Top 10 public "ranking"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The top ten publics rated by USNWR (which, yes, still uses social mobility and DEI factors - hence the California schools are up, but that's apt to change soon) are:

Cal
UCLA
Mich
UNC
UVA (tied for fourth with UNC)
UCSD
FLA
UT Austin
Georgetown Tech
Davis
Irvine

My top 10 public, no rank, would be: Michigan, Cal, UCLA, Georgia Tech, UVA, W&M, UT Austin, UNC, and Wisconsin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The top ten publics rated by USNWR (which, yes, still uses social mobility and DEI factors - hence the California schools are up, but that's apt to change soon) are:

Cal
UCLA
Mich
UNC
UVA (tied for fourth with UNC)
UCSD
FLA
UT Austin
Georgetown Tech
Davis
Irvine

My top 10 public, no rank, would be: Michigan, Cal, UCLA, Georgia Tech, UVA, W&M, UT Austin, UNC, and Wisconsin.

I left off Illinois.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The top ten publics rated by USNWR (which, yes, still uses social mobility and DEI factors - hence the California schools are up, but that's apt to change soon) are:

Cal
UCLA
Mich
UNC
UVA (tied for fourth with UNC)
UCSD
FLA
UT Austin
Georgetown Tech
Davis
Irvine

These are great schools with multiple areas of excellence. If you are instate , it’s a no brainer to attend any of them. If you are OOS and looking to pay 60K-80k anyway then these would be far better than many of the lower than T30 ranked schools floating around this board.

Sure but pretty much any private university in the top 30 would have major advantages compared to these.

I don't know if every private college in T30 or lower is that much better either. I would rather my kid go to the top 5 on this list OOS than some private colleges.

Absolutley

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Further trashing of the UC haters:

Acceptance rate for in-state applicants:

UCLA: 10.0%
Berkeley: 13.5%
UCSD: 26.5%
UVA: 25.5%
Michigan - Ann Ar
bor: 39.5%
UT - Austin: 41.0%
UNC - Chapel Hill: 41.5%

Compare those stone cold facts with the respective OOS acceptance rates.

We’re supposed to believe that the institutions accepting a higher percentage of their population are better than the more selective ones that are accepting a lower percentage of their population? Yeah, OK.

I'd gladly take the latter four schools over any of the UCs considering that they're all overrun by neurotic striver Asians.

Not true. uva's overall acceptance rate is now 17%. For OOS it drops to 13% and down further at 7% for regular decision, OOS>

Cal and UCLA don’t offer ED because they don’t have to game the system to maintain very high maintain yield rates.

If they did offer an ED option, their acceptance rates would likely plummet to < 5% and their yields would surge to > 85%.

You would actually have a worse student body than before. The applicants that would apply ED to Cal would be pretty bad. There's probably a reasonable number of top students putting UCLA at the top of their list but not so much at Cal. Stanford exists and if the student is really good, they will want to take a shot at it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Further trashing of the UC haters:

Acceptance rate for in-state applicants:

UCLA: 10.0%
Berkeley: 13.5%
UCSD: 26.5%
UVA: 25.5%
Michigan - Ann Ar
bor: 39.5%
UT - Austin: 41.0%
UNC - Chapel Hill: 41.5%

Compare those stone cold facts with the respective OOS acceptance rates.

We’re supposed to believe that the institutions accepting a higher percentage of their population are better than the more selective ones that are accepting a lower percentage of their population? Yeah, OK.

I'd gladly take the latter four schools over any of the UCs considering that they're all overrun by neurotic striver Asians.

Not true. uva's overall acceptance rate is now 17%. For OOS it drops to 13% and down further at 7% for regular decision, OOS>

Cal and UCLA don’t offer ED because they don’t have to game the system to maintain very high maintain yield rates.

If they did offer an ED option, their acceptance rates would likely plummet to < 5% and their yields would surge to > 85%.

You would actually have a worse student body than before. The applicants that would apply ED to Cal would be pretty bad. There's probably a reasonable number of top students putting UCLA at the top of their list but not so much at Cal. Stanford exists and if the student is really good, they will want to take a shot at it.

Cal is overwhelmingly preferred by engineering students in the Bay Area. If they got into Stanford and if either their parents had liquid assets to pay or they got a free ride then they probably would choose Stanford but that’s a lot of ifs to align.

For instate students, I do wish they could rank or choose an ED and an alternative. There is no way on the UC app to show any affinity, connection or preference for one campus or another. The schools are so different from each other. There are in state kids who are UC or bust but AOs assume they’ll just go to a private university if they are from a wealthy zip code.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Further trashing of the UC haters:

Acceptance rate for in-state applicants:

UCLA: 10.0%
Berkeley: 13.5%
UCSD: 26.5%
UVA: 25.5%
Michigan - Ann Ar
bor: 39.5%
UT - Austin: 41.0%
UNC - Chapel Hill: 41.5%

Compare those stone cold facts with the respective OOS acceptance rates.

We’re supposed to believe that the institutions accepting a higher percentage of their population are better than the more selective ones that are accepting a lower percentage of their population? Yeah, OK.

I'd gladly take the latter four schools over any of the UCs considering that they're all overrun by neurotic striver Asians.

Not true. uva's overall acceptance rate is now 17%. For OOS it drops to 13% and down further at 7% for regular decision, OOS>

Cal and UCLA don’t offer ED because they don’t have to game the system to maintain very high maintain yield rates.

If they did offer an ED option, their acceptance rates would likely plummet to < 5% and their yields would surge to > 85%.

You would actually have a worse student body than before. The applicants that would apply ED to Cal would be pretty bad. There's probably a reasonable number of top students putting UCLA at the top of their list but not so much at Cal. Stanford exists and if the student is really good, they will want to take a shot at it.

Cal is overwhelmingly preferred by engineering students in the Bay Area. If they got into Stanford and if either their parents had liquid assets to pay or they got a free ride then they probably would choose Stanford but that’s a lot of ifs to align.

For instate students, I do wish they could rank or choose an ED and an alternative. There is no way on the UC app to show any affinity, connection or preference for one campus or another. The schools are so different from each other. There are in state kids who are UC or bust but AOs assume they’ll just go to a private university if they are from a wealthy zip code.

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Stanford+University&with=University+of+California%2C+Berkeley

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The top ten publics rated by USNWR (which, yes, still uses social mobility and DEI factors - hence the California schools are up, but that's apt to change soon) are:

Cal
UCLA
Mich
UNC
UVA (tied for fourth with UNC)
UCSD
FLA
UT Austin
Georgetown Tech
Davis
Irvine

These are great schools with multiple areas of excellence. If you are instate , it’s a no brainer to attend any of them. If you are OOS and looking to pay 60K-80k anyway then these would be far better than many of the lower than T30 ranked schools floating around this board.

Sure but pretty much any private university in the top 30 would have major advantages compared to these.

People in the northeast tend to over-value privates merely for being private. Perhaps because they usually live in states where publics pale in comparison privates, & they are too self-satisfied to notice that this not the case in most other states.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The top ten publics rated by USNWR (which, yes, still uses social mobility and DEI factors - hence the California schools are up, but that's apt to change soon) are:

Cal
UCLA
Mich
UNC
UVA (tied for fourth with UNC)
UCSD
FLA
UT Austin
Georgetown Tech
Davis
Irvine

These are great schools with multiple areas of excellence. If you are instate , it’s a no brainer to attend any of them. If you are OOS and looking to pay 60K-80k anyway then these would be far better than many of the lower than T30 ranked schools floating around this board.

Sure but pretty much any private university in the top 30 would have major advantages compared to these.

People in the northeast tend to over-value privates merely for being private. Perhaps because they usually live in states where publics pale in comparison privates, & they are too self-satisfied to notice that this not the case in most other states.

Bingo!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The top ten publics rated by USNWR (which, yes, still uses social mobility and DEI factors - hence the California schools are up, but that's apt to change soon) are:

Cal
UCLA
Mich
UNC
UVA (tied for fourth with UNC)
UCSD
FLA
UT Austin
Georgetown Tech
Davis
Irvine

These are great schools with multiple areas of excellence. If you are instate , it’s a no brainer to attend any of them. If you are OOS and looking to pay 60K-80k anyway then these would be far better than many of the lower than T30 ranked schools floating around this board.

Sure but pretty much any private university in the top 30 would have major advantages compared to these.

People in the northeast tend to over-value privates merely for being private. Perhaps because they usually live in states where publics pale in comparison privates, & they are too self-satisfied to notice that this not the case in most other states.

+1000000

[Anonymous]

Do OOS students attend Cal state universities? Wouldn't you just go to the next level university in own state instead?

[Anonymous]

Michigan
GA Tech
UVA
UCLA
UIUC
UNC
Cal
U Texas
Florida
Wisconsin

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Michigan
GA Tech
UVA
UCLA
UIUC
UNC
Cal
U Texas
Florida
Wisconsin

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do OOS students attend Cal state universities? Wouldn't you just go to the next level university in own state instead?

Because depending on your state flagships or next level down, you don’t have the same opportunities as you do at a higher ranked OOS public. Cost is always a consideration though so finding ways to make the most of where you land is always a good plan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do OOS students attend Cal state universities? Wouldn't you just go to the next level university in own state instead?

For those OOS students who prioritize the quality of life factors, probably.

66 - 78 degrees 300+ days each year, with less than 20 days of rain?

Yes, please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Michigan
GA Tech
UVA
UCLA
UIUC
UNC
Cal
U Texas
Florida
Wisconsin

All great schools, but W&M objectively has a stronger academic profile than several of these.