this decade. It’s usually NBD. For some reason this helicopter ride was a big tragedy, hence the investigation.

Nope. NVG near a busy civilian airport with known challenges is not “same as always”.

NVG were not the issue here.

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Anonymous wrote:Training flights near a busy civilian airport are reckless. Doing it with NVG is downright negligent. Who ordered that???

Same people who scheduled the 1000000 ones this decade. It’s usually NBD. For some reason this helicopter ride was a big tragedy, hence the investigation.

1 accident out of how many there the last 10 or 20 years?

Many “near misses” were commercial pilots who heard there was a BH around and flew around another 5-10 mins to miss it. A handful where they saw it 3/5 mins out and said No thank you, and flew around again.

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Anonymous wrote:Training flights near a busy civilian airport are reckless. Doing it with NVG is downright negligent. Who ordered that???

Same people who scheduled the 1000000 ones this decade. It’s usually NBD. For some reason this helicopter ride was a big tragedy, hence the investigation.

Nope. NVG near a busy civilian airport with known challenges is not “same as always”.

NVG were not the issue here.

NTSB says they were.

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Anonymous wrote:Training flights near a busy civilian airport are reckless. Doing it with NVG is downright negligent. Who ordered that???

Same people who scheduled the 1000000 ones this decade. It’s usually NBD. For some reason this helicopter ride was a big tragedy, hence the investigation.

Nope. NVG near a busy civilian airport with known challenges is not “same as always”.

NVG were not the issue here.

NTSB says they were.

They didn’t say they were “the issue,” just that they believe they were in use

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Anonymous wrote:Training flights near a busy civilian airport are reckless. Doing it with NVG is downright negligent. Who ordered that???

Same people who scheduled the 1000000 ones this decade. It’s usually NBD. For some reason this helicopter ride was a big tragedy, hence the investigation.

1 accident out of how many there the last 10 or 20 years?

Many “near misses” were commercial pilots who heard there was a BH around and flew around another 5-10 mins to miss it. A handful where they saw it 3/5 mins out and said No thank you, and flew around again.

1 accident since the existence of military helicopters perhaps. I cannot recall any other helicopter and passenger jet mid air collision, in DC or anywhere for that matter. You can’t blame the routes.

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Anonymous wrote:Training flights near a busy civilian airport are reckless. Doing it with NVG is downright negligent. Who ordered that???

Same people who scheduled the 1000000 ones this decade. It’s usually NBD. For some reason this helicopter ride was a big tragedy, hence the investigation.

1 accident out of how many there the last 10 or 20 years?

Many “near misses” were commercial pilots who heard there was a BH around and flew around another 5-10 mins to miss it. A handful where they saw it 3/5 mins out and said No thank you, and flew around again.

1 accident since the existence of military helicopters perhaps. I cannot recall any other helicopter and passenger jet mid air collision, in DC or anywhere for that matter. You can’t blame the routes.

Agree. They’ve been flying that route weekly if not more for decades. As has runway 33.

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Anonymous wrote:Training flights near a busy civilian airport are reckless. Doing it with NVG is downright negligent. Who ordered that???

Same people who scheduled the 1000000 ones this decade. It’s usually NBD. For some reason this helicopter ride was a big tragedy, hence the investigation.

Nope. NVG near a busy civilian airport with known challenges is not “same as always”.

NVG were not the issue here.

NTSB says they were.

They didn’t say they were “the issue,” just that they believe they were in use

And they should NOT have been. Not near a busy urban civilian airport with city lights everywhere. Reckless. Irresponsible.

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Anonymous wrote:Training flights near a busy civilian airport are reckless. Doing it with NVG is downright negligent. Who ordered that???

Same people who scheduled the 1000000 ones this decade. It’s usually NBD. For some reason this helicopter ride was a big tragedy, hence the investigation.

Nope. NVG near a busy civilian airport with known challenges is not “same as always”.

NVG were not the issue here.

NTSB says they were.

They didn’t say they were “the issue,” just that they believe they were in use

And they should NOT have been. Not near a busy urban civilian airport with city lights everywhere. Reckless. Irresponsible.

Agree, but I think that is only one of a series of incompetencies.

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Anonymous wrote:Training flights near a busy civilian airport are reckless. Doing it with NVG is downright negligent. Who ordered that???

Same people who scheduled the 1000000 ones this decade. It’s usually NBD. For some reason this helicopter ride was a big tragedy, hence the investigation.

Nope. NVG near a busy civilian airport with known challenges is not “same as always”.

NVG were not the issue here.

NTSB says they were.

They didn’t say they were “the issue,” just that they believe they were in use

And they should NOT have been. Not near a busy urban civilian airport with city lights everywhere. Reckless. Irresponsible.

Agree, but I think that is only one of a series of incompetencies.

Whoever said NTSB says they were needs a class in reading comprehension