What can American women learn from foreign women?

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Anonymous wrote:They can learn to take better care of themselves:
- Reduce or eliminate alcoholic beverages
- Wear no-makeup makeup
- Don’t tan
- Move more , not just exercise but more more in general
- Eat a healthy diet
- Don’t walk/drive and eat/drink
- Speak softly



You must be thinking of Asian women. European women tan and drink a lot.


Incorrect. We don't really drink and there is major social shaming for women who abuse alcohol or get drunk. As a woman in Europe, you don't get drunk or fat. Both are unacceptable.
To be fair, I haven't seen a lot of Hispanic or Black women here getting drunk either. It's usually the white women who abuse alcohol - see below for research. And I don't think it's happy drunk either, it's just a coping mechanism.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/national/wp/2016/12/23/nine-charts-that-show-how-white-women-are-drinking-themselves-to-death/

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/06/09/1003980966/women-now-drink-as-much-as-men-and-suffer-health-effects-more-quickly


LOL you clearly spent no time near pubs in working class neighborhoods in Britain on a Friday night. Or at cheap Costa Brava resorts.


1. British aren’t really European

When people say europe, mostly they are referring to the mainland

2. People for sure aren’t thinking about British people in the 20 pages of this thread

3. British and American convergence on many metrics is larger than British-mainland convergence

Look at obesity rates and life expectancy. On these metrics British and Americans are closer than either is to say France


If British people “aren’t really European” then what continent do they “really” belong to? This is such a ridiculous argument.

My DH is British, and I just told him that apparently, someone thinks that British people aren't really European, and he gave me the a look, like "WTF"? lol

American women definitely should not learn about geography or who drinks the most from European women.


There used to be a saying in Britain that (approximately) "the Orient begins at the Channel" and Austrians have a saying that "Asia begins at the Landstrasse".


Ding ding ding

This is an educated pp that clearly has read a lot and or traveled

It’s similar to this bit by philosopher Slavoj zizek on “what is Balkan?”

https://youtu.be/3rpEQmtkstM?si=GPavWRJeADTrGx4i





Nobody cares about you guys rambling on about philosophers and geography BS. Let's list the countries with women that blow US women out of the water. I'll go first.

Colombia- If looks could kill, they'd be dynamite. When they're talking to you, it's as if they're singing a sweet song. They also know a thing or two about adversity and personal responsibility.
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Anonymous wrote:What always gets me is that if their societies were so much better wouldn't there be an influx of people going to those countries rather than getting people out of them?

Europe has its share of migrants
Perhaps you want to think that everyone wants to immigrate to the US


DP.

Where are the mail order brides or grooms leaving U.S for Europe.

There are more opportunities here for foreigners than they are in Europe.

You are confused
Mail order brides are from former communist bloc countries
And the weird dudes going after them are US born
Though I have heard about Thai mail order brides as well

If you compare women in Europe that are not from post communist countries then they tend to be more educated
In America, up until the 60s a woman still believed she could become a home maker or wife and just do that
In Europe the women entered the workforce much sooner, got voting rights earlier
Here the poverty is more extreme and education is dependent on parental income with regard to quality of schooling
College is also much more affordable

A European man would not agree to fund a stay at home spouse


What are you saying? So many Euro women with 2+ stay at home. I will never understnd why people think that the social policies of countries in western Europe are in support of women. They really believe women belong at home and fund it.

Maybe in Western Europe, but in Easter, we fund it because we need more people. 3+ kid families are very hard to find.
Anyone can be an American. You are my countryman only by bloodline.We have one million people, low birth rates and you don't think government is worried.
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Anonymous wrote:Interesting thought experiment- what do you all think would be the responses to a thread titled 'What can foreign women learn from American women?'
I can't think of anything else than 'be able to earn like their US counterparts'.
Though perhaps some men like assertiveness in women?

-Foreign woman





Depends where the foreign woman is from.

Japan: learn to stop hiding your mouth when you laugh
France: learn that just because a man finds you desirable doesn’t mean he respects or even likes you
Russia: learn that sometimes smiling gets you better treatment than looking stern



Italy, France: that you merit a husband who is faithful and doesn’t cheat on you
Anonymous
This thread isn't about advice at all. It's just about insulting a group of people who read it, and trying to make them feel bad.

It's just blatant now, instead of quasi-disguised. Somehow you don't seem to get that these are diminishing returns for you here, the more obvious you are about it.
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Anonymous wrote:Been with a foreign woman all weekend and what a breath of fresh air!

Initially I kept making sure she wasn't offended by things and she finally said"why are Americans so uptight? That would be exhausting and stressful being offended all the time".

Also readily goes down without and haggling. Completely chill about everything.

The difference is just night and day.


Followed up with an unsolicited back massage.

Night and day...


Now you are sounding like a grosser. Signed a non-American woman.


What is a grosser?
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Anonymous wrote:They can learn to take better care of themselves:
- Reduce or eliminate alcoholic beverages
- Wear no-makeup makeup
- Don’t tan
- Move more , not just exercise but more more in general
- Eat a healthy diet
- Don’t walk/drive and eat/drink
- Speak softly



You must be thinking of Asian women. European women tan and drink a lot.


Incorrect. We don't really drink and there is major social shaming for women who abuse alcohol or get drunk. As a woman in Europe, you don't get drunk or fat. Both are unacceptable.
To be fair, I haven't seen a lot of Hispanic or Black women here getting drunk either. It's usually the white women who abuse alcohol - see below for research. And I don't think it's happy drunk either, it's just a coping mechanism.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/national/wp/2016/12/23/nine-charts-that-show-how-white-women-are-drinking-themselves-to-death/

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/06/09/1003980966/women-now-drink-as-much-as-men-and-suffer-health-effects-more-quickly


LOL you clearly spent no time near pubs in working class neighborhoods in Britain on a Friday night. Or at cheap Costa Brava resorts.


1. British aren’t really European

When people say europe, mostly they are referring to the mainland

2. People for sure aren’t thinking about British people in the 20 pages of this thread

3. British and American convergence on many metrics is larger than British-mainland convergence

Look at obesity rates and life expectancy. On these metrics British and Americans are closer than either is to say France


If British people “aren’t really European” then what continent do they “really” belong to? This is such a ridiculous argument.

My DH is British, and I just told him that apparently, someone thinks that British people aren't really European, and he gave me the a look, like "WTF"? lol

American women definitely should not learn about geography or who drinks the most from European women.


There used to be a saying in Britain that (approximately) "the Orient begins at the Channel" and Austrians have a saying that "Asia begins at the Landstrasse".


Ding ding ding

This is an educated pp that clearly has read a lot and or traveled

It’s similar to this bit by philosopher Slavoj zizek on “what is Balkan?”

https://youtu.be/3rpEQmtkstM?si=GPavWRJeADTrGx4i





Nobody cares about you guys rambling on about philosophers and geography BS. Let's list the countries with women that blow US women out of the water. I'll go first.

Colombia- If looks could kill, they'd be dynamite. When they're talking to you, it's as if they're singing a sweet song. They also know a thing or two about adversity and personal responsibility.


Looks can't kill, so please explain further.
What are the obvious advantages that Columbian women have that Anerican woman want/need?
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Anonymous wrote:They can learn to take better care of themselves:
- Reduce or eliminate alcoholic beverages
- Wear no-makeup makeup
- Don’t tan
- Move more , not just exercise but more more in general
- Eat a healthy diet
- Don’t walk/drive and eat/drink
- Speak softly



You must be thinking of Asian women. European women tan and drink a lot.


Incorrect. We don't really drink and there is major social shaming for women who abuse alcohol or get drunk. As a woman in Europe, you don't get drunk or fat. Both are unacceptable.
To be fair, I haven't seen a lot of Hispanic or Black women here getting drunk either. It's usually the white women who abuse alcohol - see below for research. And I don't think it's happy drunk either, it's just a coping mechanism.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/national/wp/2016/12/23/nine-charts-that-show-how-white-women-are-drinking-themselves-to-death/

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/06/09/1003980966/women-now-drink-as-much-as-men-and-suffer-health-effects-more-quickly


LOL you clearly spent no time near pubs in working class neighborhoods in Britain on a Friday night. Or at cheap Costa Brava resorts.


1. British aren’t really European

When people say europe, mostly they are referring to the mainland

2. People for sure aren’t thinking about British people in the 20 pages of this thread

3. British and American convergence on many metrics is larger than British-mainland convergence

Look at obesity rates and life expectancy. On these metrics British and Americans are closer than either is to say France


If British people “aren’t really European” then what continent do they “really” belong to? This is such a ridiculous argument.

My DH is British, and I just told him that apparently, someone thinks that British people aren't really European, and he gave me the a look, like "WTF"? lol

American women definitely should not learn about geography or who drinks the most from European women.


There used to be a saying in Britain that (approximately) "the Orient begins at the Channel" and Austrians have a saying that "Asia begins at the Landstrasse".


Ding ding ding

This is an educated pp that clearly has read a lot and or traveled

It’s similar to this bit by philosopher Slavoj zizek on “what is Balkan?”

https://youtu.be/3rpEQmtkstM?si=GPavWRJeADTrGx4i





Nobody cares about you guys rambling on about philosophers and geography BS. Let's list the countries with women that blow US women out of the water. I'll go first.

Colombia- If looks could kill, they'd be dynamite. When they're talking to you, it's as if they're singing a sweet song. They also know a thing or two about adversity and personal responsibility.


Looks can't kill, so please explain further.
What are the obvious advantages that Columbian women have that Anerican woman want/need?


Can’t possibly be the abject dependence on an American man.
Anonymous
The problem is that these days, younger American women tend to be overly looks focused and don’t grow out of this phase until it’s too late. They often will ignore good guys who don’t have model looks because they have become accustomed to the endless carousel of easy sex with top tier looking guys on dating apps. I personally know several women like this who literally only care about a guys looks starting from 16-17 and now are late 20’s and STILL go for the same type of guys (the F’boy types who don’t want anything serious and make very poor relationship partners). One of these women is my sister. Terrible taste in men, she’s cute and could easily get a decent well rounded guy, but she inevitably goes for the first stereotypically hot guy she matches with on Tinder with the same predictable results every time. She would rather be with an 8/10 in looks and a 1/10 in every other category than a well rounded 6 or 7/10.

Foreign women seem to outgrow this a lot sooner or never hit this phase in the first place.
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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that these days, younger American women tend to be overly looks focused and don’t grow out of this phase until it’s too late. They often will ignore good guys who don’t have model looks because they have become accustomed to the endless carousel of easy sex with top tier looking guys on dating apps. I personally know several women like this who literally only care about a guys looks starting from 16-17 and now are late 20’s and STILL go for the same type of guys (the F’boy types who don’t want anything serious and make very poor relationship partners). One of these women is my sister. Terrible taste in men, she’s cute and could easily get a decent well rounded guy, but she inevitably goes for the first stereotypically hot guy she matches with on Tinder with the same predictable results every time. She would rather be with an 8/10 in looks and a 1/10 in every other category than a well rounded 6 or 7/10.

Foreign women seem to outgrow this a lot sooner or never hit this phase in the first place.


That’s so true. Never was into guys looks as a foreign woman. Only height 5’11 and over, and not fat.
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Anonymous wrote:Look at this Russian 50 something mom. I think most men would be happy with a middle aged wife who looks like this, is into sex, and she's not overly critical- non Russian wife here. Men are simple creatures.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxSvXu8OYsL/?igshid=MWZjMTM2ODFkZg==


You’d better have major ducats. She looks expensive.

+1 that's what I keep saying.

If you want to marry a woman who loves shopping and is into her looks, you'd better be able to pay for that.


But men are simple creatures! They just want a thin, white, rich foreign woman who is featured on Instagram fashion pages! That's all! Why can't all women just see that if you're just thin, white, rich, and foreign, then men on DCUM will want you, too!!


Not me! I want a short, chubby Sri Lankan woman who knows how to make delicious prawn curry. Bonus points if she owns a tea plantation.
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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that these days, younger American women tend to be overly looks focused and don’t grow out of this phase until it’s too late.


Too late for what?

Also, "these days?" What year, in your estimation, did younger American women start to behave this way?
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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that these days, younger American women tend to be overly looks focused and don’t grow out of this phase until it’s too late.


Too late for what?

Also, "these days?" What year, in your estimation, did younger American women start to behave this way?


I am guessing it's whenever PP found himself rejected by an American woman. Before then, things were great.
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Anonymous wrote:They can learn to take better care of themselves:
- Reduce or eliminate alcoholic beverages
- Wear no-makeup makeup
- Don’t tan
- Move more , not just exercise but more more in general
- Eat a healthy diet
- Don’t walk/drive and eat/drink
- Speak softly



You must be thinking of Asian women. European women tan and drink a lot.


Incorrect. We don't really drink and there is major social shaming for women who abuse alcohol or get drunk. As a woman in Europe, you don't get drunk or fat. Both are unacceptable.
To be fair, I haven't seen a lot of Hispanic or Black women here getting drunk either. It's usually the white women who abuse alcohol - see below for research. And I don't think it's happy drunk either, it's just a coping mechanism.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/national/wp/2016/12/23/nine-charts-that-show-how-white-women-are-drinking-themselves-to-death/

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/06/09/1003980966/women-now-drink-as-much-as-men-and-suffer-health-effects-more-quickly


LOL you clearly spent no time near pubs in working class neighborhoods in Britain on a Friday night. Or at cheap Costa Brava resorts.


1. British aren’t really European

When people say europe, mostly they are referring to the mainland

2. People for sure aren’t thinking about British people in the 20 pages of this thread

3. British and American convergence on many metrics is larger than British-mainland convergence

Look at obesity rates and life expectancy. On these metrics British and Americans are closer than either is to say France


If British people “aren’t really European” then what continent do they “really” belong to? This is such a ridiculous argument.

My DH is British, and I just told him that apparently, someone thinks that British people aren't really European, and he gave me the a look, like "WTF"? lol

American women definitely should not learn about geography or who drinks the most from European women.


There used to be a saying in Britain that (approximately) "the Orient begins at the Channel" and Austrians have a saying that "Asia begins at the Landstrasse".


Ding ding ding

This is an educated pp that clearly has read a lot and or traveled

It’s similar to this bit by philosopher Slavoj zizek on “what is Balkan?”

https://youtu.be/3rpEQmtkstM?si=GPavWRJeADTrGx4i





Nobody cares about you guys rambling on about philosophers and geography BS. Let's list the countries with women that blow US women out of the water. I'll go first.

Colombia- If looks could kill, they'd be dynamite. When they're talking to you, it's as if they're singing a sweet song. They also know a thing or two about adversity and personal responsibility.


Looks can't kill, so please explain further.
What are the obvious advantages that Columbian women have that Anerican woman want/need?


Can’t possibly be the abject dependence on an American man.

if you have to depend on a man for your existence, then why would any woman want to learn from that person?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that these days, younger American women tend to be overly looks focused and don’t grow out of this phase until it’s too late. They often will ignore good guys who don’t have model looks because they have become accustomed to the endless carousel of easy sex with top tier looking guys on dating apps. I personally know several women like this who literally only care about a guys looks starting from 16-17 and now are late 20’s and STILL go for the same type of guys (the F’boy types who don’t want anything serious and make very poor relationship partners). One of these women is my sister. Terrible taste in men, she’s cute and could easily get a decent well rounded guy, but she inevitably goes for the first stereotypically hot guy she matches with on Tinder with the same predictable results every time. She would rather be with an 8/10 in looks and a 1/10 in every other category than a well rounded 6 or 7/10.

Foreign women seem to outgrow this a lot sooner or never hit this phase in the first place.


That’s so true. Never was into guys looks as a foreign woman. Only height 5’11 and over, and not fat.

? ok, were you being sarcastic here?
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Anonymous wrote:They can learn to take better care of themselves:
- Reduce or eliminate alcoholic beverages
- Wear no-makeup makeup
- Don’t tan
- Move more , not just exercise but more more in general
- Eat a healthy diet
- Don’t walk/drive and eat/drink
- Speak softly



You must be thinking of Asian women. European women tan and drink a lot.


Incorrect. We don't really drink and there is major social shaming for women who abuse alcohol or get drunk. As a woman in Europe, you don't get drunk or fat. Both are unacceptable.
To be fair, I haven't seen a lot of Hispanic or Black women here getting drunk either. It's usually the white women who abuse alcohol - see below for research. And I don't think it's happy drunk either, it's just a coping mechanism.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/national/wp/2016/12/23/nine-charts-that-show-how-white-women-are-drinking-themselves-to-death/

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/06/09/1003980966/women-now-drink-as-much-as-men-and-suffer-health-effects-more-quickly


LOL you clearly spent no time near pubs in working class neighborhoods in Britain on a Friday night. Or at cheap Costa Brava resorts.


1. British aren’t really European

When people say europe, mostly they are referring to the mainland

2. People for sure aren’t thinking about British people in the 20 pages of this thread

3. British and American convergence on many metrics is larger than British-mainland convergence

Look at obesity rates and life expectancy. On these metrics British and Americans are closer than either is to say France


If British people “aren’t really European” then what continent do they “really” belong to? This is such a ridiculous argument.

My DH is British, and I just told him that apparently, someone thinks that British people aren't really European, and he gave me the a look, like "WTF"? lol

American women definitely should not learn about geography or who drinks the most from European women.


There used to be a saying in Britain that (approximately) "the Orient begins at the Channel" and Austrians have a saying that "Asia begins at the Landstrasse".


Ding ding ding

This is an educated pp that clearly has read a lot and or traveled

It’s similar to this bit by philosopher Slavoj zizek on “what is Balkan?”

https://youtu.be/3rpEQmtkstM?si=GPavWRJeADTrGx4i





Nobody cares about you guys rambling on about philosophers and geography BS. Let's list the countries with women that blow US women out of the water. I'll go first.

Colombia- If looks could kill, they'd be dynamite. When they're talking to you, it's as if they're singing a sweet song. They also know a thing or two about adversity and personal responsibility.


1. Are you a guy?

2. Have you spent time in Colombia?

I was there for half a year all over - bogota, medillin, Cali, Cartagena

The median Colombian woman is 5’2 max frump that’s also very materialistic

So you get eastern euro / Chinese levels of “bag chasing” without the legs and eyes of eastern euro women

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