SAT "adversity" adjustment

[Anonymous]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/sat-to-give-students-adversity-score-to-capture-social-and-economic-background-11557999000

Wonder how they'll define adversity.

It is hard for me to support it as a "donut hole" parent, but I do recognize that this is appropriate direction given how prep classes routinely up SAT scores by 200-300 points.

Thoughts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/articles/sat-to-give-students-adversity-score-to-capture-social-and-economic-background-11557999000

Wonder how they'll define adversity.

It is hard for me to support it as a "donut hole" parent, but I do recognize that this is appropriate direction given how prep classes routinely up SAT scores by 200-300 points.

Thoughts?

Lol donut hole families are not remotely “adverse” when it comes to the SAT. I believe they are attempting to measure true adversity.

I think this is an excellent idea.

[Anonymous]

Horrible idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/articles/sat-to-give-students-adversity-score-to-capture-social-and-economic-background-11557999000

Wonder how they'll define adversity.

It is hard for me to support it as a "donut hole" parent, but I do recognize that this is appropriate direction given how prep classes routinely up SAT scores by 200-300 points.

Thoughts?

Lol donut hole families are not remotely “adverse” when it comes to the SAT. I believe they are attempting to measure true adversity.

I think this is an excellent idea.

OP herr:
Yea thanks, I get that my child will be losing out in the new arrangement. I think this makes SAT2's more important.

[Anonymous]

The SAT and College Board in general is the great undiscovered scam on the American educational system. This is an interesting idea, but I don't trust them to have thought it through or have the professional capacity to execute this in the appropriate way, if there is one. Plus colleges already look at context. And what will it mean for magnet program kids?
Kahn academy has partnered with the College Board to offer free college prep and this may be the reason that the last two years of SAT scores are out of sync with previous, requiring down-curving perfectly good performance. Word has it they have made recent changes to the SAT without the proper consultation of psychometricians and the recent rounds of testing are unreliable. The article says College Board will send the adversity score to colleges but not tell the family what score they are sending. Is that legal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The SAT and College Board in general is the great undiscovered scam on the American educational system. This is an interesting idea, but I don't trust them to have thought it through or have the professional capacity to execute this in the appropriate way, if there is one. Plus colleges already look at context. And what will it mean for magnet program kids?
Kahn academy has partnered with the College Board to offer free college prep and this may be the reason that the last two years of SAT scores are out of sync with previous, requiring down-curving perfectly good performance. Word has it they have made recent changes to the SAT without the proper consultation of psychometricians and the recent rounds of testing are unreliable. The article says College Board will send the adversity score to colleges but not tell the family what score they are sending. Is that legal?

I meant to add that I think the Kahn academy prep is great and does a lot to level the playing field as far as making prep available to those who can't or don't want to spend on expensive private prep. But it may be a reason that they are resorting to downcurving the test as the only way to get separation on the now dumbed-down test. Who would take an instrument and deliberately make it less precise??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Horrible idea.

Amazingly good idea to dumb down US education even more.

Signed,

The Chinese

[Anonymous]

So I wonder if it makes sense for education-centric families to move to poor performing school districts. Private school if possible in upper elementary and maybe middle, then HS in some 3/10 horror that gives and option to effectively take full days at the local community college, just coming back for gym and "leadership". 9th and 10th grades are hardest because, since those schools teach on a subpar level, kids will need to effectively homeschool in addition to spending wasted hours in the 3/10. However, maybe they can be "sick" a lot, like a lot.

And we'll never have to worry about our kids becoming SJW.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The SAT and College Board in general is the great undiscovered scam on the American educational system. This is an interesting idea, but I don't trust them to have thought it through or have the professional capacity to execute this in the appropriate way, if there is one. Plus colleges already look at context. And what will it mean for magnet program kids?
Kahn academy has partnered with the College Board to offer free college prep and this may be the reason that the last two years of SAT scores are out of sync with previous, requiring down-curving perfectly good performance. Word has it they have made recent changes to the SAT without the proper consultation of psychometricians and the recent rounds of testing are unreliable. The article says College Board will send the adversity score to colleges but not tell the family what score they are sending. Is that legal?

I meant to add that I think the Kahn academy prep is great and does a lot to level the playing field as far as making prep available to those who can't or don't want to spend on expensive private prep. But it may be a reason that they are resorting to downcurving the test as the only way to get separation on the now dumbed-down test. Who would take an instrument and deliberately make it less precise??

It's already terribly not precise.

Colleges are going away from SAT because it is so bad. This is just their feeble attempt to hold market share.

Kahn Academy prep is a joke compared to tutoring.

People who don't like the "adjustment" will be people the SAT already unfairly rewards for where they were born and to whom they were born.

I don't particularly like it or dislike it ... because the SAT is just a money making scheme that is mostly meaningless.

[Anonymous]

Also, can we please make more magnet spots and put them in the worst performing schools, please? There has to be SOME benefit to normal people from all the social engineering.

[Anonymous]

Creepy. I can see the privileged white families finding a way to easily game this too.

[Anonymous]

Kind of makes north Arlington less desirable, no? Off to Manassas!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The SAT and College Board in general is the great undiscovered scam on the American educational system. This is an interesting idea, but I don't trust them to have thought it through or have the professional capacity to execute this in the appropriate way, if there is one. Plus colleges already look at context. And what will it mean for magnet program kids?
Kahn academy has partnered with the College Board to offer free college prep and this may be the reason that the last two years of SAT scores are out of sync with previous, requiring down-curving perfectly good performance. Word has it they have made recent changes to the SAT without the proper consultation of psychometricians and the recent rounds of testing are unreliable. The article says College Board will send the adversity score to colleges but not tell the family what score they are sending. Is that legal?

I meant to add that I think the Kahn academy prep is great and does a lot to level the playing field as far as making prep available to those who can't or don't want to spend on expensive private prep. But it may be a reason that they are resorting to downcurving the test as the only way to get separation on the now dumbed-down test. Who would take an instrument and deliberately make it less precise??

It's already terribly not precise.

Colleges are going away from SAT because it is so bad. This is just their feeble attempt to hold market share.

Kahn Academy prep is a joke compared to tutoring.

People who don't like the "adjustment" will be people the SAT already unfairly rewards for where they were born and to whom they were born.

I don't particularly like it or dislike it ... because the SAT is just a money making scheme that is mostly meaningless.

Why isn't there a greater movement against the College Board in general? They dominate education K to post-graduate and wield outsized influence on teaching and life opportunities (college decisions and beyond). They charge astronomical amounts and make a mint on retakes, all the more with the down-curving they're doing. Someone we know had a score drop of almost 100 points for no identifiable reason recently.

[Anonymous]

Why are so many posters suggesting that this is a bad thing for affluent families? It isn’t. It merely levels the playing field. It’s not a zero-sum game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The SAT and College Board in general is the great undiscovered scam on the American educational system. This is an interesting idea, but I don't trust them to have thought it through or have the professional capacity to execute this in the appropriate way, if there is one. Plus colleges already look at context. And what will it mean for magnet program kids?
Kahn academy has partnered with the College Board to offer free college prep and this may be the reason that the last two years of SAT scores are out of sync with previous, requiring down-curving perfectly good performance. Word has it they have made recent changes to the SAT without the proper consultation of psychometricians and the recent rounds of testing are unreliable. The article says College Board will send the adversity score to colleges but not tell the family what score they are sending. Is that legal?

I meant to add that I think the Kahn academy prep is great and does a lot to level the playing field as far as making prep available to those who can't or don't want to spend on expensive private prep. But it may be a reason that they are resorting to downcurving the test as the only way to get separation on the now dumbed-down test. Who would take an instrument and deliberately make it less precise??

It's already terribly not precise.

Colleges are going away from SAT because it is so bad. This is just their feeble attempt to hold market share.

Kahn Academy prep is a joke compared to tutoring.

People who don't like the "adjustment" will be people the SAT already unfairly rewards for where they were born and to whom they were born.

I don't particularly like it or dislike it ... because the SAT is just a money making scheme that is mostly meaningless.

Why isn't there a greater movement against the College Board in general? They dominate education K to post-graduate and wield outsized influence on teaching and life opportunities (college decisions and beyond). They charge astronomical amounts and make a mint on retakes, all the more with the down-curving they're doing. Someone we know had a score drop of almost 100 points for no identifiable reason recently.

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