Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:There was another school shooting on the same day as Kirk's. Those kids get no coverage because the right wing media in this country only cares about right wing sectarian violence.

That school shooter was also steeped in this stuff.

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I’ve never heard of Fuentes but I’m not sure what he has to do with Charlie Kirk.

Looks like Fuentes is anti gun, anti Jewish and apparently gay/incel.

Are we saying Fuentes is related to all this bc the shooter was a follower/fan of Fuentes?

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Will she say the same about a trans or illegal immigrant? They are such hypocrites.

Benefit of the doubt is for white men only.

The quote is from a progressive comic. She was making a joke.

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Anonymous wrote:There was another school shooting on the same day as Kirk's. Those kids get no coverage because the right wing media in this country only cares about right wing sectarian violence.

Agree. Tragic, violent deaths, particularly as a result of gun violence, happen every single day in the US. Somehow none of those others matter. The slaughter of a school child is way more tragic than Kirk's killing, IMO. That murdered child could have grown up to solve the world's problems. Kirk helped create the environment in which he met his end. Kids who are victims of gun violence are just trying to go to school.

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Anonymous wrote:"Three unfired casings found in the chamber of the rifle reportedly used by Robinson included left-wing slogans such as “Hey fascist! Catch!” engraved on the side along with an up arrow, a right arrow and three down arrows."

But yeah, sure, he was a Republican.

He was a left wing nut job and it will all come out. Just stop lying.

These are all video game references, moron.

And do you think he killed CK because he wanted to make a statement about video game references? Or is it possible that he curated the references along a theme? Just spit-balling here but I think there might be a theme. And it's decidedly not a MAGA theme.

The problem right here is that so many of us don't understand this world that these young men are living in online. I can't say you're ignorance is astounding because I don't blame you for not knowing. But I do blame you for is actively not trying to learn and listen. Digging in is so so bad

You don't think any of those things but wanted a passive-aggressive way to avoid responding. I do agree, however, that digging in is so so bad. Just because young men are steeped in the internet doesn't mean that the things they say mean nothing. That's like saying the only thing my words have in common is that they are spoken in English. Just because he speaks Internet doesn't mean he isn't saying something in Internetese. Why is it so hard to accept that he was spouting a series of anti-fascist sentiments, and that this suggests a motive?

I did mean what I said, but you coninue proving my point. I have an 18 year old son who thankfully did not go down this rabbit hole, but some of his friends did. And I teach college freshmen. It is my job to know what these things are so I know what is going on with my son, his peers, and my students.

Like Fuentes and groypers and internet memes and all manner of stuff that is unrelated to this tragedy (Goggins, Liver king, Hustlers University, wojacks).

Do you know what these are? Because I do and that's why at the moment, your premise doesn't hold water. The game is literally played from the perpective of "soldiers" spreading authoritarianism. You are playing to uphold a fascist state.

Are you willing to learn and to see this world, or do you want to bury your head some more.

Listen, I'm not doubting that the scribblings are video game references or questioning your scholarly expertise on such things, but I think you are using the fact that these are video game references as a red herring because you don't want to consider what the scribblings have in common other than being written by someone who speaks in video game references. And, then, having dismissed all the indicators of an anti-fascist motive, your logic jumps to "He was a left wing nut job and it will all come out. Just stop lying." You're dismissing the evidence the shooter actually provided on his motive as the ravings of a gamer and then filling in the gaps with a fiction spun from his demographics to lead to a conclusion that has no basis in the facts.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve never heard of Fuentes but I’m not sure what he has to do with Charlie Kirk.

Looks like Fuentes is anti gun, anti Jewish and apparently gay/incel.

Are we saying Fuentes is related to all this bc the shooter was a follower/fan of Fuentes?

Yes. Look up Groyper (and the shooter dressed as a Groyper meme costume previously). Fuentes was far right and hated Kirk.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve never heard of Fuentes but I’m not sure what he has to do with Charlie Kirk.

Looks like Fuentes is anti gun, anti Jewish and apparently gay/incel.

Are we saying Fuentes is related to all this bc the shooter was a follower/fan of Fuentes?

Yes and Fuentes didn’t like Charlie Kirk

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Will she say the same about a trans or illegal immigrant? They are such hypocrites.

Benefit of the doubt is for white men only.

The quote is from a progressive comic. She was making a joke.

Oh, ok. Sorry, I’m one of the hopelessly out of touch ones.

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My friend said it best- I don’t support what happened to Charlie. Charlie supported what happened to Charlie.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve never heard of Fuentes but I’m not sure what he has to do with Charlie Kirk.

Looks like Fuentes is anti gun, anti Jewish and apparently gay/incel.

Are we saying Fuentes is related to all this bc the shooter was a follower/fan of Fuentes?

Yes. Apparently the killer killed Charlie Kirk because he was a follower of Nick Fuentes. Nick Fuentes hated Charlie Kirk and wanted him gone.

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If it makes you Conservatives feel better, the whole "trans" thing is also based on internet subgroups and social media radicalization.

This guy was very right wing though.

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Anonymous wrote:It's looking like this was an extreme right winger who thought Kirk wasn't right wing enough.

I called it here: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/2370/1291384.page#30770208

According to the bullet scribbling, he was Antifa.

And according to a slew of social media evidence, he was right wing. But you tell yourself whatever need to feel better.

Doesn’t matter what the social media evidence is. People can appear one thing and believe another. The fact that he wrote those slogans on the bullets he loaded to kill Kirk speaks more about his beliefs and intentions.

But you can go ahead and ignore evidence to fit your narrative. Nobody is going to stop you.

His use of the word 'gay' in a derogatory way is limited to right wing.

You don’t think a 22 year old male would use sarcasm and slang, do you? Impossible!

The same goes for the inscriptions MAGA are trying to use to "prove" he was a lefty. round and round we go.

Look at his whole life, family, background. this is right-wing gun nut stuff.

Except that he had become radicalized with left wing ideology in recent years. Yes, he may have been brought up as a Republican and/or conservative, but had strayed far from that.

How horrifying for his parents. Can you imagine his father having to turn in his own son?

This post didn't age well.

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Will she say the same about a trans or illegal immigrant? They are such hypocrites.

This woman is a liberal. She is being ironic and making a point.

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Anonymous wrote:Highly educated, employed, church going (preacher ID'd him) young white male who likes to hunt..... Huh.....how original, how unexpected for a murderer.

Do we want to talk who commits the most murders in this country per capita now?

Sure, let’s have that discussion! You first.

That’s the exact whataboutism that Kirk was pushing when he was shot.

PP asked about an irrelevantly large population. Everybody.

If we narrow it to extremist killings, the Anti-Defamation League has an answer. THE RIGHT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THEM FOR THE PAST 3 YEARS!

"The ADL Center on Extremism’s annual Murder and Extremism report also found that all extremist-related killings of 2024 were connected to right-wing extremism, with eight of the 13 killings involving white supremacists and the remaining five having connections to far-right anti-government extremists. This is the third year in a row that right-wing extremists have been connected to all identified extremist-related killings."

I know . . .the ADL is a pro-palestinian radical leftist group.

Wait, in July of 2024 an in innocent bystander was killed in the attempt on Trump’s life in Pennsylvania.

Either your source of info does not consider that killing an “extremist killing” or they are interpreting it as coming from the “right”.

Either way, yiu cannot possibly take that source seriously.

That attack was right-on-right violence, you've been consuming lies.

It wasn’t. More liberal lies. The Trump shooter donated to blue organizations. People can change within a couple of years. He may have been Republican in HS, but clearly he wasn’t when he tried to kill Trump.

The Charlie Kirk shooter was not maga. He didn’t vote in any election and his parents said they had a dinner where he was filled with hate. He talked about how disliking Charlie Kirk and felt his views were filled with hate. The shooters parents said their son was becoming more political and hateful.

For the dense people ( a lot on here), you can grow up in a red state around guns and not be political or Republican. Lots do democrats own guns. Like the two transgenders who killed children at school.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve never heard of Fuentes but I’m not sure what he has to do with Charlie Kirk.

Looks like Fuentes is anti gun, anti Jewish and apparently gay/incel.

Are we saying Fuentes is related to all this bc the shooter was a follower/fan of Fuentes?

Yes. Apparently the killer killed Charlie Kirk because he was a follower of Nick Fuentes. Nick Fuentes hated Charlie Kirk and wanted him gone.

Source?