FCPS TJ Class of 2024 Press Release - Buried; AA Admits "TS" to Mention

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As an African American student that currently attends TJHSST (rare I know) I don't necessarily agree with everything said. I do believe that there SHOULD be some sort of cut off from certain races that attend TJHSST. After administering a poll to my classmates, the majority of the black students there said that once they get into TJ they feel comfortable there. While the work is tough, they don't feel discriminated against by any of their peers. With that being said, I feel as if not enough African American students are getting a chance to attend TJ because they're being overshadowed by predominantly Asian students. This starts from the bottom and works it way up and African American people have been at the bottom economically for generations now. So for the people that choose who gets accepted into the school, it's unfair for African American students to be compared to Asian students in the admissions process, when clearly, they'll lose out everytime. And for the fact that's it is less than 10 just shows where we are at this point and what we need to improve on. Thanks!

I, too am an African American, and I graduated from TJ 11 years ago. I've been following this discussion and trying to parse out in my own head how I feel about all of this. It's a complicated matter with no simple solution. It definitely hurts to see the minuscule AA admission rate, and I would like to see it higher. At the same time, I don't think the solution is as simple as some of these posts suggest. As I understand it, admissions are race blind (hopefully that's true), which leads me to believe the admitted students have a certain level of ability regardless of race. If certain students who don't fall within that level of ability are admitted on account of racial equity (or any other reason for that matter), that could be doing a disservice to those kids because they might not be able to succeed in that environment. I believe this is a problem that needs to be addressed starting at the preschool level. Kids who succeed at TJ don't just suddenly become capable at that level in 8th grade when it's time to apply to TJ. It takes years of development, encouragement, modeling, mentorship, AAP and peer culture to get someone in the position to succeed.

Thank you for your input. I wholeheartedly agree. Young black children should be offered academic enrichment in the younger years. You cannot just admit students based on race in 8th grade. Academic enrichment and support starts in the home regardless of race. In our old Alexandria neighborhood, many African immigrants sent their children to Kumon. There were actually more Africans than Asians at the specific kumon center that we tried. At my son’s AAP center, many AAP students were black.

From my limited experience, the black families with a strong father figure seem to have better academic results. The black families had parents with hard work ethic that pushed the students. I saw many of the involved black parents at school events and meetings. I believe 75% of African American families are headed by a single parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As an African American student that currently attends TJHSST (rare I know) I don't necessarily agree with everything said. I do believe that there SHOULD be some sort of cut off from certain races that attend TJHSST. After administering a poll to my classmates, the majority of the black students there said that once they get into TJ they feel comfortable there. While the work is tough, they don't feel discriminated against by any of their peers. With that being said, I feel as if not enough African American students are getting a chance to attend TJ because they're being overshadowed by predominantly Asian students. This starts from the bottom and works it way up and African American people have been at the bottom economically for generations now. So for the people that choose who gets accepted into the school, it's unfair for African American students to be compared to Asian students in the admissions process, when clearly, they'll lose out everytime. And for the fact that's it is less than 10 just shows where we are at this point and what we need to improve on. Thanks!

Why do you think AA students lose out to Asian? Our child attended Kumon for several years, which helped them to do well at school and on the TJ admission test. We paid $110-120 per month for Kumon - not that much in my view. Wouldn’t a typical FCPS AA family be able to afford that?

Stop trolling and pretending to be an Asian parent. You're trying to label TJ students as preppers. Kumon is actually not helpful at all to TJ admission and competitive work.

Aren't they? ??

No. At least not more than the white kids. When white people prep (or they call it enrich), nobody labels them anything. This is the true (white) privilege. This is the injustice everyone should fight against, not Asians getting some good results after hard work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would bet you most TJ parents pretend to be liberal on almost every topic, but when it comes to any criticisms of how TJ currently is operating they are quick to call people “commies” and worse.

The situation there is definitely getting more attention, though. See below. I honestly think they know change is coming and they’re just venting. This forum should just be renamed TJ Parent Vents.

https://www.thevablacklifestylemagazine.com/post/not-one-black-student-was-accepted-into-virginia-s-top-high-school-s-class-of-2024

(BTW, apparently the real number is 6, not 0). A School Board member shared that even if FCPS thinks she wasn’t supposed to. Still pathetic and offensive.

that's only because those criticisms were derived from an agenda to enforce communism (equal outcome) in this country. It is evil and self-serving. Nobody sane would support that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
No. At least not more than the white kids. When white people prep (or they call it enrich), nobody labels them anything. This is the true (white) privilege. This is the injustice everyone should fight against, not Asians getting some good results after hard work.

Let me get this right. The real injustice here is that whitey preps and is not labeled as such, but Asians prep and that is meritorious. I don't know who preps more and frankly I don't think that is knowable, but your comment is inane I am in the no-prep camp, but be free to piss your money and kids' childhoods away. That's your choice.
The problem with DCUM is idiot privilege and no one is embarrassed to demonstrate theirs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
No. At least not more than the white kids. When white people prep (or they call it enrich), nobody labels them anything. This is the true (white) privilege. This is the injustice everyone should fight against, not Asians getting some good results after hard work.

Let me get this right. The real injustice here is that whitey preps and is not labeled as such, but Asians prep and that is meritorious. I don't know who preps more and frankly I don't think that is knowable, but your comment is inane I am in the no-prep camp, but be free to piss your money and kids' childhoods away. That's your choice.
The problem with DCUM is idiot privilege and no one is embarrassed to demonstrate theirs.

I was only pointing out the hypocrisy here. We don’t prep either (and we don’t need to). DS is simply passionate and talented in STEM. He absolutely enjoys it like many kids at TJ. If not doing sports 24/7 is gonna piss their childhood away, so be it.

[Anonymous]

The reality is that most white and Asian kids who end up at TJ prep, in some cases intensely, aided by their parents' financial resources (recall that TJ is about 2% FARMS).

There are a handful of posters who come on here constantly to let us know their kids didn't prep at all. This barely counts as a "humblebrag," and it's a distraction from the bigger issues around TJ. It's not going to stop TJ from getting the long-delayed scrutiny that it so richly (no pun intended) deserves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reality is that most white and Asian kids who end up at TJ prep, in some cases intensely, aided by their parents' financial resources (recall that TJ is about 2% FARMS).

There are a handful of posters who come on here constantly to let us know their kids didn't prep at all. This barely counts as a "humblebrag," and it's a distraction from the bigger issues around TJ. It's not going to stop TJ from getting the long-delayed scrutiny that it so richly (no pun intended) deserves.

Just because people have financial resources, doesn't mean they prepped. Get your logic straight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality is that most white and Asian kids who end up at TJ prep, in some cases intensely, aided by their parents' financial resources (recall that TJ is about 2% FARMS).

There are a handful of posters who come on here constantly to let us know their kids didn't prep at all. This barely counts as a "humblebrag," and it's a distraction from the bigger issues around TJ. It's not going to stop TJ from getting the long-delayed scrutiny that it so richly (no pun intended) deserves.

Just because people have financial resources, doesn't mean they prepped. Get your logic straight.

I'm comfortable with my facts and logic. You should spend more time worrying about your ethics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reality is that most white and Asian kids who end up at TJ prep, in some cases intensely, aided by their parents' financial resources (recall that TJ is about 2% FARMS).

There are a handful of posters who come on here constantly to let us know their kids didn't prep at all. This barely counts as a "humblebrag," and it's a distraction from the bigger issues around TJ. It's not going to stop TJ from getting the long-delayed scrutiny that it so richly (no pun intended) deserves.

Why should we believe your opinion on prep. You cite nothing, don’t appear to have personal knowledge of the school and discount without basis posters who have said their kids didn’t prep and love TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reality is that most white and Asian kids who end up at TJ prep, in some cases intensely, aided by their parents' financial resources (recall that TJ is about 2% FARMS).

There are a handful of posters who come on here constantly to let us know their kids didn't prep at all. This barely counts as a "humblebrag," and it's a distraction from the bigger issues around TJ. It's not going to stop TJ from getting the long-delayed scrutiny that it so richly (no pun intended) deserves.

Bring it on! If you can, that is.. or are you just all bark and no bite?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
No. At least not more than the white kids. When white people prep (or they call it enrich), nobody labels them anything. This is the true (white) privilege. This is the injustice everyone should fight against, not Asians getting some good results after hard work.

Let me get this right. The real injustice here is that whitey preps and is not labeled as such, but Asians prep and that is meritorious. I don't know who preps more and frankly I don't think that is knowable, but your comment is inane I am in the no-prep camp, but be free to piss your money and kids' childhoods away. That's your choice.
The problem with DCUM is idiot privilege and no one is embarrassed to demonstrate theirs.

Those who want to prep, please do. Those that don't want to, don't. Do so without worrying that an idiot might judge you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality is that most white and Asian kids who end up at TJ prep, in some cases intensely, aided by their parents' financial resources (recall that TJ is about 2% FARMS).

There are a handful of posters who come on here constantly to let us know their kids didn't prep at all. This barely counts as a "humblebrag," and it's a distraction from the bigger issues around TJ. It's not going to stop TJ from getting the long-delayed scrutiny that it so richly (no pun intended) deserves.

Just because people have financial resources, doesn't mean they prepped. Get your logic straight.

I'm comfortable with my facts and logic. You should spend more time worrying about your ethics.

I'm stunned how shameless you are. You have the guts to talk ethics to a group of people who are the most law abiding, hard working and actually doing a lot to really help the community? What positive things have you people done to this country? HINT: crying victim because your grand-grand-grand-grand father was a slave isn't one of them.

[Anonymous]

You might almost think this discrimination has been going on for a while.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/thomas-jefferson-hs-fairfax-schools-shut-out-blacks-and-latinos-complaint-alleges/2012/07/23/gJQAPOIO5W_story.html (2012)

https://www.washingtonian.com/2017/04/26/is-the-no-1-high-school-in-america-thomas-jefferson-fairfax-discrimination/ (2017)

http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/news/2018/apr/18/admissions-tj-continue-exclude-poor-and-black-stud/ (2018)

https://annandaleva.blogspot.com/2020/06/zero-black-students-accept-to-tj.html (2020)

The only difference is that it looks like FCPS - or others, if FCPS won't step up to the plate - is going to adresss it. Finally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You might almost think this discrimination has been going on for a while.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/thomas-jefferson-hs-fairfax-schools-shut-out-blacks-and-latinos-complaint-alleges/2012/07/23/gJQAPOIO5W_story.html (2012)

https://www.washingtonian.com/2017/04/26/is-the-no-1-high-school-in-america-thomas-jefferson-fairfax-discrimination/ (2017)

http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/news/2018/apr/18/admissions-tj-continue-exclude-poor-and-black-stud/ (2018)

https://annandaleva.blogspot.com/2020/06/zero-black-students-accept-to-tj.html (2020)

The only difference is that it looks like FCPS - or others, if FCPS won't step up to the plate - is going to adresss it. Finally.

Stop repeating yourself. You haven't been able to tell us exactly how TJ discriminated black people as the admission process is color blind. I'm still all ears.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality is that most white and Asian kids who end up at TJ prep, in some cases intensely, aided by their parents' financial resources (recall that TJ is about 2% FARMS).

There are a handful of posters who come on here constantly to let us know their kids didn't prep at all. This barely counts as a "humblebrag," and it's a distraction from the bigger issues around TJ. It's not going to stop TJ from getting the long-delayed scrutiny that it so richly (no pun intended) deserves.

Just because people have financial resources, doesn't mean they prepped. Get your logic straight.

I'm comfortable with my facts and logic. You should spend more time worrying about your ethics.

I'm stunned how shameless you are. You have the guts to talk ethics to a group of people who are the most law abiding, hard working and actually doing a lot to really help the community? What positive things have you people done to this country? HINT: crying victim because your grand-grand-grand-grand father was a slave isn't one of them.

Who on earth are you talk about? Are you really self-centered enough to think that TJ parents deserve such accolades because their kids got into TJ? No wonder your graduation banners are always so big. They must size them in line with your egos.

You dig your own hole deeper every time you open your mouth.