Do Christmas displays make you uncomfortable?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No, haven't seen any holiday display which makes me "uncomfortable." Even the Halloween displays.

Actually some of those can be out of hand. Headless dead people…skeletons meh I can do without

Who made you God and Ruler? You don't get to dictate what someone puts in their yard and I would support anyone who fought someone trying to do this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is much ignorance about the state of the constitutional law as it applies to Christmas celebrations in the public schools. To cut to the chase—they are permitted.

School officials cannot ban voluntary, student-led religious activity at Christmastime. Students cannot be punished for singing Christmas carols, distributing Christmas cards, wearing red and green, giving Christmas presents, writing Christmas poems, giving speeches paying tribute to Jesus, etc.

No federal court has ever ruled that Christmas must be censored in the public schools.

A PP described a teacher-led Christmas gift exchange class activity. That's what I take issue with. That's not kids deciding to singing carols. That's an authority figure telling non-Christian students to participate in a Christmas activity in class.

No teacher forces students to participate. Teachers have constant contact with parents via email, as well as a dedicated portal that informs parents daily/weekly of upcoming activities and projects. There’s no teacher using their authority to force students to do anything. There was a troll in the earlier pages that claimed to be a teacher who told students there was no Santa; that was transparently false. Teachers have been informed about the correct ways to deal with holidays. Decorations and activities meet district standards.

The students in our district learn about a wide range of holiday traditions from many cultures/religions from around the world.

Students can exchange gifts without teachers coordinating anything, btw. It’s not like names are drawn and each child has to bring a Christmas gift to school.

Imagine being so tightly wound that children enjoying the holiday season sets you off?

Is the teacher-led gift exchange done during class time? If I opt my Jewish kid out, do they just sit there while everyone else participates? Do you not see how that is problematic?

The same thing happens with sex ed. Parents can opt out and their kids go do something else. You and these parents are choosing to exclude their children. You do it because you are nuts and think the teachers/admin are trying to tempt your children to the Christian religion. That's crazy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why or why not?

I'm not Christian but I know that others are and respect their beliefs just like I expect others to respect mine.

That being said, I do enjoy looking ar tastefully and minimalist Christmas decor, not a fan of inflatables and environmentally unfriendly or over the top excessive decor.

What I really dislike is ugly Halloween decor but to each its own.

Exactly - to each their own. I love Halloween and Thanksgiving decor and help my friends put theirs up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And I love Christmas lights in winter. Let there be light. However, don't overload the grid.

Actually the lights Americans so callously display can harm wildlife. But don’t let that stop you from a wasteful and offensive display.

But your diwali lights are fine, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would also think displaying Christmas decorations in public can be hurtful to those not privileged enough to celebrate in the same manner.

This is such a childish, immature way of looking at things. I grew up poor. I loved seeing everyone else's fancy holiday decorations. There is always someone who has more and there will always be people who are poor. Lots of people adapt and make their own decorations.

+1 When I was growing up, we had a string of lights for our plastic tree plus hand-me-down ornaments. No outside lights. And my brother and I had a lot of fun making paper snowflakes to decorate the rest of the living room. It didn't even occur to me that we could put lights outside or decorate more elaborately, even though other people did.

You and your brother making snowflakes is a beautiful memory pp, and you rightfully cherish that memory.

The best celebrations are the celebrations we have with people who are in our hearts and lives. You are blessed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would also think displaying Christmas decorations in public can be hurtful to those not privileged enough to celebrate in the same manner.

I think people (especially kids) who don’t have such things at home love decorations they see in public.

They aren’t hurt by it, it brings them joy!

What a frightfully elitist comment to make.

I’m sure the underprivileged will enjoy smelling your Thanksgiving dinner because the odor “brings them joy”.

Shame on you.

Shame on you with your ridiculous arguments. Did you grow up in France during the Revolution? There are always people who have less and that does not mean we all have to wear sack cloth and moan because of it. Even poor people won't support the bull you are trying to sell.

Now you habe ruined PP's traditional holiday garb. Are you happy with yourself?

I promise I am beating myself and feeling horrible for appropriating pp's clothing. Guess it's nakedness now and holy cow, you would all rather look at mangers and Christmas lights.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The shoeboxes are delivered and fully used for indoctrination. Not everyone wants to participate in such "missions".

Pls show some - any! - evidence of this practice.

This is straight from their website, its literally a mission.
"Praising God for 30 Years of Operation Christmas Child"

"What is Operation Christmas Child?

The mission of Operation Christmas Child is to demonstrate God’s love in a tangible way to children in need around the world. Through this project, Samaritan’s Purse partners with the local church worldwide to share the Good News of Jesus Christ and make disciples of the nations."

"The Amazing Journey of a Shoebox Gift Begins with You and Results in Evangelism, Discipleship, and Multiplication."

Disgusting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The shoeboxes are delivered and fully used for indoctrination. Not everyone wants to participate in such "missions".

There’s nothing illegal with evangelizing and helping to bring others to the light of Christ. As important is that Kindness is also worthy in its own right.

It’s unethical to bribe kids (or other vulnerable people) with gifts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is much ignorance about the state of the constitutional law as it applies to Christmas celebrations in the public schools. To cut to the chase—they are permitted.

School officials cannot ban voluntary, student-led religious activity at Christmastime. Students cannot be punished for singing Christmas carols, distributing Christmas cards, wearing red and green, giving Christmas presents, writing Christmas poems, giving speeches paying tribute to Jesus, etc.

No federal court has ever ruled that Christmas must be censored in the public schools.

A PP described a teacher-led Christmas gift exchange class activity. That's what I take issue with. That's not kids deciding to singing carols. That's an authority figure telling non-Christian students to participate in a Christmas activity in class.

No teacher forces students to participate. Teachers have constant contact with parents via email, as well as a dedicated portal that informs parents daily/weekly of upcoming activities and projects. There’s no teacher using their authority to force students to do anything. There was a troll in the earlier pages that claimed to be a teacher who told students there was no Santa; that was transparently false. Teachers have been informed about the correct ways to deal with holidays. Decorations and activities meet district standards.

The students in our district learn about a wide range of holiday traditions from many cultures/religions from around the world.

Students can exchange gifts without teachers coordinating anything, btw. It’s not like names are drawn and each child has to bring a Christmas gift to school.

Imagine being so tightly wound that children enjoying the holiday season sets you off?

Is the teacher-led gift exchange done during class time? If I opt my Jewish kid out, do they just sit there while everyone else participates? Do you not see how that is problematic?

The same thing happens with sex ed. Parents can opt out and their kids go do something else. You and these parents are choosing to exclude their children. You do it because you are nuts and think the teachers/admin are trying to tempt your children to the Christian religion. That's crazy.

I wouldn't opt my Jewish kids out of a gift exchange (like I said in a previous post, I'd wrap gifts in Chanukah paper and call it a day), but I don't think it's so wild to opt out, and I don't understand why you're so bothered by the idea that Jews might not want to have their kids engage in Christmas celebration in public school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would also think displaying Christmas decorations in public can be hurtful to those not privileged enough to celebrate in the same manner.

This is such a childish, immature way of looking at things. I grew up poor. I loved seeing everyone else's fancy holiday decorations. There is always someone who has more and there will always be people who are poor. Lots of people adapt and make their own decorations.

No. Outdoor displays throw it in people’s faces. Even worse, if the displays are contaminated with religion, they will be noninclusive and sow division.
But hey if this how you wish to id yourself have at it.

So if I have a car that is more expensive or nicer than any single other person on the planet, I can't drive it. If my clothes are nicer or more expensive that someone else's on the planet, I can't wear them. If my food is nicer or more expensive than any other person's on the planet, I can not eat it... I can go on forever with this. You are ridiculous and immature. The rest of the world does not stop because of what someone doesn't have. Your extreme socialism is ridiculous. The only logical way to appease you is if everyone in the world puts every single thing with any value at all in a pile and it is distributed 100% equally across the world.

You need to go read more history.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All will know The Almighty God

Find him in the basement of Comet Ping Pong?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The shoeboxes are delivered and fully used for indoctrination. Not everyone wants to participate in such "missions".

Pls show some - any! - evidence of this practice.

This is straight from their website, its literally a mission.
"Praising God for 30 Years of Operation Christmas Child"

"What is Operation Christmas Child?

The mission of Operation Christmas Child is to demonstrate God’s love in a tangible way to children in need around the world. Through this project, Samaritan’s Purse partners with the local church worldwide to share the Good News of Jesus Christ and make disciples of the nations."

"The Amazing Journey of a Shoebox Gift Begins with You and Results in Evangelism, Discipleship, and Multiplication."

Disgusting.

There is nothing wrong by showing people the love God instructs those who love Him to have for our brothers and sisters.

Let me guess: if Christians do nothing- they are hypocrites. If they do things to show love to others, they are disgusting.

People are allowed to put their time, money, and effort into showing others they are religious, doing things their religion/God asks them to do, and telling others about their relationship with God.

If you don’t like it, fine, but there is nothing disgusting about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The shoeboxes are delivered and fully used for indoctrination. Not everyone wants to participate in such "missions".

Pls show some - any! - evidence of this practice.

This is straight from their website, its literally a mission.
"Praising God for 30 Years of Operation Christmas Child"

"What is Operation Christmas Child?

The mission of Operation Christmas Child is to demonstrate God’s love in a tangible way to children in need around the world. Through this project, Samaritan’s Purse partners with the local church worldwide to share the Good News of Jesus Christ and make disciples of the nations."

"The Amazing Journey of a Shoebox Gift Begins with You and Results in Evangelism, Discipleship, and Multiplication."

Disgusting.

There is nothing wrong by showing people the love God instructs those who love Him to have for our brothers and sisters.

Let me guess: if Christians do nothing- they are hypocrites. If they do things to show love to others, they are disgusting.

People are allowed to put their time, money, and effort into showing others they are religious, doing things their religion/God asks them to do, and telling others about their relationship with God.

If you don’t like it, fine, but there is nothing disgusting about it.

Using bribes with young/vulnerable people is unethical.

If you want to help people, go ahead. But keep your religion to yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The shoeboxes are delivered and fully used for indoctrination. Not everyone wants to participate in such "missions".

Pls show some - any! - evidence of this practice.

This is straight from their website, its literally a mission.
"Praising God for 30 Years of Operation Christmas Child"

"What is Operation Christmas Child?

The mission of Operation Christmas Child is to demonstrate God’s love in a tangible way to children in need around the world. Through this project, Samaritan’s Purse partners with the local church worldwide to share the Good News of Jesus Christ and make disciples of the nations."

"The Amazing Journey of a Shoebox Gift Begins with You and Results in Evangelism, Discipleship, and Multiplication."

Disgusting.

There is nothing wrong by showing people the love God instructs those who love Him to have for our brothers and sisters.

Let me guess: if Christians do nothing- they are hypocrites. If they do things to show love to others, they are disgusting.

People are allowed to put their time, money, and effort into showing others they are religious, doing things their religion/God asks them to do, and telling others about their relationship with God.

If you don’t like it, fine, but there is nothing disgusting about it.

Using bribes with young/vulnerable people is unethical.

If you want to help people, go ahead. But keep your religion to yourself.

Who are you quoting?

Christians can tell people God is love and that God loves everyone.

Where do you get the idea that people can’t do nice things for others while identifying as religious?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The shoeboxes are delivered and fully used for indoctrination. Not everyone wants to participate in such "missions".

Pls show some - any! - evidence of this practice.

This is straight from their website, its literally a mission.
"Praising God for 30 Years of Operation Christmas Child"

"What is Operation Christmas Child?

The mission of Operation Christmas Child is to demonstrate God’s love in a tangible way to children in need around the world. Through this project, Samaritan’s Purse partners with the local church worldwide to share the Good News of Jesus Christ and make disciples of the nations."

"The Amazing Journey of a Shoebox Gift Begins with You and Results in Evangelism, Discipleship, and Multiplication."

Disgusting.

There is nothing wrong by showing people the love God instructs those who love Him to have for our brothers and sisters.

Let me guess: if Christians do nothing- they are hypocrites. If they do things to show love to others, they are disgusting.

People are allowed to put their time, money, and effort into showing others they are religious, doing things their religion/God asks them to do, and telling others about their relationship with God.

If you don’t like it, fine, but there is nothing disgusting about it.

Using bribes with young/vulnerable people is unethical.

If you want to help people, go ahead. But keep your religion to yourself.

Who are you quoting?

Christians can tell people God is love and that God loves everyone.

Where do you get the idea that people can’t do nice things for others while identifying as religious?

Ok. But you can’t do that while helping vulnerable people. It’s unethical.