Yondr pouch pilot program at some MS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everyone thinks their child is not using their phone. Your good kid is sneaking their phone.

-teacher (who knows his ‘good’ kid is sneaking his phone even though he has a strong GPA and teachers have never mentioned it/caught it. They’re addictive.)

Probably true, but my kid claims you (the teacher) told him he could do so the last week of school or when he is done all of his assignments.

I’m not so sure he is “sneaking it” as much are you are saying it is ok.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone thinks their child is not using their phone. Your good kid is sneaking their phone.

-teacher (who knows his ‘good’ kid is sneaking his phone even though he has a strong GPA and teachers have never mentioned it/caught it. They’re addictive.)

Probably true, but my kid claims you (the teacher) told him he could do so the last week of school or when he is done all of his assignments.

I’m not so sure he is “sneaking it” as much are you are saying it is ok.

Not this teacher. I even asked your kid to leave it when he went to the restroom. I didn’t search him so I don’t know what he did though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No issues at all after the first day when kids panicked. Once they realized they had plenty of time to unlock and still make their buses, it hasn't been an issue. We have unlocking stations at 4 different building exits and multiple locations within the building.

If concerts of 10,000+ people can make it work, it was always going to be fine in schools of 1000.

Yeah I wouldn’t go to a concert with 10k locking up phones. So only the people who want that attend. Unlike school where everyone has to go.

I kind of think with Covid going around again cluster all the kids at the unlock station is dumb and encouraging closer than normal contact but maybe it is fine.

I wish they would concentrate more on keeping guns out of schools than the effort to get phones silenced.

Why not both? It's not an either or.

They seem to be concentrating on the one. And spending lots of money on that.

I scoffed (internally) when the principal said that Law enforcement officers don’t want kids texting during emergency situations because they want to handle communications. I guess it would make it easier for them to stand around and do nothing like they did in Uvlade. I personally would like to have contact with my kid in that situation.

I would prefer the pouches to be given as a punishment to kids who weren’t following away for the day policies rather than jumping to using them for everyone. It might be enough of a scarlet letter for a kid to have carry a pouch around all day that it would be a deterrent to the away for a day rule breakers.

Sounds like you don't understand either problem.

Funny, you can only come up with an insult rather than educating me.

Uvalde police DIDN”T GO IN THE SCHOOL WHERE THE SHOOTER WAS. I had to call the police on my Dad because he was abusing me, they did nothing. I don’t trust the police to always make the right choice.

I would like my kid to be able to contact me. I tell him to zig zag run if he thinks he can get out of the school safely. Hiding in a corner does nothing. As a teacher, I had a parent who was in the FBI and they were adamant that I tell the kids in my class to run because it is the best policy (of course I couldn’t/wouldn’t). She studied this for a living and told her kid to run. I did too.

Police and authorities want control over the situation. I want my kid alive more.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No issues at all after the first day when kids panicked. Once they realized they had plenty of time to unlock and still make their buses, it hasn't been an issue. We have unlocking stations at 4 different building exits and multiple locations within the building.

If concerts of 10,000+ people can make it work, it was always going to be fine in schools of 1000.

Yeah I wouldn’t go to a concert with 10k locking up phones. So only the people who want that attend. Unlike school where everyone has to go.

I kind of think with Covid going around again cluster all the kids at the unlock station is dumb and encouraging closer than normal contact but maybe it is fine.

I wish they would concentrate more on keeping guns out of schools than the effort to get phones silenced.

Why not both? It's not an either or.

They seem to be concentrating on the one. And spending lots of money on that.

I scoffed (internally) when the principal said that Law enforcement officers don’t want kids texting during emergency situations because they want to handle communications. I guess it would make it easier for them to stand around and do nothing like they did in Uvlade. I personally would like to have contact with my kid in that situation.

I would prefer the pouches to be given as a punishment to kids who weren’t following away for the day policies rather than jumping to using them for everyone. It might be enough of a scarlet letter for a kid to have carry a pouch around all day that it would be a deterrent to the away for a day rule breakers.

Sounds like you don't understand either problem.

Funny, you can only come up with an insult rather than educating me.

Uvalde police DIDN”T GO IN THE SCHOOL WHERE THE SHOOTER WAS. I had to call the police on my Dad because he was abusing me, they did nothing. I don’t trust the police to always make the right choice.

I would like my kid to be able to contact me. I tell him to zig zag run if he thinks he can get out of the school safely. Hiding in a corner does nothing. As a teacher, I had a parent who was in the FBI and they were adamant that I tell the kids in my class to run because it is the best policy (of course I couldn’t/wouldn’t). She studied this for a living and told her kid to run. I did too.

Police and authorities want control over the situation. I want my kid alive more.

It sounds like you need to homeschool your child and get some help.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No issues at all after the first day when kids panicked. Once they realized they had plenty of time to unlock and still make their buses, it hasn't been an issue. We have unlocking stations at 4 different building exits and multiple locations within the building.

If concerts of 10,000+ people can make it work, it was always going to be fine in schools of 1000.

Yeah I wouldn’t go to a concert with 10k locking up phones. So only the people who want that attend. Unlike school where everyone has to go.

I kind of think with Covid going around again cluster all the kids at the unlock station is dumb and encouraging closer than normal contact but maybe it is fine.

I wish they would concentrate more on keeping guns out of schools than the effort to get phones silenced.

Why not both? It's not an either or.

They seem to be concentrating on the one. And spending lots of money on that.

I scoffed (internally) when the principal said that Law enforcement officers don’t want kids texting during emergency situations because they want to handle communications. I guess it would make it easier for them to stand around and do nothing like they did in Uvlade. I personally would like to have contact with my kid in that situation.

I would prefer the pouches to be given as a punishment to kids who weren’t following away for the day policies rather than jumping to using them for everyone. It might be enough of a scarlet letter for a kid to have carry a pouch around all day that it would be a deterrent to the away for a day rule breakers.

Sounds like you don't understand either problem.

Funny, you can only come up with an insult rather than educating me.

Uvalde police DIDN”T GO IN THE SCHOOL WHERE THE SHOOTER WAS. I had to call the police on my Dad because he was abusing me, they did nothing. I don’t trust the police to always make the right choice.

I would like my kid to be able to contact me. I tell him to zig zag run if he thinks he can get out of the school safely. Hiding in a corner does nothing. As a teacher, I had a parent who was in the FBI and they were adamant that I tell the kids in my class to run because it is the best policy (of course I couldn’t/wouldn’t). She studied this for a living and told her kid to run. I did too.

Police and authorities want control over the situation. I want my kid alive more.

It sounds like you need to homeschool your child and get some help.

Or maybe, you don’t do lockdown drills and you have never had to think about what would actually happen in an emergency situation, so you defensively try to paint me as silly and “in need of help.”

Thinking through the situation, I would vastly prefer my kid to be able to text me and having been in a serious evacuation situation with children, I know the chaos that ensues. If you think otherwise, you probably haven’t thought about the fear kids feel when they are hunkered down huddling in a class. You probably also haven’t thought about how they move kids to a new site and you have to pick your kid up from some random church or building if the building is ever evacuated. The drive from your work, to get your kid will go much better if you have texted with your child and know they are in the safe location.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No issues at all after the first day when kids panicked. Once they realized they had plenty of time to unlock and still make their buses, it hasn't been an issue. We have unlocking stations at 4 different building exits and multiple locations within the building.

If concerts of 10,000+ people can make it work, it was always going to be fine in schools of 1000.

Yeah I wouldn’t go to a concert with 10k locking up phones. So only the people who want that attend. Unlike school where everyone has to go.

I kind of think with Covid going around again cluster all the kids at the unlock station is dumb and encouraging closer than normal contact but maybe it is fine.

I wish they would concentrate more on keeping guns out of schools than the effort to get phones silenced.

Why not both? It's not an either or.

They seem to be concentrating on the one. And spending lots of money on that.

I scoffed (internally) when the principal said that Law enforcement officers don’t want kids texting during emergency situations because they want to handle communications. I guess it would make it easier for them to stand around and do nothing like they did in Uvlade. I personally would like to have contact with my kid in that situation.

I would prefer the pouches to be given as a punishment to kids who weren’t following away for the day policies rather than jumping to using them for everyone. It might be enough of a scarlet letter for a kid to have carry a pouch around all day that it would be a deterrent to the away for a day rule breakers.

Sounds like you don't understand either problem.

Funny, you can only come up with an insult rather than educating me.

Uvalde police DIDN”T GO IN THE SCHOOL WHERE THE SHOOTER WAS. I had to call the police on my Dad because he was abusing me, they did nothing. I don’t trust the police to always make the right choice.

I would like my kid to be able to contact me. I tell him to zig zag run if he thinks he can get out of the school safely. Hiding in a corner does nothing. As a teacher, I had a parent who was in the FBI and they were adamant that I tell the kids in my class to run because it is the best policy (of course I couldn’t/wouldn’t). She studied this for a living and told her kid to run. I did too.

Police and authorities want control over the situation. I want my kid alive more.

It sounds like you need to homeschool your child and get some help.

Or maybe, you don’t do lockdown drills and you have never had to think about what would actually happen in an emergency situation, so you defensively try to paint me as silly and “in need of help.”

Thinking through the situation, I would vastly prefer my kid to be able to text me and having been in a serious evacuation situation with children, I know the chaos that ensues. If you think otherwise, you probably haven’t thought about the fear kids feel when they are hunkered down huddling in a class. You probably also haven’t thought about how they move kids to a new site and you have to pick your kid up from some random church or building if the building is ever evacuated. The drive from your work, to get your kid will go much better if you have texted with your child and know they are in the safe location.

To be honest, I’d be a wreck even if my kid had texted to say they’re in a safe location.

So I’m still fine with no phones at school.

[Anonymous]

My principal was clear that in a true emergency the pouches can be cut open.

But really, phones ruin classrooms 100% of days and true emergencies are exceedingly rare. Worth the trade off, IMO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My principal was clear that in a true emergency the pouches can be cut open.

But really, phones ruin classrooms 100% of days and true emergencies are exceedingly rare. Worth the trade off, IMO.

I disagree on it being worth the trade-off but I do think/hope that kids will break out their creativity for cutting/prying/deactivating the pouch in an emergency. I feel confident that $18 won't be charged if the emergency is an active shooter. If the emergency is needing a ride home after the school doors are closed, I don't trust the school not to charge me. And I worry about the kid who walks home in the dark rather than risk getting in trouble for destroying the pouch. Safety is more important than the school's need for fancy enforcement. Just prohibit the use of cell phones during the day without creating new problems.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My principal was clear that in a true emergency the pouches can be cut open.

But really, phones ruin classrooms 100% of days and true emergencies are exceedingly rare. Worth the trade off, IMO.

I disagree on it being worth the trade-off but I do think/hope that kids will break out their creativity for cutting/prying/deactivating the pouch in an emergency. I feel confident that $18 won't be charged if the emergency is an active shooter. If the emergency is needing a ride home after the school doors are closed, I don't trust the school not to charge me. And I worry about the kid who walks home in the dark rather than risk getting in trouble for destroying the pouch. Safety is more important than the school's need for fancy enforcement. Just prohibit the use of cell phones during the day without creating new problems.

Why would the kid sill have his phone locked after leaving school? Like he forgot to unlock it and the school was closed already and every other single person had left the area before he realized it? Seems unlikely

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My principal was clear that in a true emergency the pouches can be cut open.

But really, phones ruin classrooms 100% of days and true emergencies are exceedingly rare. Worth the trade off, IMO.

I disagree on it being worth the trade-off but I do think/hope that kids will break out their creativity for cutting/prying/deactivating the pouch in an emergency. I feel confident that $18 won't be charged if the emergency is an active shooter. If the emergency is needing a ride home after the school doors are closed, I don't trust the school not to charge me. And I worry about the kid who walks home in the dark rather than risk getting in trouble for destroying the pouch. Safety is more important than the school's need for fancy enforcement. Just prohibit the use of cell phones during the day without creating new problems.

I think Amazon sells the magnet to open them. By one for your kid in case of emergency.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My principal was clear that in a true emergency the pouches can be cut open.

But really, phones ruin classrooms 100% of days and true emergencies are exceedingly rare. Worth the trade off, IMO.

I disagree on it being worth the trade-off but I do think/hope that kids will break out their creativity for cutting/prying/deactivating the pouch in an emergency. I feel confident that $18 won't be charged if the emergency is an active shooter. If the emergency is needing a ride home after the school doors are closed, I don't trust the school not to charge me. And I worry about the kid who walks home in the dark rather than risk getting in trouble for destroying the pouch. Safety is more important than the school's need for fancy enforcement. Just prohibit the use of cell phones during the day without creating new problems.

Huh? Quite the scenarios.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My principal was clear that in a true emergency the pouches can be cut open.

But really, phones ruin classrooms 100% of days and true emergencies are exceedingly rare. Worth the trade off, IMO.

I disagree on it being worth the trade-off but I do think/hope that kids will break out their creativity for cutting/prying/deactivating the pouch in an emergency. I feel confident that $18 won't be charged if the emergency is an active shooter. If the emergency is needing a ride home after the school doors are closed, I don't trust the school not to charge me. And I worry about the kid who walks home in the dark rather than risk getting in trouble for destroying the pouch. Safety is more important than the school's need for fancy enforcement. Just prohibit the use of cell phones during the day without creating new problems.

A little far fetched that every single other person around the kid would have also forgotten to unlock their pouch too.

And if they did - surely kids survived such occasions in the dark ages when we all grew up without phones. They will again.

[Anonymous]

This thread has made me realize that while I consider myself an anxious parent/human being, some are waaaaaay beyond that.

Or maybe they’re just angry that they have to play by school rules instead of school following their rules.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:My principal was clear that in a true emergency the pouches can be cut open.

But really, phones ruin classrooms 100% of days and true emergencies are exceedingly rare. Worth the trade off, IMO.

I disagree on it being worth the trade-off but I do think/hope that kids will break out their creativity for cutting/prying/deactivating the pouch in an emergency. I feel confident that $18 won't be charged if the emergency is an active shooter. If the emergency is needing a ride home after the school doors are closed, I don't trust the school not to charge me. And I worry about the kid who walks home in the dark rather than risk getting in trouble for destroying the pouch. Safety is more important than the school's need for fancy enforcement. Just prohibit the use of cell phones during the day without creating new problems.

Huh? Quite the scenarios.

Seriously? A kid forgetting to go by the scanner and a mixup on who is doing pickup after school is not only plausible, it is the most predictable of mini-emergencies. It happened to me growing up and to my husband and oodles of other kids. He walked three miles home, and I sat in front of the school and cried until someone remembered me. Yeah, we both survived, but it was not a good thing and not something a school should be causing when there is a simple, free alternative that doesn’t create these issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread has made me realize that while I consider myself an anxious parent/human being, some are waaaaaay beyond that.

Or maybe they’re just angry that they have to play by school rules instead of school following their rules.

Every year I have parented in the public school system, my faith in the school placing the interests of the students over its own interest has dropped. It’s my job to look out for my kid, and sometimes rejecting the school’s rules is the best way to do that.