Anyone following this Candice Miller/Mama & Tata nightmare?

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Anonymous wrote:She’s a very unattractive woman. Can’t imagine the degrees of delusion it took for her to hold herself out on social media as someone with an enviable lifestyle.

I think she’s gorgeous.

She looks like a larger (I don't mean heavy, just taller/not as crazy skinny!) version of the lady in the Sex Life show on Netflix to me.

Candice is short. Thin and short. I think she’s beautiful. I wish I didn’t think this but I think she looks better after all her 800 facials and Botox etc. She does look different irl when she’s not angling her face/body. Still good but different.

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Anonymous wrote:I truly can’t believe this story. I knew who she was years before this because of her family connection to Arielle Charnas but I never followed her because her life seemed too good to be true. Truly perfect in a way that is not relatable at all. She herself is gorgeous and so skinny. 2 cute kids, a super rich and successful husband who lives to spoil her endlessly. They lived more like billionaires than any other influencers on Arielle’s level. I assumed it was all family and real estate money. I believed the fantasy 100%.

I feel so sad for her.

Gorgeous , my ass.

+1. She's not attractive at all. She dresses up to mask her plainness, but she's a 4 or a 5 at best. Very basic Long Island JAP looks.

Money doesn't buy good looks.Even with the accoutrements, she's barely a 4 by NYC standards. To think this is the woman a man didn't have the courage to talk about the true state of the family's finances is mind-boggling.

You are a misogynistic ass.

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t get any life insurance if it’s suicide. That would mean that anyone could take out large amounts and just off theirselves the next day. She won’t get a fine if that life insurance

People keep saying that and it’s simply not true. It depends on the policy, but most have a two-year rule for suicide. As long as he took out the policy at least two years before his death, it would likely pay out. He seemed smart enough to check that provision before he ended his life.

Yes. Everyone keeps repeating it because they're probably used to cases where someone buys a life insurance plan intending to commit suicide and then tries to make it look like not suicide so their family can collect. It's completely different if you had a plan for 2+ years and just happen to commit suicide sometime thereafter. Some investors require principals to have life insurance, so he probably had it for his job for years and years (it's also much cheaper if you buy it young), long before he ever contemplated suicide. It's not the same thing and it will almost certainly pay out.

It's been argued before that writing about the insurance pay out in the suicide note is indicative of fraud and it's a lucid, calculated move and not mentally unfit. Look it up.

DP. I tried to look this up but all I could find is the waiting period. If you commit suicide you commit suicide regardless of intent. You’re actually dead, not fraudulently dead. I couldn’t find any stories about purpose of intent for suicide mattering, but would be curious if that is out there.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or is $15m not going to last her very long anyway?

They owned property in FL too. FL state laws will protect the primary home from creditors. I wonder if that home was paid for? Could she live off the interest of $15M. Probably not.

I know enough to be dangerous off 15 minutes of google but I think it has to be a primary residence to count.

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It was a house of cards. Very sad for the children.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or is $15m not going to last her very long anyway?

They owned property in FL too. FL state laws will protect the primary home from creditors. I wonder if that home was paid for? Could she live off the interest of $15M. Probably not.

I know enough to be dangerous off 15 minutes of google but I think it has to be a primary residence to count.

I heard she was in Miami but staying with friends. I also heard she used a pricey PR team to help her with the NYT interview, which she provided background for.

She is not sympathetic in the least. She knew they were overextended. She tried to charter their repossessed boat, Please!

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many of you status-and-wealth-obsessed fools on DCUM a year ago would have praised her to the skies for having "class" or elegance or good taste.

You are really misreading DCUM…

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many of you status-and-wealth-obsessed fools on DCUM a year ago would have praised her to the skies for having "class" or elegance or good taste.

You are really misreading DCUM…

Agreed. DCUM would have skewered this vapid lady and her grotesque displays of wealth and privilage.

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I met her many times and she was nothing but aloof. Sweet but aloof. I am friends with her friend and all I can say is this. If your friend knew it was smokey mirrors , then she knew

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I think people who have a spending problem often just don't care they have a spending problem. I do not know any wealthy people on that level, but I do have people in my family and entourage who have overspent in ridiculous ways for their income and paid the price for it later on. I knew this as it was happening, so I am sure they themselves had to know.

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Anonymous wrote:I think people who have a spending problem often just don't care they have a spending problem. I do not know any wealthy people on that level, but I do have people in my family and entourage who have overspent in ridiculous ways for their income and paid the price for it later on. I knew this as it was happening, so I am sure they themselves had to know.

I know people like that but they are soft in the head and would take others down with them. Can't fix it, just staying out of it going forward.

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Anonymous wrote:As others have predicted, she will remarry into money. This is the crowd she's been running in for years. She'll be fine.

They scammed these people though...

If she was part of the scam, then she is able to make people believe her stories. She is young and pretty enough with a tragic angle to play up to turn the head of some super rich man regardless. Remarried inside of three years is my prediction.

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Anonymous wrote:I met her many times and she was nothing but aloof. Sweet but aloof. I am friends with her friend and all I can say is this. If your friend knew it was smokey mirrors , then she knew

So your mutual friend knew they didn’t have nearly as much money as she acted like they did? Did others in her circle know too? And did they drop her because of it, or did they play along? It seems like some of their issues were an open secret for a couple of years.

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Anonymous wrote:Could someone familiar with life insurance law chime in. If the family receives the life insurance money, won’t creditors insist the money go towards Mr. Miller’s debts?

No. Life insurance claims pass outside the estate and go directly to the beneficiary and creditors have no claim. She will get to keep. LI is meant to replace income.

Is she has creditors then they can get the life insurance

So it depends on whether she was personally liable for any of their debts. If she really didn’t know anything about their dire financial state, she probably wasn’t on those debts.

How could she not be on them? Some of it is for the furniture she used daily. And they were married. Ignorance is not an excuse unless it's a separate business account.

It sounds like he was the only one with income (or perceived income). So it’s possible he accrued the debt in his name alone, secured by his own (assets? Income? Fraud?).

Seems wild though that she could live this lavish lifestyle, have all debt erased, and come out with $15M. Just crazy all around.

I mean, he had to literally die. I don’t think that $15m is exactly a windfall.

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I would feel better about it if I knew how much the Instagram brought in. If it was a lot, well, then at least you’re sacrificing your privacy for good money. You still shouldn’t use your children though.