APS Holiday 6/6

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:We are not so deep into this PIP that they can’t say “in the spirit of being more inclusive we have decided to offer excused absences for students and a personal observance day of leave for staff. This allows more people of faith to practice than the calendar can currently accommodate. “ I worked in a district that did this many years ago before anyone was focusing on this stuff. Many people used it for their birthday because in reality, there’s not that many devout people who take days off for holidays

The people who take off their birthday are the problem. That’s why we can’t have nice things. And I’m agnostic and would get no extra days off, so I’m the type of person who might whine that it’s unfair and I should get a day so I will take my cat’s birthday. But that screws up the whole system and is why we have to have all these holidays instead. Becuase we can’t trust people to be decent and honest about which holidays they celebrate when vacation time is on the line.

I don’t see this as such a problem…. I think it’s a good policy. Much better than the mess we the currently have. People of many faiths have days long celebrations multiple times a month. Does it matter if someone takes a single random day off, instead of being sick that day for example?

Everyone gets a nod, even the atheists

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Right now Memorial Day off and then they did teacher workday and then Wed off for Eid Al Adha. So next year if moves later instead of earlier and APS adds a day (as superintendent wanted to do this time originally as a no discussion item) will only have school Friday.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/sites/57/2024/01/2025-26-SCHOOL-YEAR-CALENDAR-FINAL.pdf

I think this is a good time to advocate for them to revise the pip. I’d like the religious holidays to go away completely (federal holidays only) because we can’t accommodate everyone and it’s already disruptive to the flow of the calendar and shortens summer vacation. That’s probably an unlikely goal but it’s reasonable to say your holiday doesn’t have a set date two years in advance sorry it doesn’t get included.

I want them to devise it at well. APS wants to be everything for everyone and it’s not practical.
This will happen again. Maybe doable with more foresight (they will block off 6 days going forward) but it seems the demands are just increasing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank you Turner and Clark!!! And Bethany too, for at least voting!

So is this right vote and summary for last night?

Superintendent-recommend to approve
Sutton-yes
Turner -no
Clark-no
Tapia-Hadley-abstain
Kadera-abstain

And from above post, the APS official that said APS did this before in 22-either was referencing when holiday was on a Saturday in 2022 or if in 2023 when kids were already out of school.

Next year the holiday is anticipated to be Wed after Mem Day so if calendar shifts to next day, will be 4 no school days that week (as APS already has Tues off too).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Right now Memorial Day off and then they did teacher workday and then Wed off for Eid Al Adha. So next year if moves later instead of earlier and APS adds a day (as superintendent wanted to do this time originally as a no discussion item) will only have school Friday.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/sites/57/2024/01/2025-26-SCHOOL-YEAR-CALENDAR-FINAL.pdf

I think this is a good time to advocate for them to revise the pip. I’d like the religious holidays to go away completely (federal holidays only) because we can’t accommodate everyone and it’s already disruptive to the flow of the calendar and shortens summer vacation. That’s probably an unlikely goal but it’s reasonable to say your holiday doesn’t have a set date two years in advance sorry it doesn’t get included.

I want them to devise it at well. APS wants to be everything for everyone and it’s not practical.
This will happen again. Maybe doable with more foresight (they will block off 6 days going forward) but it seems the demands are just increasing.

It’s how they could address the bus driver last night to so humbly asked for just a day that is not currently on calendar to go to church for his religion

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is any other district considering this? Why is APS doing this?

*EquItY*

Even Fairfax isn’t doing it. Not sure who decided to die on this hill at APS.

Syphax did. They wanted another paid holiday. But they didn’t get it this time.

No I think this is more about proving how progressive we are, rebuking Trump, getting DEI street cred. Operational efficiency was not mentioned so it wasn’t staff requesting off. They did not expect a fight which is why it wasn’t going to go up for a vote initially

These folks are detached from reality not understanding this would be a big deal. Which is not great.

Agreed. They moved this last minute to a no–consent item? Initially Duran (?) was just going to have this quietly approved?

They really have no idea what happens in school buildings, do they? They really thought they could cancel school 2 weeks before the end of the year without cancelling a ton of events that are important to people.

Reminds me of when we had a snow storm on a Thursday so they went ahead and closed school buildings all weekend. Not a single person at Syphax considered that would mean cancelling sports, a school play, cultural school, etc.

This is exactly why we need someone who has been a school employee on the school board. Anyone from janitor to principal can tell you how packed the last few weeks of school are.

+1

Dems messed up again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Right now Memorial Day off and then they did teacher workday and then Wed off for Eid Al Adha. So next year if moves later instead of earlier and APS adds a day (as superintendent wanted to do this time originally as a no discussion item) will only have school Friday.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/sites/57/2024/01/2025-26-SCHOOL-YEAR-CALENDAR-FINAL.pdf

I think this is a good time to advocate for them to revise the pip. I’d like the religious holidays to go away completely (federal holidays only) because we can’t accommodate everyone and it’s already disruptive to the flow of the calendar and shortens summer vacation. That’s probably an unlikely goal but it’s reasonable to say your holiday doesn’t have a set date two years in advance sorry it doesn’t get included.

I want them to devise it at well. APS wants to be everything for everyone and it’s not practical.
This will happen again. Maybe doable with more foresight (they will block off 6 days going forward) but it seems the demands are just increasing.

It’s how they could address the bus driver last night to so humbly asked for just a day that is not currently on calendar to go to church for his religion

The Ethiopian/Eritrean staff and student population has been large at every school I have worked in or sent my kids to. I’d like to know why Islam is getting more preference over them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you Turner and Clark!!! And Bethany too, for at least voting!

So is this right vote and summary for last night?

Superintendent-recommend to approve
Sutton-yes
Turner -no
Clark-no
Tapia-Hadley-abstain
Kadera-abstain

And from above post, the APS official that said APS did this before in 22-either was referencing when holiday was on a Saturday in 2022 or if in 2023 when kids were already out of school.

Next year the holiday is anticipated to be Wed after Mem Day so if calendar shifts to next day, will be 4 no school days that week (as APS already has Tues off too).

I think it happened before with the other Eid. I recall it being April when they added/moved the day off due to the moon? But maybe I’m wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you Turner and Clark!!! And Bethany too, for at least voting!

So is this right vote and summary for last night?

Superintendent-recommend to approve
Sutton-yes
Turner -no
Clark-no
Tapia-Hadley-abstain
Kadera-abstain

And from above post, the APS official that said APS did this before in 22-either was referencing when holiday was on a Saturday in 2022 or if in 2023 when kids were already out of school.

Next year the holiday is anticipated to be Wed after Mem Day so if calendar shifts to next day, will be 4 no school days that week (as APS already has Tues off too).

I think it happened before with the other Eid. I recall it being April when they added/moved the day off due to the moon? But maybe I’m wrong.

It did and at least one person acknowledged that was less disruptive to the calendar

[Anonymous]

It's easy to abstain when you're on the way out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you Turner and Clark!!! And Bethany too, for at least voting!

So is this right vote and summary for last night?

Superintendent-recommend to approve
Sutton-yes
Turner -no
Clark-no
Tapia-Hadley-abstain
Kadera-abstain

And from above post, the APS official that said APS did this before in 22-either was referencing when holiday was on a Saturday in 2022 or if in 2023 when kids were already out of school.

Next year the holiday is anticipated to be Wed after Mem Day so if calendar shifts to next day, will be 4 no school days that week (as APS already has Tues off too).

I think it happened before with the other Eid. I recall it being April when they added/moved the day off due to the moon? But maybe I’m wrong.

It did and at least one person acknowledged that was less disruptive to the calendar

That’s what I remember too. Also more people were working from home then so less likely to notice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you Turner and Clark!!! And Bethany too, for at least voting!

So is this right vote and summary for last night?

Superintendent-recommend to approve
Sutton-yes
Turner -no
Clark-no
Tapia-Hadley-abstain
Kadera-abstain

And from above post, the APS official that said APS did this before in 22-either was referencing when holiday was on a Saturday in 2022 or if in 2023 when kids were already out of school.

Next year the holiday is anticipated to be Wed after Mem Day so if calendar shifts to next day, will be 4 no school days that week (as APS already has Tues off too).

I think it happened before with the other Eid. I recall it being April when they added/moved the day off due to the moon? But maybe I’m wrong.

It was 2022. Moved from a Tuesday to a Monday.

At the April 7 meeting, the School Board approved an adjustment to the APS calendar making Mon, May 2, a no school day for students and a holiday for staff instead of Tue, May 3, as currently listed on the 2021-22 school year calendar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you Turner and Clark!!! And Bethany too, for at least voting!

So is this right vote and summary for last night?

Superintendent-recommend to approve
Sutton-yes
Turner -no
Clark-no
Tapia-Hadley-abstain
Kadera-abstain

And from above post, the APS official that said APS did this before in 22-either was referencing when holiday was on a Saturday in 2022 or if in 2023 when kids were already out of school.

Next year the holiday is anticipated to be Wed after Mem Day so if calendar shifts to next day, will be 4 no school days that week (as APS already has Tues off too).

I think it happened before with the other Eid. I recall it being April when they added/moved the day off due to the moon? But maybe I’m wrong.

It did and at least one person acknowledged that was less disruptive to the calendar

Was already on the calendar as a holiday for that Monday so wouldn’t have been then, but calling myself out that not worth debating, what is worth discussion is what they will do going forward. Abstaining is not the solution for sure and need decisions that are for all thr kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you Turner and Clark!!! And Bethany too, for at least voting!

So is this right vote and summary for last night?

Superintendent-recommend to approve
Sutton-yes
Turner -no
Clark-no
Tapia-Hadley-abstain
Kadera-abstain

And from above post, the APS official that said APS did this before in 22-either was referencing when holiday was on a Saturday in 2022 or if in 2023 when kids were already out of school.

Next year the holiday is anticipated to be Wed after Mem Day so if calendar shifts to next day, will be 4 no school days that week (as APS already has Tues off too).

I think it happened before with the other Eid. I recall it being April when they added/moved the day off due to the moon? But maybe I’m wrong.

Found it. They moved from a Tues off to a Mon off.

From an email in April 2022: “ Calendar Change for Eid Religious Holiday Approved
At the April 7 meeting, the School Board approved an adjustment to the APS calendar making Mon, May 2, a no school day for students and a holiday for staff instead of Tue, May 3, as currently listed on the 2021-22 school year calendar. View the updated calendar online.”

[Anonymous]

We need to get rid of the religious holiday closures in the schedule. It picks winners and losers and pits people against each other. It makes more sense to let people take their own holidays off than have everyone take every holiday off. Yes, I’m willing to decouple Easter from Spring Break and schedule school on Christmas if that would make you feel better about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is any other district considering this? Why is APS doing this?

*EquItY*

Even Fairfax isn’t doing it. Not sure who decided to die on this hill at APS.

Syphax did. They wanted another paid holiday. But they didn’t get it this time.

No I think this is more about proving how progressive we are, rebuking Trump, getting DEI street cred. Operational efficiency was not mentioned so it wasn’t staff requesting off. They did not expect a fight which is why it wasn’t going to go up for a vote initially

These folks are detached from reality not understanding this would be a big deal. Which is not great.

Agreed. They moved this last minute to a no–consent item? Initially Duran (?) was just going to have this quietly approved?

They really have no idea what happens in school buildings, do they? They really thought they could cancel school 2 weeks before the end of the year without cancelling a ton of events that are important to people.

Reminds me of when we had a snow storm on a Thursday so they went ahead and closed school buildings all weekend. Not a single person at Syphax considered that would mean cancelling sports, a school play, cultural school, etc.

This is exactly why we need someone who has been a school employee on the school board. Anyone from janitor to principal can tell you how packed the last few weeks of school are.

+1

Dems messed up again.

Fck off