Kate's New Picture

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Anonymous wrote:The doctored pics really are the most troubling aspect. They felt the need to get an image out there, but absolutely could not use a real one for whatever reason. This is suspicious. With all this speculation, they would force her to take a real photo if they could. She would likely want to in order to kill all the rumors and protect her children from them. Even if she does have a puffy face, colostomy bag, or whatever. It could be subtle so tgat they wouldn’t have to refer to this chaos - such as mentioning a current event. She could even send her well wishes to the king in light of his cancer diagnosis.

I am really curious why her family is so quiet.If she really was recovering, they would have verified that by now, and everyone would believe them. But if she is in danger, why wouldn’t they speak up?

Exactly. Kate does respect and honor her role. She would help quell the rumors regardless of how she looks as it's now damaging KP's credibility. She's not willing to work with them so something serious is happening outside of health issues

+2 Even if she doesn't like the way she looks right now, she's not so vain that she'd refuse to cooperate in quelling all these conspiracy theories that make the entire RF look bad. She knows her role and has always played it impeccably.

Thank you!! Everyone expect certain fans who are in denial realize how serious this situation has gotten. This isn't like Spare or the racist rumors where Kate can just ignore it. It's one thing when it's the public whose attacking you but now it's press agencies.

It's not about vanity, it's a real knowledge that if she doesn't look beautiful they will TRASH her. So either she is trashed for how she looks, or she's trashed for not showing up. There is no winning situation, but in the long run not being shown looking like shit, bloated from steroids, is the best scenario out of the two. She would never live down those pics, but everyone will forget about this current Kate-gate once she shows up again, looking great.

....That is vanity?? People trash her as it sounds when looks healthy. She already said she's sick. People would be understanding. She's not vain to this level she allow KP's credibility to plummet. Are you even a fan of Kate or just when she's together with William?

+1. If she shows up after Easter looking great, people will trash her for taking 3/4 months off for something the rest of us get 2 weeks or 1 month. She’s already getting trashed for vanity around photogate (if you believe she did that, which you apparently do but the jury is still out).

How is this better? I’m amazed the princess fantasists here think they’re actually defending Kate

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Anonymous wrote:When Kate is back in action most of the people in this thread will be seen as absolute loons.

Amen! I can't believe the nonsense people are spouting with such frequency and absolute conviction!

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Anonymous wrote:When Kate is back in action most of the people in this thread will be seen as absolute loons.

Amen! I can't believe the nonsense people are spouting with such frequency and absolute conviction!

It's a gossip fourm.

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A while back a poster mentioned something about “Russell’s Sign” (scars and callouses on the back of the fingers due to self inducing vomiting), which is in line with the Kate had surgery due to damage from a long standing eating disorder.

So I googled and found several articles over the years about Kate with bandages on her hands:

Article from 2018: https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/reports/a24876357/kate-middleton-plasters-hands/

Here’s another: https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/royal-fans-ask-kate-middleton-8745973

And another from last fall:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1822890/princess-kate-injured-finger-bandage/amp

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Anonymous wrote:Easiest explanation is that William wants out of the marriage and Catherine is not cooperating with his plans. The related stress of the marital strife induced a medical incident for Catherine.

I think this is the core of what's happening right now. It would perfectly explain the communications meltdown happening in KP over the past few weeks + the changing tone toward Catherine in the UK media.

Everything else - Rose Hanbury/cheating, DV, pregnancy/abortion, school choice for George, comas - are unverifiable rumors or silly conspiracy theories. I wish this thread would stay away from this crap, it's dumb noise.

The core issue is that the marriage is on the verge of complete breakdown and Catherine is on the outs. And this is absolutely within the realm of possibility in the highly dysfunctional Windsor family. The Palace was similarly dysfunctional when Diana and Charles were breaking down.

If William does divorce Catherine, I will feel bad for little George - no one will want to marry him. What woman would possibly sign up to be the 3rd generation jilted wife of the future monarch?

-DCUM Nostradamus

I don't have a theory on the reason why or who pulled the plug first but I do agree this is likely the case. it makes sense the boiling point happened around Christmas, she may have gotten sick from the stress, then decided she wasn't working with them anymore.

Catherine does not have an incentive to pull the plug on the marriage. She was built for this and would do what it takes to make it work, especially for the kids. A divorce means she loses a lot of control when it comes to the kids' future, their education, how they are raised, who they associate with, day-to-day living, etc. And, of course, there is the issue of how Catherine provides for herself and security as a commoner. No way in hell Catherine is pushing for a divorce; the math doesn't add up.

The only person incentivized to divorce is William - if he's unhappy, if there's someone else, or just simply is having a petty midlife crisis and wants to be rid of Catherine. And he has to do it before he becomes King. He can't divorce Catherine once she's the Queen, not gonna happen. Charles's cancer speeds up the timeline of William taking over the crown.

My suspicion is that Charles got the bad news about the cancer late last year and William decided to pull the trigger on divorce around the holidays. The dominos then start falling with the December 28 medical incident, the January surgery and hospitalization, etc.

All of this makes sense and, of course, everyone - the BRF, KP, the Middletons, Harry & Meghan, friends, and even the UK media - has gone radio silent because they can't confirm anything without Catherine playing ball. William/KP are now stuck with putting out increasingly frantic statements on their own, without Catherine's participation or authorization. All because she does not want to divorce.

-DCUM Nostradamus

Why would William want to divorce Kate?

To marry Rose, duh! William knows that will endear him to the British Public forever.

No, Kate has been his lifeline. If it wasn’t for the public’s affection for Kate, people would have turned on William. He needs her.

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Anonymous wrote:When Kate is back in action most of the people in this thread will be seen as absolute loons.

Amen! I can't believe the nonsense people are spouting with such frequency and absolute conviction!

QUIT IT PRINCESS FANTASIST!!!!!

You’re ruining free computer time at the asylum for PP above you.

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Anonymous wrote:Easiest explanation is that William wants out of the marriage and Catherine is not cooperating with his plans. The related stress of the marital strife induced a medical incident for Catherine.

I think this is the core of what's happening right now. It would perfectly explain the communications meltdown happening in KP over the past few weeks + the changing tone toward Catherine in the UK media.

Everything else - Rose Hanbury/cheating, DV, pregnancy/abortion, school choice for George, comas - are unverifiable rumors or silly conspiracy theories. I wish this thread would stay away from this crap, it's dumb noise.

The core issue is that the marriage is on the verge of complete breakdown and Catherine is on the outs. And this is absolutely within the realm of possibility in the highly dysfunctional Windsor family. The Palace was similarly dysfunctional when Diana and Charles were breaking down.

If William does divorce Catherine, I will feel bad for little George - no one will want to marry him. What woman would possibly sign up to be the 3rd generation jilted wife of the future monarch?

-DCUM Nostradamus

I don't have a theory on the reason why or who pulled the plug first but I do agree this is likely the case. it makes sense the boiling point happened around Christmas, she may have gotten sick from the stress, then decided she wasn't working with them anymore.

Catherine does not have an incentive to pull the plug on the marriage. She was built for this and would do what it takes to make it work, especially for the kids. A divorce means she loses a lot of control when it comes to the kids' future, their education, how they are raised, who they associate with, day-to-day living, etc. And, of course, there is the issue of how Catherine provides for herself and security as a commoner. No way in hell Catherine is pushing for a divorce; the math doesn't add up.

The only person incentivized to divorce is William - if he's unhappy, if there's someone else, or just simply is having a petty midlife crisis and wants to be rid of Catherine. And he has to do it before he becomes King. He can't divorce Catherine once she's the Queen, not gonna happen. Charles's cancer speeds up the timeline of William taking over the crown.

My suspicion is that Charles got the bad news about the cancer late last year and William decided to pull the trigger on divorce around the holidays. The dominos then start falling with the December 28 medical incident, the January surgery and hospitalization, etc.

All of this makes sense and, of course, everyone - the BRF, KP, the Middletons, Harry & Meghan, friends, and even the UK media - has gone radio silent because they can't confirm anything without Catherine playing ball. William/KP are now stuck with putting out increasingly frantic statements on their own, without Catherine's participation or authorization. All because she does not want to divorce.

-DCUM Nostradamus

Why would William want to divorce Kate?

To marry Rose, duh! William knows that will endear him to the British Public forever.

No, Kate has been his lifeline. If it wasn’t for the public’s affection for Kate, people would have turned on William. He needs her.

I was joking.

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Anonymous wrote:The doctored pics really are the most troubling aspect. They felt the need to get an image out there, but absolutely could not use a real one for whatever reason. This is suspicious. With all this speculation, they would force her to take a real photo if they could. She would likely want to in order to kill all the rumors and protect her children from them. Even if she does have a puffy face, colostomy bag, or whatever. It could be subtle so tgat they wouldn’t have to refer to this chaos - such as mentioning a current event. She could even send her well wishes to the king in light of his cancer diagnosis.

I am really curious why her family is so quiet.If she really was recovering, they would have verified that by now, and everyone would believe them. But if she is in danger, why wouldn’t they speak up?

Exactly. Kate does respect and honor her role. She would help quell the rumors regardless of how she looks as it's now damaging KP's credibility. She's not willing to work with them so something serious is happening outside of health issues

+2 Even if she doesn't like the way she looks right now, she's not so vain that she'd refuse to cooperate in quelling all these conspiracy theories that make the entire RF look bad. She knows her role and has always played it impeccably.

Thank you!! Everyone expect certain fans who are in denial realize how serious this situation has gotten. This isn't like Spare or the racist rumors where Kate can just ignore it. It's one thing when it's the public whose attacking you but now it's press agencies.

It's not about vanity, it's a real knowledge that if she doesn't look beautiful they will TRASH her. So either she is trashed for how she looks, or she's trashed for not showing up. There is no winning situation, but in the long run not being shown looking like shit, bloated from steroids, is the best scenario out of the two. She would never live down those pics, but everyone will forget about this current Kate-gate once she shows up again, looking great.

....That is vanity?? People trash her as it sounds when looks healthy. She already said she's sick. People would be understanding. She's not vain to this level she allow KP's credibility to plummet. Are you even a fan of Kate or just when she's together with William?

+1. If she shows up after Easter looking great, people will trash her for taking 3/4 months off for something the rest of us get 2 weeks or 1 month. She’s already getting trashed for vanity around photogate (if you believe she did that, which you apparently do but the jury is still out).

How is this better? I’m amazed the princess fantasists here think they’re actually defending Kate

No they jury is not out in that as the photo was indeed photoshopped. You're the same poster from the other day going on about "princess fantasists" which doesn't even fit here.

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Anonymous wrote:No sane woman is ever going to marry George.

I am sure he can get an attention-hungry American IG influencer who is a supporting actress on a cable tv show to marry him.

But will she be an amazing humanitarian? Will those watching ask, is she kind? Because it wouldn’t make any sense otherwise.

You “two” think you’re making them look bad but really you’re making me believe every word they said about how hateful, cruel, and obsessed you are. You are obsessed and nasty.

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Anonymous wrote:If she were dying surely they would be handling the pr in a much more positive way toward her, portraying William as a caring husband, etc.?

Exactly. Or even if she was really sick.

She is not and the British press knows.

She is very, very sick from her eating disorder and the British press knows.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. Kate had surgery, is recovering, and William took a photo of her with their kids. She edited it, probably because she didn't like the way she looked.

Why are there conspiracy theories about this?

People have medical issues. They get surgery. They probably don't look their best for awhile afterwards.

What am I missing?

This has already been buried!

Can someone explain to me what people are speculating about? I really don't get it.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13191311/amp/Kate-Middleton-Prince-William-Kensington-photo.html

Cool, so it's exactly what I thought. Woman had surgery, is recovering from surgery, edited a photo of her so she'd look better.
Nothing to see here.

Agree. But the speculation is wildly entertaining.

totally.

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Anonymous wrote:If she were dying surely they would be handling the pr in a much more positive way toward her, portraying William as a caring husband, etc.?

Exactly. Or even if she was really sick.

She is not and the British press knows.

Yup. They can see how she's been treating by William and the family as well. Her delulu fans seem to think she's being attack but I don't see it. People are worried.

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Anonymous wrote:No sane woman is ever going to marry George.

I am sure he can get an attention-hungry American IG influencer who is a supporting actress on a cable tv show to marry him.

But will she be an amazing humanitarian? Will those watching ask, is she kind? Because it wouldn’t make any sense otherwise.

You “two” think you’re making them look bad but really you’re making me believe every word they said about how hateful, cruel, and obsessed you are. You are obsessed and nasty.

No, “I’m” just quick and smart. It bugs you.

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Anonymous wrote:Kate signed up for this. She knew he (any future male child) would be sent to eton. There’s no “we’ll discuss this later” in the royal family. I’m not saying I’d ever want my kid there either but dang, she would be acting desperate and immature if this was all about Eton.

I agree.

In the peasant or even DCUM world, it’s like dating a guy whose family has a beach house and spend every Fourth of July there, marrying, then being mad you’ll be expected at the beach in July.

+1 to be expected they would go to boarding school

I think the fact that she signed up for this suggests the Eton theory is wrong. Like someone 100 pages back stated, she seems like she was build in a lab for this life. No way would she throw such a public fit about something totally expected, no matter how displeased she was about it.

She’s allowed to change her mind.

And she didn’t have a little boy of her own then or realize the potential abuses at a boarding school.

She had issues at boarding school herself. So, not naive.

She has no leverage if he wants her out. The tone of her coverage has markedly changed, not a coincidence. He has stopped referring to her at appearances. He has used his solo letterhead. She was thrown under the bus re: the photo that in all likelihood was a set up. She had nothing to do with it and likely does not have access to their social media accounts. It was a dig at her prior competent/asset image and a dig at the hobby she is well known for. Stories painting her as volatile and throwing things started to run last year, portraying them as "equally bad."

Whether it is about a 3rd party or not remains to be seen. He is not even faking being a doting, protective husband at this point.

If there are differences over the kids going forward, he holds the trump cards, especially as her family's wealth has tanked.

All the cries that they can't get divorced when CHARLES is divorced as silly.

This is my line of thinking. As most marital arguments, it's just a symptom of a bigger issue. In this case they aren't on the same page anymore. They had an easy way out by just admitting it was mistake from their staff office. Putting it on Kate sent a nasty message.

My sense is that Charles was kinder and more deferential to Diana re: the children than William will be (in part due to trauma/damage from Diana's mental illness during his childhood, William is not going to share power this round). It's more than the marriage seeming broken, it's that the "machine" is now tarnishing her image actively, despite it being a time when the opposite would be expected by the public out of basic decency while they are claiming she is quite "ill." In fact, she may be.

It's pretty extraordinary, but if you look back there have been more negative stories placed about her for a year or so, very "both sides" (linked upthread or Google) but now she is "unstable" etc. and "wanting out" when she may be being pushed out. She has no power in the situation that I can see. William's lifelong anger may have found a new target. He seems unwilling to just live apart and fake it for PR anymore.

It seems like William and KP's handling Katw was a big shock for a lot of royal journalists too. As someone (maybe you?) said there's been a noticeable shift in the narrative considering Kate now. They aren't looking out for her and now okay with actively harming her image. Not collaborating might be the only way she's able to hold some control.

Actively harming her image? Look at what the dailymail just published:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13191311/Kate-Middleton-Prince-William-Kensington-photo.html

Someone needs to say it, it has been pretty shocking. Kate Middleton has been 'thrown under a bus' by 'disgraceful' Kensington officials and 'ungentlemanly' Prince William - who let her take blame for Mother's Day photo blunder, Richard Eden tells Palace Confidential

I think it is most likely that the photogate was a set up as part of the media campaign to damage her image, along with the solo letterhead and not mentioning her at events anymore. It makes William look callous and cold, but they must not care or feel a plot twist yet to come will vindicate his approach?

I honestly can't believe they turned on her so quickly.
She's not collaborating for whatever reason so that's it? She's not earth working through whatever issue is at hand? I am happy so many are calling this out.

Just last fall, theDaily Mail was routinely mocked for its endless, constant Saint Kate puff pieces. Then for a while since December they did almost nothing, not even “friends say she’s doing well and grateful for the support” or re-running old pieces on her clothes. Now the DM is calling KP disgraceful. Wonder what the narrative is there….

You have to wonder who is controlling the narrative. Someone has told the daily mail to switch sides

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Anonymous wrote:The doctored pics really are the most troubling aspect. They felt the need to get an image out there, but absolutely could not use a real one for whatever reason. This is suspicious. With all this speculation, they would force her to take a real photo if they could. She would likely want to in order to kill all the rumors and protect her children from them. Even if she does have a puffy face, colostomy bag, or whatever. It could be subtle so tgat they wouldn’t have to refer to this chaos - such as mentioning a current event. She could even send her well wishes to the king in light of his cancer diagnosis.

I am really curious why her family is so quiet.If she really was recovering, they would have verified that by now, and everyone would believe them. But if she is in danger, why wouldn’t they speak up?

Exactly. Kate does respect and honor her role. She would help quell the rumors regardless of how she looks as it's now damaging KP's credibility. She's not willing to work with them so something serious is happening outside of health issues

+2 Even if she doesn't like the way she looks right now, she's not so vain that she'd refuse to cooperate in quelling all these conspiracy theories that make the entire RF look bad. She knows her role and has always played it impeccably.

Thank you!! Everyone expect certain fans who are in denial realize how serious this situation has gotten. This isn't like Spare or the racist rumors where Kate can just ignore it. It's one thing when it's the public whose attacking you but now it's press agencies.

It's not about vanity, it's a real knowledge that if she doesn't look beautiful they will TRASH her. So either she is trashed for how she looks, or she's trashed for not showing up. There is no winning situation, but in the long run not being shown looking like shit, bloated from steroids, is the best scenario out of the two. She would never live down those pics, but everyone will forget about this current Kate-gate once she shows up again, looking great.

....That is vanity?? People trash her as it sounds when looks healthy. She already said she's sick. People would be understanding. She's not vain to this level she allow KP's credibility to plummet. Are you even a fan of Kate or just when she's together with William?

+1. If she shows up after Easter looking great, people will trash her for taking 3/4 months off for something the rest of us get 2 weeks or 1 month. She’s already getting trashed for vanity around photogate (if you believe she did that, which you apparently do but the jury is still out).

How is this better? I’m amazed the princess fantasists here think they’re actually defending Kate

No they jury is not out in that as the photo was indeed photoshopped. You're the same poster from the other day going on about "princess fantasists" which doesn't even fit here.

Not PP, but I don’t believe for a second that Kate built that photo from scratch ir that she made that statement. The KP coms people did it and then blamed it on Kate when they got caught