SAT "adversity" adjustment

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only way this can work is to make it OPTIONAL. Plenty of people will want to report their neighborhood adversity score, and plenty won't. It is profiling and just as disclosing your race is optional and applicants have strict control over what they wish to present in their applications (even teacher recs--you can opt to see them but of course most would not), having a mark on your application which may be inaccurate and stereotyping should be something you can OPT OUT of.

It's not something you will be able to OPT-In or out of. The College Board provides it to the colleges and the colleges are free to use it or not. They've already piloted it so it's been happening already. This isn't about the individual information that kids provide - they are using publicly available data to provide more context.

Can people actually read about it to understand how it works? Might help to do this to be informed.

Do you understand what the word "Piloting" means? Are you aware that organizations/businesses are capable of responding to feedback, especially if they realize they will lose money if they share information associated with a performance score that the consumer doesn't want them to share. Yes, colleges can do their own assessments of adversity or privilege. The issue is that paired with a score of performance is a score that affects perception of that score, and is not viewable by the consumer. Dumb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only way this can work is to make it OPTIONAL. Plenty of people will want to report their neighborhood adversity score, and plenty won't. It is profiling and just as disclosing your race is optional and applicants have strict control over what they wish to present in their applications (even teacher recs--you can opt to see them but of course most would not), having a mark on your application which may be inaccurate and stereotyping should be something you can OPT OUT of.

You can’t opt out of your race, unless you want to be assumed white or Asian and receive a penalty.

My 23 and me said 2% sub Saharan, so I guess we're black now

[Anonymous]

p.s. the College Board is making money off of profiling a captive audience (unless they go the ACT or test-optional route).

[Anonymous]

Why can't we just go back to test scores that's the whole point. Social engineering has nothing to do with education. Software code, cancer etc don't care whether it's black, white or yellow hands working to solve problems.

[Anonymous]

So now living in a good school district will cost your kids some points. How will people be able to game that system...... maybe buy a vacation home in Appalachia and use that address?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So now living in a good school district will cost your kids some points. How will people be able to game that system...... maybe buy a vacation home in Appalachia and use that address?

It had to match the high school address. Hard for a kid to live in Appalachia and attend high school in Bethesda.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why can't we just go back to test scores that's the whole point. Social engineering has nothing to do with education. Software code, cancer etc don't care whether it's black, white or yellow hands working to solve problems.

You haven't heard the news that rich people are cheating on the SAT? That's social engineering in the the form of gaming/cheating the system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So now living in a good school district will cost your kids some points. How will people be able to game that system...... maybe buy a vacation home in Appalachia and use that address?

It had to match the high school address. Hard for a kid to live in Appalachia and attend high school in Bethesda.

Haha, ok use the Appalachia address and send them to private boarding school.

[Anonymous]

The way against white continue

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The way against white continue

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So now living in a good school district will cost your kids some points. How will people be able to game that system...... maybe buy a vacation home in Appalachia and use that address?

It had to match the high school address. Hard for a kid to live in Appalachia and attend high school in Bethesda.

Haha, ok use the Appalachia address and send them to private boarding school.

Nope. Because whatever score Appalachia would get them would be offset by the achievement level of the high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only way this can work is to make it OPTIONAL. Plenty of people will want to report their neighborhood adversity score, and plenty won't. It is profiling and just as disclosing your race is optional and applicants have strict control over what they wish to present in their applications (even teacher recs--you can opt to see them but of course most would not), having a mark on your application which may be inaccurate and stereotyping should be something you can OPT OUT of.

It's not something you will be able to OPT-In or out of. The College Board provides it to the colleges and the colleges are free to use it or not. They've already piloted it so it's been happening already. This isn't about the individual information that kids provide - they are using publicly available data to provide more context.

Can people actually read about it to understand how it works? Might help to do this to be informed.

Do you understand what the word "Piloting" means? Are you aware that organizations/businesses are capable of responding to feedback, especially if they realize they will lose money if they share information associated with a performance score that the consumer doesn't want them to share. Yes, colleges can do their own assessments of adversity or privilege. The issue is that paired with a score of performance is a score that affects perception of that score, and is not viewable by the consumer. Dumb.

Then opt out of the test. Apply to test-optional schools only. ACT is going to be doing this too, so no escape.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't we just go back to test scores that's the whole point. Social engineering has nothing to do with education. Software code, cancer etc don't care whether it's black, white or yellow hands working to solve problems.

You haven't heard the news that rich people are cheating on the SAT? That's social engineering in the the form of gaming/cheating the system.

The problem is cheating, work on that idiots

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So now living in a good school district will cost your kids some points. How will people be able to game that system...... maybe buy a vacation home in Appalachia and use that address?

It had to match the high school address. Hard for a kid to live in Appalachia and attend high school in Bethesda.

In the last year, pick a school that allows all the meaningful classes to be taken at a local community college. Don't need to bother with AP's; these are transferable. Win/win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why can't we just go back to test scores that's the whole point. Social engineering has nothing to do with education. Software code, cancer etc don't care whether it's black, white or yellow hands working to solve problems.

Oddly, in today’s society comments like these are seen as racist.