I am observing the biggest leftward cultural shift since 2008

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Anonymous wrote:Why does MAGA think Trump is going to be the one to push back on corporate greed? Are they seriously idiots?

The budget they passed mostly helps the corporations and the rich. If MAGA really wanted an anti-establishment, anti-capitalist leader, they should vote for AOC or Bernie, and I don't support either.


I don't know about corporate greed. Washington has a lot more to do with greed than Wall Street. You know who is making the rules. Wall Street is responding to Washington.

Oh, and if you think the GOP is the problem, you had three terms of Obama recently. The global economy is moving forward. Are democrats? Hell no they aren't.


Those "three terms of obama" are responsible for most of the job and GDP growth over the last 30 years, particularly given that both Bush's and trump left economic recession and dumpster fires that the "obama terms" had to fix. Yes, the global economy us moving forward and it is happening without the USA if you have been paying any attention to trade agreements signed over the the past two months.


This. Supporting the R isn’t going to course correct on this matter. They’ve never truly supported globalization. Building *everything* in the USA will be costly since most supply chains are fragmented and outsourced to global suppliers directly. Requiring certain non-negotiables related to our security, medical, weapons systems, etc. to be manufactured here? Yes, I see and appreciate the argument for it. However, we still need international diplomacy along the way - which is NOT happening right now.

I hope more people skew left even if only for policy and economic strength. We need to correct the imbalance.


Building everything outside the USA leaves us utterly defenseless. To save a few pennies, we offshore our national defense. A serious person understands tail risks and would never support such a naive policy.
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Anonymous wrote:Why does MAGA think Trump is going to be the one to push back on corporate greed? Are they seriously idiots?

The budget they passed mostly helps the corporations and the rich. If MAGA really wanted an anti-establishment, anti-capitalist leader, they should vote for AOC or Bernie, and I don't support either.


I don't know about corporate greed. Washington has a lot more to do with greed than Wall Street. You know who is making the rules. Wall Street is responding to Washington.

Oh, and if you think the GOP is the problem, you had three terms of Obama recently. The global economy is moving forward. Are democrats? Hell no they aren't.


Those "three terms of obama" are responsible for most of the job and GDP growth over the last 30 years, particularly given that both Bush's and trump left economic recession and dumpster fires that the "obama terms" had to fix. Yes, the global economy us moving forward and it is happening without the USA if you have been paying any attention to trade agreements signed over the the past two months.


This. Supporting the R isn’t going to course correct on this matter. They’ve never truly supported globalization. Building *everything* in the USA will be costly since most supply chains are fragmented and outsourced to global suppliers directly. Requiring certain non-negotiables related to our security, medical, weapons systems, etc. to be manufactured here? Yes, I see and appreciate the argument for it. However, we still need international diplomacy along the way - which is NOT happening right now.

I hope more people skew left even if only for policy and economic strength. We need to correct the imbalance.


Building everything outside the USA leaves us utterly defenseless. To save a few pennies, we offshore our national defense. A serious person understands tail risks and would never support such a naive policy.


I’m glad to hear that you understand my concern, despite my appreciation for the argument. I dont think the solution is for everything to be built in house or out of house, but strategically with alliances who hold mutual risks and investment in an agreed upon strategy that would vary amongst different needs.

As it stands, Donald Trump, under his “America First” agenda, strongly advocates reshoring and building a wide range of industries domestically — especially military equipment, high-tech sectors, and medical/manufacturing infrastructure. He uses/has used tools like executive orders, tariffs, Defense Production powers, and infrastructure incentives to actively bring manufacturing formerly overseas back to the US.

IMO this creates security risks that I won’t outline here, but it also faces practical implementation constraints due to the time it would take to actually have a strong manufacturing component. And due to the imbalance of wealth and rising costs, its likely to be more expensive. There will be high labor costs, AI costs, global supply chain complexity, and legislative hurdles. It’s going to take a lot of time for a meager return.

Most impacted initially will be strategic sectors (military, AI/chips, pharma), not blanket domesticization of all consumer goods.

The L could educate voters about things like this, helping people understand causation/correlation and what their vote supports/restricts in simple terms.
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Anonymous wrote:Right. So the fact that Republicans won the White House, House, Senate and more governorships is clearly an indication of a shift to the left. Survey says? NO. It is a clear rejection of the lurch to the left. Open your eyes…. Migration away from Blue states to Red is even more evidence as people are literally voting with their feet and their dollars. Private schools cannot meet the need as people flee disastrous public schools hijacked by unions. I mean honestly what are you even talking about. Good lord you are delusional.


Americans, especially those whose ancestors were LEGAL immigrants and became CITIZENS by following the LAW, are tired if our tax money wasted . We celebrate ICE, DOGE, President Trump & his Administration.


So if you were alive in the late 1930s in Germany you would agree with Hitler?
You know you have won the argument when the Dems bring up Hitler, it’s their desperation move after all their other meaningless insults.


Typical maga response. Maybe you should brush up on history. You may learn something.

You denigrate the millions of Nazi victims by even remotely equating Trump policies with Hitler.

You also shutoff any useful dialogue on current policy with this hyperbolic name calling. And, it’s very unlikely Dems get a clean sweep in the next election(s), so you might want to consider a different tack, assuming you actually want to see some progress in the future.


Not a democratic strategist so your point is??

And no name calling, just referring to the Nazis who were the party in charge in Germany.

Reading accounts from the holocaust, documentaries from when the Nazis were in power. Perhaps you should do the same and ask yourself why you and others refute the parallels so much. History repeats itself. Not a difficult concept to grasp.
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Anonymous wrote:Right. So the fact that Republicans won the White House, House, Senate and more governorships is clearly an indication of a shift to the left. Survey says? NO. It is a clear rejection of the lurch to the left. Open your eyes…. Migration away from Blue states to Red is even more evidence as people are literally voting with their feet and their dollars. Private schools cannot meet the need as people flee disastrous public schools hijacked by unions. I mean honestly what are you even talking about. Good lord you are delusional.


Americans, especially those whose ancestors were LEGAL immigrants and became CITIZENS by following the LAW, are tired if our tax money wasted . We celebrate ICE, DOGE, President Trump & his Administration.


So if you were alive in the late 1930s in Germany you would agree with Hitler?
You know you have won the argument when the Dems bring up Hitler, it’s their desperation move after all their other meaningless insults.


Typical maga response. Maybe you should brush up on history. You may learn something.

You denigrate the millions of Nazi victims by even remotely equating Trump policies with Hitler.

You also shutoff any useful dialogue on current policy with this hyperbolic name calling. And, it’s very unlikely Dems get a clean sweep in the next election(s), so you might want to consider a different tack, assuming you actually want to see some progress in the future.


Not a democratic strategist so your point is??

And no name calling, just referring to the Nazis who were the party in charge in Germany.

Reading accounts from the holocaust, documentaries from when the Nazis were in power. Perhaps you should do the same and ask yourself why you and others refute the parallels so much. History repeats itself. Not a difficult concept to grasp.
Good luck in the next election. I guess the Dem slogan will be vote D or your a Nazi. That will definitely change a lot of votes. But, at least it’s straight forward, even Kamala can deliver that one.
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Anonymous wrote:Right. So the fact that Republicans won the White House, House, Senate and more governorships is clearly an indication of a shift to the left. Survey says? NO. It is a clear rejection of the lurch to the left. Open your eyes…. Migration away from Blue states to Red is even more evidence as people are literally voting with their feet and their dollars. Private schools cannot meet the need as people flee disastrous public schools hijacked by unions. I mean honestly what are you even talking about. Good lord you are delusional.


Americans, especially those whose ancestors were LEGAL immigrants and became CITIZENS by following the LAW, are tired if our tax money wasted . We celebrate ICE, DOGE, President Trump & his Administration.


So if you were alive in the late 1930s in Germany you would agree with Hitler?
You know you have won the argument when the Dems bring up Hitler, it’s their desperation move after all their other meaningless insults.


Typical maga response. Maybe you should brush up on history. You may learn something.

You denigrate the millions of Nazi victims by even remotely equating Trump policies with Hitler.

You also shutoff any useful dialogue on current policy with this hyperbolic name calling. And, it’s very unlikely Dems get a clean sweep in the next election(s), so you might want to consider a different tack, assuming you actually want to see some progress in the future.


No, people that study things like history and sociology see it replaying itself, right now. We are just choosing not let it come to fruition. Thee is no compromise to be had. It shouldn’t even factor into the election strategy.

You are the bad guys.

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Anonymous wrote:Right. So the fact that Republicans won the White House, House, Senate and more governorships is clearly an indication of a shift to the left. Survey says? NO. It is a clear rejection of the lurch to the left. Open your eyes…. Migration away from Blue states to Red is even more evidence as people are literally voting with their feet and their dollars. Private schools cannot meet the need as people flee disastrous public schools hijacked by unions. I mean honestly what are you even talking about. Good lord you are delusional.


Americans, especially those whose ancestors were LEGAL immigrants and became CITIZENS by following the LAW, are tired if our tax money wasted . We celebrate ICE, DOGE, President Trump & his Administration.


So if you were alive in the late 1930s in Germany you would agree with Hitler?
You know you have won the argument when the Dems bring up Hitler, it’s their desperation move after all their other meaningless insults.


Typical maga response. Maybe you should brush up on history. You may learn something.

You denigrate the millions of Nazi victims by even remotely equating Trump policies with Hitler.

You also shutoff any useful dialogue on current policy with this hyperbolic name calling. And, it’s very unlikely Dems get a clean sweep in the next election(s), so you might want to consider a different tack, assuming you actually want to see some progress in the future.


No, people that study things like history and sociology see it replaying itself, right now. We are just choosing not let it come to fruition. Thee is no compromise to be had. It shouldn’t even factor into the election strategy.

You are the bad guys.

Oh now we’re just “bad guys” ? What happened to the Hitler talk ? Is this bad guys like Will Smith and Martin Lawerence or was that “bad boys” ?

BTW, the “we are more educated” shtick has never worked at the voter box either. Might want to drop that along with the Hitler talk.
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Anonymous wrote:Right. So the fact that Republicans won the White House, House, Senate and more governorships is clearly an indication of a shift to the left. Survey says? NO. It is a clear rejection of the lurch to the left. Open your eyes…. Migration away from Blue states to Red is even more evidence as people are literally voting with their feet and their dollars. Private schools cannot meet the need as people flee disastrous public schools hijacked by unions. I mean honestly what are you even talking about. Good lord you are delusional.


Americans, especially those whose ancestors were LEGAL immigrants and became CITIZENS by following the LAW, are tired if our tax money wasted . We celebrate ICE, DOGE, President Trump & his Administration.


So if you were alive in the late 1930s in Germany you would agree with Hitler?
You know you have won the argument when the Dems bring up Hitler, it’s their desperation move after all their other meaningless insults.


Typical maga response. Maybe you should brush up on history. You may learn something.

You denigrate the millions of Nazi victims by even remotely equating Trump policies with Hitler.

You also shutoff any useful dialogue on current policy with this hyperbolic name calling. And, it’s very unlikely Dems get a clean sweep in the next election(s), so you might want to consider a different tack, assuming you actually want to see some progress in the future.


No, people that study things like history and sociology see it replaying itself, right now. We are just choosing not let it come to fruition. Thee is no compromise to be had. It shouldn’t even factor into the election strategy.

You are the bad guys.

Oh now we’re just “bad guys” ? What happened to the Hitler talk ? Is this bad guys like Will Smith and Martin Lawerence or was that “bad boys” ?

BTW, the “we are more educated” shtick has never worked at the voter box either. Might want to drop that along with the Hitler talk.

Not PP but he/she was probably referring to this.
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Anonymous wrote:Right. So the fact that Republicans won the White House, House, Senate and more governorships is clearly an indication of a shift to the left. Survey says? NO. It is a clear rejection of the lurch to the left. Open your eyes…. Migration away from Blue states to Red is even more evidence as people are literally voting with their feet and their dollars. Private schools cannot meet the need as people flee disastrous public schools hijacked by unions. I mean honestly what are you even talking about. Good lord you are delusional.


Americans, especially those whose ancestors were LEGAL immigrants and became CITIZENS by following the LAW, are tired if our tax money wasted . We celebrate ICE, DOGE, President Trump & his Administration.


So if you were alive in the late 1930s in Germany you would agree with Hitler?
You know you have won the argument when the Dems bring up Hitler, it’s their desperation move after all their other meaningless insults.


Typical maga response. Maybe you should brush up on history. You may learn something.

You denigrate the millions of Nazi victims by even remotely equating Trump policies with Hitler.

You also shutoff any useful dialogue on current policy with this hyperbolic name calling. And, it’s very unlikely Dems get a clean sweep in the next election(s), so you might want to consider a different tack, assuming you actually want to see some progress in the future.


No, people that study things like history and sociology see it replaying itself, right now. We are just choosing not let it come to fruition. Thee is no compromise to be had. It shouldn’t even factor into the election strategy.

You are the bad guys.

Oh now we’re just “bad guys” ? What happened to the Hitler talk ? Is this bad guys like Will Smith and Martin Lawerence or was that “bad boys” ?

BTW, the “we are more educated” shtick has never worked at the voter box either. Might want to drop that along with the Hitler talk.


Maybe Star Wars is a better example for you? Darth Vader is bad, Trump is bad.
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Anonymous wrote:Right. So the fact that Republicans won the White House, House, Senate and more governorships is clearly an indication of a shift to the left. Survey says? NO. It is a clear rejection of the lurch to the left. Open your eyes…. Migration away from Blue states to Red is even more evidence as people are literally voting with their feet and their dollars. Private schools cannot meet the need as people flee disastrous public schools hijacked by unions. I mean honestly what are you even talking about. Good lord you are delusional.


Americans, especially those whose ancestors were LEGAL immigrants and became CITIZENS by following the LAW, are tired if our tax money wasted . We celebrate ICE, DOGE, President Trump & his Administration.


So if you were alive in the late 1930s in Germany you would agree with Hitler?
You know you have won the argument when the Dems bring up Hitler, it’s their desperation move after all their other meaningless insults.


Typical maga response. Maybe you should brush up on history. You may learn something.

You denigrate the millions of Nazi victims by even remotely equating Trump policies with Hitler.

You also shutoff any useful dialogue on current policy with this hyperbolic name calling. And, it’s very unlikely Dems get a clean sweep in the next election(s), so you might want to consider a different tack, assuming you actually want to see some progress in the future.


No, people that study things like history and sociology see it replaying itself, right now. We are just choosing not let it come to fruition. Thee is no compromise to be had. It shouldn’t even factor into the election strategy.

You are the bad guys.

Oh now we’re just “bad guys” ? What happened to the Hitler talk ? Is this bad guys like Will Smith and Martin Lawerence or was that “bad boys” ?

BTW, the “we are more educated” shtick has never worked at the voter box either. Might want to drop that along with the Hitler talk.


Do you think you are talking to the dnc? Not a strategist, just can see with my own two eyes what is happening in my country. It’s disgusting and sad.

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Anonymous wrote:Right. So the fact that Republicans won the White House, House, Senate and more governorships is clearly an indication of a shift to the left. Survey says? NO. It is a clear rejection of the lurch to the left. Open your eyes…. Migration away from Blue states to Red is even more evidence as people are literally voting with their feet and their dollars. Private schools cannot meet the need as people flee disastrous public schools hijacked by unions. I mean honestly what are you even talking about. Good lord you are delusional.


Americans, especially those whose ancestors were LEGAL immigrants and became CITIZENS by following the LAW, are tired if our tax money wasted . We celebrate ICE, DOGE, President Trump & his Administration.


So if you were alive in the late 1930s in Germany you would agree with Hitler?
You know you have won the argument when the Dems bring up Hitler, it’s their desperation move after all their other meaningless insults.


Typical maga response. Maybe you should brush up on history. You may learn something.

You denigrate the millions of Nazi victims by even remotely equating Trump policies with Hitler.

You also shutoff any useful dialogue on current policy with this hyperbolic name calling. And, it’s very unlikely Dems get a clean sweep in the next election(s), so you might want to consider a different tack, assuming you actually want to see some progress in the future.


No, people that study things like history and sociology see it replaying itself, right now. We are just choosing not let it come to fruition. Thee is no compromise to be had. It shouldn’t even factor into the election strategy.

You are the bad guys.

Oh now we’re just “bad guys” ? What happened to the Hitler talk ? Is this bad guys like Will Smith and Martin Lawerence or was that “bad boys” ?

BTW, the “we are more educated” shtick has never worked at the voter box either. Might want to drop that along with the Hitler talk.


Yes, if you support Trump you are bad.
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Anonymous wrote:I’d say right now that temperatures are so hot that Democrats need to not fight so loudly for the social underdogs this term, but instead the economic underdogs. Give examples of collective action that will be taken that appeal to everyone who has suffered economically.

Also, reframe immigration platform to distinguish from legal immigrants and illegal immigrants. Be specific in where you stand. Let specificity become more localized in various parts of the country where it is appealing to the voter base.

Finally, always speak in layman’s terms first. Then subsequently add intellectual rigor in concise digestible statements that are easy L talking points voters can reiterate. Dumb.it.down. for people.

Orange is the new black. Time to flip the script already. Once we are in office again we can do the rest.

- Independent that would never vote for Musk or anyone tied to the current administration


They are constantly doing this, but people don’t care. Saying it loudly isn’t going to work. Voters need to educate themselves and stop trying to own people with a vote.

GOP this past April…want their own constituents to be poorer, yet they call Dems “elites”…
“Republicans in the U.S. Senate defeated an effort to raise the federal minimum wage on April 5. As Senators prepared to vote on a budget bill funding the government, Senator Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) introduced an amendment to raise the federal minimum wage to $17 an hour. Congress has not passed a federal minimum wage increase since 2007 and it has been stuck at $7.25 an hour since 2009. Twenty-nine states now have higher minimum wage laws. But the federal minimum wage is the minimum wage in the other 21 states, which include Idaho, several Great Plains and Midwest states, and most of the South. The Economic Policy Institute estimates that 22.7 million workers earn the federal minimum wage.”
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PP ^^ Poor MAGA would literally make a life-changing move to move to a blue state. Make it make sense why Dems are the problem.
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Anonymous wrote:I’d say right now that temperatures are so hot that Democrats need to not fight so loudly for the social underdogs this term, but instead the economic underdogs. Give examples of collective action that will be taken that appeal to everyone who has suffered economically.

Also, reframe immigration platform to distinguish from legal immigrants and illegal immigrants. Be specific in where you stand. Let specificity become more localized in various parts of the country where it is appealing to the voter base.

Finally, always speak in layman’s terms first. Then subsequently add intellectual rigor in concise digestible statements that are easy L talking points voters can reiterate. Dumb.it.down. for people.

Orange is the new black. Time to flip the script already. Once we are in office again we can do the rest.

- Independent that would never vote for Musk or anyone tied to the current administration


They are constantly doing this, but people don’t care. Saying it loudly isn’t going to work. Voters need to educate themselves and stop trying to own people with a vote.

GOP this past April…want their own constituents to be poorer, yet they call Dems “elites”…
“Republicans in the U.S. Senate defeated an effort to raise the federal minimum wage on April 5. As Senators prepared to vote on a budget bill funding the government, Senator Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) introduced an amendment to raise the federal minimum wage to $17 an hour. Congress has not passed a federal minimum wage increase since 2007 and it has been stuck at $7.25 an hour since 2009. Twenty-nine states now have higher minimum wage laws. But the federal minimum wage is the minimum wage in the other 21 states, which include Idaho, several Great Plains and Midwest states, and most of the South. The Economic Policy Institute estimates that 22.7 million workers earn the federal minimum wage.”
Why didn’t Biden do this when the Dems controlled the house and senate during his first two years ?
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Anonymous wrote:I’d say right now that temperatures are so hot that Democrats need to not fight so loudly for the social underdogs this term, but instead the economic underdogs. Give examples of collective action that will be taken that appeal to everyone who has suffered economically.

Also, reframe immigration platform to distinguish from legal immigrants and illegal immigrants. Be specific in where you stand. Let specificity become more localized in various parts of the country where it is appealing to the voter base.

Finally, always speak in layman’s terms first. Then subsequently add intellectual rigor in concise digestible statements that are easy L talking points voters can reiterate. Dumb.it.down. for people.

Orange is the new black. Time to flip the script already. Once we are in office again we can do the rest.

- Independent that would never vote for Musk or anyone tied to the current administration


They are constantly doing this, but people don’t care. Saying it loudly isn’t going to work. Voters need to educate themselves and stop trying to own people with a vote.

GOP this past April…want their own constituents to be poorer, yet they call Dems “elites”…
“Republicans in the U.S. Senate defeated an effort to raise the federal minimum wage on April 5. As Senators prepared to vote on a budget bill funding the government, Senator Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) introduced an amendment to raise the federal minimum wage to $17 an hour. Congress has not passed a federal minimum wage increase since 2007 and it has been stuck at $7.25 an hour since 2009. Twenty-nine states now have higher minimum wage laws. But the federal minimum wage is the minimum wage in the other 21 states, which include Idaho, several Great Plains and Midwest states, and most of the South. The Economic Policy Institute estimates that 22.7 million workers earn the federal minimum wage.”
Why didn’t Biden do this when the Dems controlled the house and senate during his first two years ?



Biden priority was ensuring the livelihood of Americans after Trump 1.0 snafu of COVID. Why isn’t Trump doing it now? GOP controls all three branches - for now.
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Anonymous wrote:Right. So the fact that Republicans won the White House, House, Senate and more governorships is clearly an indication of a shift to the left. Survey says? NO. It is a clear rejection of the lurch to the left. Open your eyes…. Migration away from Blue states to Red is even more evidence as people are literally voting with their feet and their dollars. Private schools cannot meet the need as people flee disastrous public schools hijacked by unions. I mean honestly what are you even talking about. Good lord you are delusional.


Americans, especially those whose ancestors were LEGAL immigrants and became CITIZENS by following the LAW, are tired if our tax money wasted . We celebrate ICE, DOGE, President Trump & his Administration.


So if you were alive in the late 1930s in Germany you would agree with Hitler?
You know you have won the argument when the Dems bring up Hitler, it’s their desperation move after all their other meaningless insults.


Typical maga response. Maybe you should brush up on history. You may learn something.

You denigrate the millions of Nazi victims by even remotely equating Trump policies with Hitler.

You also shutoff any useful dialogue on current policy with this hyperbolic name calling. And, it’s very unlikely Dems get a clean sweep in the next election(s), so you might want to consider a different tack, assuming you actually want to see some progress in the future.


Not a democratic strategist so your point is??

And no name calling, just referring to the Nazis who were the party in charge in Germany.

Reading accounts from the holocaust, documentaries from when the Nazis were in power. Perhaps you should do the same and ask yourself why you and others refute the parallels so much. History repeats itself. Not a difficult concept to grasp.



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