Fairfax County Double Murder

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Anonymous wrote:For me, more than that….
She left at 7:30…. What time does the kid wake up? What zoo is that that opens so early?

Specially in February. Why would you go on an outdoor activity early am in cold February?

I remember that day was extremely warm. I was sitting out on my patio drinking coffee (which I never would have done in freezing temperatures)

Also, if they were going to the zoo in DC, that would take at least 1 hour to 90 minutes to get to from Herndon.

What? It's a 35 mins drive to the zoo from Herndon.

Not at 7:30am on a weekday it isn’t.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you guys really believe that Christine, a pediatric nurse, would consent to sex with a stranger inside her own home and agree to knife play??? Not to mention the fact that she had a bleeding disorder. She posts about that on Instagram.

Being a pediatric nurse doesn’t mean you don’t have sexual preferences. Your kids kindergarten teacher might also have sexual fetishes. Hate to break it to you.

That is true, but you would not concede to knife play when you have a blood clotting disorder AND you are a nurse and understand the severity of what could happen if you were cut in the wrong place, too deeply, etc.

I mean- first of all, I’d never met her, so I hate to speculate. But for some - many?- people with fetishes, the danger is part of the appeal and the thrill. That’s why some women are into BDSM, or pretending to be raped, etc etc etc. So no, I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility that someone with a bleeding disorder would want to role play getting (pretend) cut during sex.

And please- to any of her friends or family- I know nothing about her personally. This comment is meant to be more general.

She wasn’t just a mom, she wasn’t “just a pediatric nurse”, at one point she was helping children victims of abuse. Her profile, especially with her medical complications, Do not fit someone looking for knife and blood play. “I mean”, I’m not sure why you seem so vested in trying to make her fit that profile.

Exactly right. Thank you. She was a rape ADVOCATE.

You guys are so naive. Tons of rape advocates were rape victims themselves. And tons of rape victims want to engage in rape play during sex as a way of working through their trauma. See: literally every victim of child abuse who tries to do inappropriate things with other kids at recess or sleepovers.

She was obviously murdered by her husband. But the most obvious solution for “how did JR get there and stay there for 15 plus minutes without either CB or JR calling the cops???” is because CB was fine with JR being there. Not BB using some bizarre voice changing technology and calling him and telling him to wait in the hallway and hoping his wife was a) naked and b) wasn’t going to come downstairs for any reason.

Please STFU.

You're the one turning this into an Agatha Christie novel with your out of this universe speculations about how they two of them were in the bedroom together for so long without anyone calling 911. It doesn't take away from what happened to her. I fully believe her husband orchestrated JR being there , in order to murder her. But the scenario that makes the most sense, by far, is that CB knew JR was coming over. It also makes sense as to why she'd tell AP to take her daughter to the zoo when the sun was barely up in February. Because she knew JR was coming over. What she did NOT know, clearly, was that her husband was going to murder her and JR and try to pin it on JR.

The idea that JR was meant to go upstairs with BB as some are specilate here doesn’t make sense bc then, BB wouldn’t say it was an intruder that he found stabbing his wife.

A man who plotted a lure and ruse to murder his wife and ordered up a fall guy from a fetish site woudn't lie? Are kids posting here? Any arrangements with JR to wait in foyer, etc. for cuck scene to "start" could have been arranged in call with BB pretending to be CB or in messaging that LE has referred to. Likely all planned ahead, not day of.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you guys really believe that Christine, a pediatric nurse, would consent to sex with a stranger inside her own home and agree to knife play??? Not to mention the fact that she had a bleeding disorder. She posts about that on Instagram.

Being a pediatric nurse doesn’t mean you don’t have sexual preferences. Your kids kindergarten teacher might also have sexual fetishes. Hate to break it to you.

I hate to break it to you but there’s no way Christine would consent to a stranger cutting her throat. That’s way beyond the norm of “sexual preferences.” Wake up.

You’re being obtuse. I’m saying that there is absolutely a possibility that she was ok with JR coming over with a knife for sex. People have weird sex lives sometimes. Obviously no one is saying she wanted to get her throat cut.

You’re an ignoramus for even suggesting this about a woman you didn’t know.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you guys really believe that Christine, a pediatric nurse, would consent to sex with a stranger inside her own home and agree to knife play??? Not to mention the fact that she had a bleeding disorder. She posts about that on Instagram.

Being a pediatric nurse doesn’t mean you don’t have sexual preferences. Your kids kindergarten teacher might also have sexual fetishes. Hate to break it to you.

That is true, but you would not concede to knife play when you have a blood clotting disorder AND you are a nurse and understand the severity of what could happen if you were cut in the wrong place, too deeply, etc.

I mean- first of all, I’d never met her, so I hate to speculate. But for some - many?- people with fetishes, the danger is part of the appeal and the thrill. That’s why some women are into BDSM, or pretending to be raped, etc etc etc. So no, I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility that someone with a bleeding disorder would want to role play getting (pretend) cut during sex.

And please- to any of her friends or family- I know nothing about her personally. This comment is meant to be more general.

She wasn’t just a mom, she wasn’t “just a pediatric nurse”, at one point she was helping children victims of abuse. Her profile, especially with her medical complications, Do not fit someone looking for knife and blood play. “I mean”, I’m not sure why you seem so vested in trying to make her fit that profile.

Exactly right. Thank you. She was a rape ADVOCATE.

You guys are so naive. Tons of rape advocates were rape victims themselves. And tons of rape victims want to engage in rape play during sex as a way of working through their trauma. See: literally every victim of child abuse who tries to do inappropriate things with other kids at recess or sleepovers.

She was obviously murdered by her husband. But the most obvious solution for “how did JR get there and stay there for 15 plus minutes without either CB or JR calling the cops???” is because CB was fine with JR being there. Not BB using some bizarre voice changing technology and calling him and telling him to wait in the hallway and hoping his wife was a) naked and b) wasn’t going to come downstairs for any reason.

Please STFU.

You're the one turning this into an Agatha Christie novel with your out of this universe speculations about how they two of them were in the bedroom together for so long without anyone calling 911. It doesn't take away from what happened to her. I fully believe her husband orchestrated JR being there , in order to murder her. But the scenario that makes the most sense, by far, is that CB knew JR was coming over. It also makes sense as to why she'd tell AP to take her daughter to the zoo when the sun was barely up in February. Because she knew JR was coming over. What she did NOT know, clearly, was that her husband was going to murder her and JR and try to pin it on JR.

The idea that JR was meant to go upstairs with BB as some are specilate here doesn’t make sense bc then, BB wouldn’t say it was an intruder that he found stabbing his wife.

He’d absolutely set himself up if he would text JR “wait for my husband to come home”.

I meant that my idea is that the whole messaging JR on the fetish site about the cuck scene or whatever with the knife, was true. That BB convinced his wife to do this for him. So JR got there, went upstairs, ripped the PJs like theyd planned out, he had a knife, etc etc and then BB came upstairs- as planned!- but actually just killed them both. And I bet AP and the girl weren't even supposed to be there for it. Just my thoughts.

He took AP to the shooting range more than once and bought a 2nd gun. Of course they were meant to be there. Kid was likely locked in AP suite. All planned down to details.

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This guy has done some good vids re: this case. It's in Portuguese so set captions to English.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vmf9jDaYSU

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Has anyone seen anything re: possible life insurance payouts? I assume she had LI through work, wondering if that would pay quickly or delay in such circumstances? Also wondering if BB had a policy on CB?

Anyone know what her salary would have been as a nurse? I assume higher than his. His last reported IRS salary before becoming a criminal investigator was pretty low.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you guys really believe that Christine, a pediatric nurse, would consent to sex with a stranger inside her own home and agree to knife play??? Not to mention the fact that she had a bleeding disorder. She posts about that on Instagram.

Being a pediatric nurse doesn’t mean you don’t have sexual preferences. Your kids kindergarten teacher might also have sexual fetishes. Hate to break it to you.

I hate to break it to you but there’s no way Christine would consent to a stranger cutting her throat. That’s way beyond the norm of “sexual preferences.” Wake up.

You’re being obtuse. I’m saying that there is absolutely a possibility that she was ok with JR coming over with a knife for sex. People have weird sex lives sometimes. Obviously no one is saying she wanted to get her throat cut.

You’re an ignoramus for even suggesting this about a woman you didn’t know.

I’m not suggesting it, I’m saying the easiest solution is usually the correct one. And that solution requires the least effort on anyone’s part. It might be wrong. But it’s certainly the most simple. Even law enforcement was saying JR was known to both of them.

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Anonymous wrote:That’s why I thought BB stabbed her first thing. She could be sleeping and naked. Then he had JR coming in the house and shot him as soon as he entered the room.

But the timing on that doesn’t lineup. There was a lag in time between JR entering the house, the Au Pair coming back to see his car there, calling both Christine and Brendan separately, and Brendan having to put down his sausage egg McMuffin and drive home and enter the house. You’re saying JR went to the house and all those minutes transpired and he never called 911 with a bleeding woman he was supposed to be banging? Sorry, but that just doesn’t add up.

We have not heard a timeline of arrivals backed up by evidence, we just know the "story" that AP and BB had planned.

IMO makes most sense that CB was clothed and drugged and JR was either ambushed by BB and shot or expected him as part of the cuck scene and was shot. BB is most likely to have torn the pjs off, perhaps as JR lay dying a few feet away. He had suggested it while pretending to be CB. W/o evidence to corroborte, take every piece of AP's story with a mine of salt.

DP adding that JRs friend posted on Reddit that JR told him he was meeting with a couple- not just a woman. The friend posted this with the day or of after the murder- way before we knew about fet life account, etc.

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The amount of crazies on this thread must be a record. All the insane imaginary scenarios, especially the victim blaming ones, make me think this thread has been taken over by the kind of women who pen pal men in jail, fall in love with them and get married, to men who are serving life.

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of crazies on this thread must be a record. All the insane imaginary scenarios, especially the victim blaming ones, make me think this thread has been taken over by the kind of women who pen pal men in jail, fall in love with them and get married, to men who are serving life.

If you’re referring to me- I am not victim blaming anyone!!! What?? I’m saying that the easiest, most logical solution is usually the correct one. Not always, but usually. And the easiest most logical solution to “why was JR there in her bedroom?” And “why did he say he was meeting a couple for a sex meet up?” And “why did she have a fet life account?” Is because these things were true. It doesn’t make her any less of a victim unless you think women having sex lives is somehow bad. I could be totally wrong of course. But you guys keep twisting yourselves into pretzels wanting to make her out to be some sort of Virgin Mary pediatric nurse but she was a real person.

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^^for what it’s worth I also believe that the entire sex meet up was BBs idea with the explicit intent to murder her and frame JR for it. If that helps you think I’m not a troll. But I think the most logical solution is that CB was aware of the sex meet up situation , but (obviously) not aware of the plot to murder both of them. And no I am not interested in being pen pals with wife murderers in prison , what the F?

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of crazies on this thread must be a record. All the insane imaginary scenarios, especially the victim blaming ones, make me think this thread has been taken over by the kind of women who pen pal men in jail, fall in love with them and get married, to men who are serving life.

If you’re referring to me- I am not victim blaming anyone!!! What?? I’m saying that the easiest, most logical solution is usually the correct one. Not always, but usually. And the easiest most logical solution to “why was JR there in her bedroom?” And “why did he say he was meeting a couple for a sex meet up?” And “why did she have a fet life account?” Is because these things were true. It doesn’t make her any less of a victim unless you think women having sex lives is somehow bad. I could be totally wrong of course. But you guys keep twisting yourselves into pretzels wanting to make her out to be some sort of Virgin Mary pediatric nurse but she was a real person.

NP but it really sounds like BB or AP or both set up the account. Account shows up within hours of her texting BB a photo of her in a bathing suit and the police accounts indicate the phrasing used didn't match how she wrote. I know that last part could be interpreted to mean she wrote salaciously and nobody thinks she would do that, but my impression is that it has more to do with grammar, phrasing, etc.

In the context of that info, BB and the au pair having an affair, then a bizarre death scenario, a setup seems the easiest and most logical answer

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of crazies on this thread must be a record. All the insane imaginary scenarios, especially the victim blaming ones, make me think this thread has been taken over by the kind of women who pen pal men in jail, fall in love with them and get married, to men who are serving life.

If you’re referring to me- I am not victim blaming anyone!!! What?? I’m saying that the easiest, most logical solution is usually the correct one. Not always, but usually. And the easiest most logical solution to “why was JR there in her bedroom?” And “why did he say he was meeting a couple for a sex meet up?” And “why did she have a fet life account?” Is because these things were true. It doesn’t make her any less of a victim unless you think women having sex lives is somehow bad. I could be totally wrong of course. But you guys keep twisting yourselves into pretzels wanting to make her out to be some sort of Virgin Mary pediatric nurse but she was a real person.

NP but it really sounds like BB or AP or both set up the account. Account shows up within hours of her texting BB a photo of her in a bathing suit and the police accounts indicate the phrasing used didn't match how she wrote. I know that last part could be interpreted to mean she wrote salaciously and nobody thinks she would do that, but my impression is that it has more to do with grammar, phrasing, etc.

In the context of that info, BB and the au pair having an affair, then a bizarre death scenario, a setup seems the easiest and most logical answer

DP to add and then add in both BB and AP getting new phones right before the murders. Come on, this was a setup

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of crazies on this thread must be a record. All the insane imaginary scenarios, especially the victim blaming ones, make me think this thread has been taken over by the kind of women who pen pal men in jail, fall in love with them and get married, to men who are serving life.

If you’re referring to me- I am not victim blaming anyone!!! What?? I’m saying that the easiest, most logical solution is usually the correct one. Not always, but usually. And the easiest most logical solution to “why was JR there in her bedroom?” And “why did he say he was meeting a couple for a sex meet up?” And “why did she have a fet life account?” Is because these things were true. It doesn’t make her any less of a victim unless you think women having sex lives is somehow bad. I could be totally wrong of course. But you guys keep twisting yourselves into pretzels wanting to make her out to be some sort of Virgin Mary pediatric nurse but she was a real person.

NP but it really sounds like BB or AP or both set up the account. Account shows up within hours of her texting BB a photo of her in a bathing suit and the police accounts indicate the phrasing used didn't match how she wrote. I know that last part could be interpreted to mean she wrote salaciously and nobody thinks she would do that, but my impression is that it has more to do with grammar, phrasing, etc.

In the context of that info, BB and the au pair having an affair, then a bizarre death scenario, a setup seems the easiest and most logical answer

DP to add and then add in both BB and AP getting new phones right before the murders. Come on, this was a setup

Oh it was absolutely a set up but I’m just saying Christine might have known he was coming over, that’s all. Otherwise she would have called 911 when he came in with a knife and he would have been like, oh Sh**! And reassured her

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of crazies on this thread must be a record. All the insane imaginary scenarios, especially the victim blaming ones, make me think this thread has been taken over by the kind of women who pen pal men in jail, fall in love with them and get married, to men who are serving life.

If you’re referring to me- I am not victim blaming anyone!!! What?? I’m saying that the easiest, most logical solution is usually the correct one. Not always, but usually. And the easiest most logical solution to “why was JR there in her bedroom?” And “why did he say he was meeting a couple for a sex meet up?” And “why did she have a fet life account?” Is because these things were true. It doesn’t make her any less of a victim unless you think women having sex lives is somehow bad. I could be totally wrong of course. But you guys keep twisting yourselves into pretzels wanting to make her out to be some sort of Virgin Mary pediatric nurse but she was a real person.

NP but it really sounds like BB or AP or both set up the account. Account shows up within hours of her texting BB a photo of her in a bathing suit and the police accounts indicate the phrasing used didn't match how she wrote. I know that last part could be interpreted to mean she wrote salaciously and nobody thinks she would do that, but my impression is that it has more to do with grammar, phrasing, etc.

In the context of that info, BB and the au pair having an affair, then a bizarre death scenario, a setup seems the easiest and most logical answer

DP to add and then add in both BB and AP getting new phones right before the murders. Come on, this was a setup

Yeah, this seems to me the most likely scenario given the changing phones etc. Although there’s an outside chance she did agree to it — BB certainly wouldn’t be the first guy to pressure his wife into agreeing to some weird sex thing as a present for his birthday, particularly if she thought this was a “save the marriage” scenario.

Some PP asked why BB would need to impersonate CB on a call to JR if iJR was told it was a cuck scenario — it would not surprise me at all if the norm in that community is to request advance communication with both parties so they avoid a situation where they show up and one party has not consented to it. I don’t know anyone that does this stuff but my impression is that consent is a huge thing in this community so that they avoid misunderstandings that can turn violent or potential criminal charges arising out of misunderstandings.

I also think the au pair hasn’t flipped on BB because she’s so far into it that she’ll end up with a life sentence (or at least 20 years) anyway so she’s rolling the dice that they can’t meet the reasonable doubt standard. He was somewhat smart to make her take the kill shot. I’m sure he manipulated the hell out of her but she looks very very guilty of pre planning this with him.