Spring 2017 soccer club tryouts

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Hey parents, it's simple.
Don't play travel soccer.
Don't accept your player's Big CCL club offer if you don't want to deal with the whole elite vs. bottom pool parents that may or may not be there.
No one is forcing you to do this.
Last thing needed are people taking these debates into the travel teams next year and crying about what uniform #s the club allotted to their team.
Just STFU please.

Geez, coach. Calm down. You'll still get your paycheck. Nothing wrong with parents trying to make informed decisions. Yeah, it means a lot of crap gets thrown around, too, but some of this discussion is valuable.

Sorry to disappoint you.
As PP said, you posters are batshit crazy.

"You'll still get your paycheck."

But like another PP said, thanks for making it clear that you are one of the parents who looks down upon Arlington coaches as inferiors

hoping they get their paychecks from you entitled Type A's paying the bills.

[Anonymous]

To change the topic some...

what's with shitty behavior being rewarded? Why do some of the players with the absolute shittiest attitudes, that continually disrupt practices and cause all kinds of problems on a routine basis get promoted?

In my day, coaches had balls and character and if a kid were a complete asshole 99% of the time--they were first on the bench---and if it still didn't stop it--they were off the team.

My kids team is pretty upset tonight that a kid that is always in trouble is getting honored with moving all the way to the top.

Is that what we do in 2017? I can tell you that doesn't even fly Internationally. If a player is a disruption--he's gone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To change the topic some...

what's with shitty behavior being rewarded? Why do some of the players with the absolute shittiest attitudes, that continually disrupt practices and cause all kinds of problems on a routine basis get promoted?

In my day, coaches had balls and character and if a kid were a complete asshole 99% of the time--they were first on the bench---and if it still didn't stop it--they were off the team.

My kids team is pretty upset tonight that a kid that is always in trouble is getting honored with moving all the way to the top.

Is that what we do in 2017? I can tell you that doesn't even fly Internationally. If a player is a disruption--he's gone.

These aren't little kids for the record. We are talking 12 year olds.

[Anonymous]

Anyone else ditching club next year?

We aren't doing league/club play next year. Kids have a good opportunity to just train with professionals and they are gung-ho for it. Fairly tired of the BS that is the local club soccer scene.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else ditching club next year?

We aren't doing league/club play next year. Kids have a good opportunity to just train with professionals and they are gung-ho for it. Fairly tired of the BS that is the local club soccer scene.

+1
We have wanted to, but are waiting to see what the BRYC parents think next year after a year of the new format.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not as big as deal as either you nor Joga make it out to be.

European coaches = Kephern or one of his friends will visit, and then they have a Joga SC camp in the summer.

Contacts with National Team coaches = we know the email address to send our recommendations for the NTCs to

Inter'l tour = If you pay the price, you can go on our trip to Holland and when we play some other teams travelling there, we'll call it a tournament

Lol, but what about their "affiliations with local colleges and universities"?

You think that's all BS too?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good lord. We're with Arlington and we love it - I haven't seen anything like what's being discussed here. The parents on our team and the parents that I meet at pooled practices and tournaments have been great, and I feel like the coaches, at least at our level, are more low-key than many we've played against. They seem to teach the younger kids the fundamentals without focusing on scoring. (which resulted in us getting absolutely crushed during our first 4 games our first season, but we're doing better now.)

I did find it kind of interesting that they started this Academy thing this year, identifying rec kids who played winter soccer for travel potential. The two Academy kids from our rec team are 2 of our best and the only ones trying out for travel this year, so the selection methodology seems appropriate.

I think the only downside is that they field so many teams at the lower level, that if you're on one of the 5th or 6th lowest teams, you are coming up against teams from BRYC and VYSA and VSA etc. who are probably just better teams. You can start to feel like cannon fodder. Plus you're seen as feeder material for the upper teams when they lose girls or need subs, so you end up playing tournaments and games with less than a full roster. It's hard to play for an hour with only 2 subs.

Just to clarify, Academy has been around for years in Arlington - the Advanced Academy concept is new. I believe the Arlington coaches from the normal Academy identified some kids to be invited to the Advanced Academy (no tryouts, but the coaches worked with the kids through Pre-Academy and Academy so could easily identify some talent without a tryout). The Advanced Academy then practiced over the Winter and this Spring (Winter soccer is through Arlington County, not ASA, and no ASA coaches attended the Arlington County Winter Games). Arlington Advanced Academy is definitely not as advanced as U8 Academy programs in McLean and Alexandria since it is only 1 practice a week with no games - so whatever insults you throw at Arlington parents, you can also apply to Alexandria and McLean parents about trying to advance their U8s.

There is a little craziness around the U9 tryouts everywhere since it is new to most of the kids and parents, and since half of their U9 boys in Arlington will get cut (unlike other programs that don't have the same numbers and 4/5ths will make the team) - and it was worse before the age change. But after U9 tryout, in the following years, much less stress and craziness. The parents I've met through ASA Travel have been great - not at all acting like this anonymous board reflects.

And yes, some of the lower teams for Arlington are cannon-fodder for other local leagues, but that is also true for others in the CCL league. Whereas Arlington's Elite players (Red and White) play in the CCL and CCLII leagues, their 2nd tier & 3rd tier teams (Blue/ Black and Gold/Silver) play in NCSL and ODSL. Many of the region's clubs who are not in CCL or CCLII play their top players in NCSL, whereas Arlington plays NCSL with its 22nd+ best players, so it is much tougher for Arlington, McLean, BRYC, LMVSC, etc.. to be competitive in those leagues. Yes, they divide NCSL and ODSL into different divisions - but it is hard for Arlington teams (and other CCL teams) to consistently be in the top NCSL / ODSL divisions. So if you are an Arlington Blue team in NCSL, you are playing against some of the best players in the area (just not the CCL leagues best players which are a small percent of the local leagues).

My son did the U8 Program in McLean and I thought it was well run and coached. They have 2-3 practices a week and scrimmages (not games because they don't play other teams). My son learned a ton of technical skills which set him up for future years. I'd do it again for younger siblings. The con is that there are 40 kids at practice every week (so lots of kids) and then the scrimmages are just within the program. Some kids don't like that kind of atmosphere (can get overwhelming). But they really do teach a lot.

I don't think it's a cash cow...they actually really do a lot of age appropriate development and practices. the parents I know who didn't like it just felt it was too 'big' and didn't like that there weren't 'games' like in rec. Trade off was professional coaching which for me was a huge pro.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else ditching club next year?

We aren't doing league/club play next year. Kids have a good opportunity to just train with professionals and they are gung-ho for it. Fairly tired of the BS that is the local club soccer scene.

+1
We have wanted to, but are waiting to see what the BRYC parents think next year after a year of the new format.

Not ditching club but heading out of BRYC. My kid is in it for the competition which is the most fun. Not constant training ( which BRYC makes boring) and some lame excuse to host so called scrimmages. Oh yeah and the price goes up, does that mean better training or to subsidize ECNL travel costs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else ditching club next year?

We aren't doing league/club play next year. Kids have a good opportunity to just train with professionals and they are gung-ho for it. Fairly tired of the BS that is the local club soccer scene.

No games? Just training? And your kids *want* to do this? Why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else ditching club next year?

We aren't doing league/club play next year. Kids have a good opportunity to just train with professionals and they are gung-ho for it. Fairly tired of the BS that is the local club soccer scene.

+1
We have wanted to, but are waiting to see what the BRYC parents think next year after a year of the new format.

Not ditching club but heading out of BRYC. My kid is in it for the competition which is the most fun. Not constant training ( which BRYC makes boring) and some lame excuse to host so called scrimmages. Oh yeah and the price goes up, does that mean better training or to subsidize ECNL travel costs.

The other problem, for me, is that what if, after training with BRYC for xxx years, your kids doesn't make the ECNL team...what then? no team? no club?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not as big as deal as either you nor Joga make it out to be.

European coaches = Kephern or one of his friends will visit, and then they have a Joga SC camp in the summer.

Contacts with National Team coaches = we know the email address to send our recommendations for the NTCs to

Inter'l tour = If you pay the price, you can go on our trip to Holland and when we play some other teams travelling there, we'll call it a tournament

Lol, but what about their "affiliations with local colleges and universities"?



You think that's all BS too?

Not original poster but what club does not have affiliations with a local club? What's up with their website not having any info, all in the form of a flyer? May have decent coaching but seems that organization is lacking and that is not good.

[Anonymous]

I was wondering that about BRYC. Would the costs be lower because there are no league fees, etc.? I guess that is not the case according to the earlier poster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was wondering that about BRYC. Would the costs be lower because there are no league fees, etc.? I guess that is not the case according to the earlier poster.

Someone should ask BRYC, maybe they are increasing the number of coaches to focus on the training and make the player/coach ratios better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was wondering that about BRYC. Would the costs be lower because there are no league fees, etc.? I guess that is not the case according to the earlier poster.

No it went up. Last year it was 1650 and it has now gone up to $1800 for u9 - u12

http://www.brycsoccer.com/about-us/fees

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was wondering that about BRYC. Would the costs be lower because there are no league fees, etc.? I guess that is not the case according to the earlier poster.

No it went up. Last year it was 1650 and it has now gone up to $1800 for u9 - u12

http://www.brycsoccer.com/about-us/fees

The fees now cover some tournament and winter league fees that were not previously included. Also the US Club fees are higher than VYSA registration fees.