Has Au/tenley town gotten seedier? Lots of homeless and random people

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Anonymous wrote:Got of the subway last night and there were two separate mentally disturbed individuals screaming and ranting by the Target/bus stop.

A couple of decades ago you wouldn’t have seen that at Tenley. And if someone was having a psychotic breakdown, people would come to try to resolve the situation. Now multiple people can be having public psychotic episodes there, and it’s treated as normal.

Did you call 311 or a wellness check in? if they looked like a threat to themselves or others, you are also allowed to call 911. I was told this at the Frumin breakfast recently.

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Anonymous wrote:Mass of kids in Whole Foods parking today smoking pot. Our parked car reeked when we retrieved it. Spoke to manager. They need to shut that down. Are they going to class stoned out of their gourds?

These out of boundary students at ex-Wilson create a real problem in the Tenkeytown community. Can’t they be sent back to their assigned school if they continue to shoplift, use or sell drugs, and commit mayhem?

Exactly - this is where most of the violence stems from

I'll say it for those that don't have the stomach too....sometimes, too much "inclusivity" is a bad thing. Cultures don't mesh. It happens throughout history. Wars were fought over this.

We tried, let's get back to the mid 2000s when DC was peak.

A rich kid from Wesley Heights would get his a** beat if he attended a school in Anacostia. Oil & Water don't mix.

Nice reminder that people move to AU/Tenley because they miss the days of overt segregation. Thanks for the verification!

Sometimes cultures don't mesh..and that is just fine. It's not racist...it's normal. I don't think many people in Anacostia would want to live in WH either

You don't think many people in Anacostia would want to live in Wesley Heights if they didn't have to worry about the price difference? Wow, forget about racist, you're beyond that (though definitely still racist also) you're completely out of touch with reality.

I think your head is so far deep in the progressive sand that you can't think rationally. Yes. There is a cultural divide and they don't often mesh. Wars are fought over this. It's life.

no the pp, but my african american and latino students never wanted to leave "the corner". literally, the corner they knew and hung out on. yes, people get attached to what they know, even if it's not always optimal

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Anonymous wrote:There’s that brand new neighborhood across from Sidwell where the Fannie Mae HQ was. It is always quiet and safe there and there is a private security force. Lots of families enjoying the cafes and the Wegmans. Nice fire pits too for keeping warm. So not all of Tenley has gone downhill.

shocker! It's far enough away from the Metro and J-R.

shocker, it has security.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s that brand new neighborhood across from Sidwell where the Fannie Mae HQ was. It is always quiet and safe there and there is a private security force. Lots of families enjoying the cafes and the Wegmans. Nice fire pits too for keeping warm. So not all of Tenley has gone downhill.

shocker! It's far enough away from the Metro and J-R.

shocker, it has security.

so MPD isn't security anymore? Are they there just to make crack addicts feel safe?

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Anonymous wrote:Mass of kids in Whole Foods parking today smoking pot. Our parked car reeked when we retrieved it. Spoke to manager. They need to shut that down. Are they going to class stoned out of their gourds?

These out of boundary students at ex-Wilson create a real problem in the Tenkeytown community. Can’t they be sent back to their assigned school if they continue to shoplift, use or sell drugs, and commit mayhem?

Exactly - this is where most of the violence stems from

I'll say it for those that don't have the stomach too....sometimes, too much "inclusivity" is a bad thing. Cultures don't mesh. It happens throughout history. Wars were fought over this.

We tried, let's get back to the mid 2000s when DC was peak.

A rich kid from Wesley Heights would get his a** beat if he attended a school in Anacostia. Oil & Water don't mix.

Just because a kid from Wesley Heights wouldn't be welcome in Anacostia (a proposition I'll grant you for the sake of argument) doesn't mean kids from Anacostia shouldn't be welcome in Tenleytown, though.

Kids from other DC neighborhoods who obey the law, follow the rules, and put in the work are welcome at Tenleytown schools. Otherwise, not.

Are you somehow under the impression that the only kids at Deal or J-R who don’t follow the rules, obey the law or (especially) “put in the work” are the out-of-bounds ones? I live in the neighborhood and send my kids to these schools and I am certain that’s not the case.

Have you walked around Tenley during a school day? Stop burying your head in the sand just to give you a sense of moral superiority.

32% of J-R is "at risk" according to DCPS...now all of them aren't the problem, but it's fairly easy to deduce where issues arise.

Funny how Cathedral Commons isn't robbed on a weekly basis..NCS and STA are right there!

Yes, of course I've done this, like I said, I live in the neighborhood. And it may well be true that the "at-risk" students at J-R are likelier to be causing or involved in trouble than the rest of the school. But I think this notion that ONLY the out-of-bounds kids do anything wrong and that ALL of the in-bounds kids are model students is ridiculous, and it makes it hard to take your underlying point seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s that brand new neighborhood across from Sidwell where the Fannie Mae HQ was. It is always quiet and safe there and there is a private security force. Lots of families enjoying the cafes and the Wegmans. Nice fire pits too for keeping warm. So not all of Tenley has gone downhill.

A private security force should not be required to have a civilized society.

However, here we are. If I were moving to the area, I would absolutely seek a location that has private security and is located far from any public transportation.

I live in the area, a block from Wisconsin Avenue, two blocks from one Metro stop and a 15-minute walk from another one, and I promise you there is no need for any private security. I have a burglar alarm, but that's mostly to get a discount on my insurance.

[Anonymous]

Don’t forget the fact that Ward 3 also “welcomes” PIA on Wisconsin Ave near Van Ness. This piece of our urban vibrant tapestry serves as DC’s privatised psycho facility for violent offenders. It sometimes has a police car that sits outside, after some of the involuntarily committed guests voluntarily checked themselves out. A facility like this should sit inside a fenced and secured perimeter, not on an avenue near several schools and neighborhoods. Most nearby residents probably have no idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don’t forget the fact that Ward 3 also “welcomes” PIA on Wisconsin Ave near Van Ness. This piece of our urban vibrant tapestry serves as DC’s privatised psycho facility for violent offenders. It sometimes has a police car that sits outside, after some of the involuntarily committed guests voluntarily checked themselves out. A facility like this should sit inside a fenced and secured perimeter, not on an avenue near several schools and neighborhoods. Most nearby residents probably have no idea.

Doesn't that suggest that there are no issues with the facility? (Which is PIW by the way)

There is a halfway house a couple of blocks away that has been operating for decades without any issues - this is not a neighborhood where people silently suffer (as evidenced by this thread) so I think it is possible you are dramatic rather than accurate?

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t forget the fact that Ward 3 also “welcomes” PIA on Wisconsin Ave near Van Ness. This piece of our urban vibrant tapestry serves as DC’s privatised psycho facility for violent offenders. It sometimes has a police car that sits outside, after some of the involuntarily committed guests voluntarily checked themselves out. A facility like this should sit inside a fenced and secured perimeter, not on an avenue near several schools and neighborhoods. Most nearby residents probably have no idea.

Doesn't that suggest that there are no issues with the facility? (Which is PIW by the way)

There is a halfway house a couple of blocks away that has been operating for decades without any issues - this is not a neighborhood where people silently suffer (as evidenced by this thread) so I think it is possible you are dramatic rather than accurate?

Please. Horseshit. "Most" nearby residents with eyes and a modicum of critical thinking ability certainly acknowledge an increase in disturbed people loitering along the Wisconsin corridor. Families, the patient's running buddies and patient escorts linger around PIW itself. Patients released from their 2-day holds loiter in the immediate area. Occasionally, a guy will get to leave PIW AMA and now he's our guest.

Does every 20016/20008 resident immediately associate these fine individuals with PIW, vs. the vape shops vs. the pocket parks where the wild-eyed men sleep and hang? No, but you can be sure we know they'e _there_. And they weren't there 7 years ago -- at ALL.

re: the Friendship house ... their "issues" are externalities that impact neighbors up and down 41st st, especially. Bottles of piss, stolen pink tween bikes later seen in the possession of 45 yr old men, etc. Lethal? No, but let's not claim naively that the place doesn't induce any "issues" that affect its neighbors.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t forget the fact that Ward 3 also “welcomes” PIA on Wisconsin Ave near Van Ness. This piece of our urban vibrant tapestry serves as DC’s privatised psycho facility for violent offenders. It sometimes has a police car that sits outside, after some of the involuntarily committed guests voluntarily checked themselves out. A facility like this should sit inside a fenced and secured perimeter, not on an avenue near several schools and neighborhoods. Most nearby residents probably have no idea.

Doesn't that suggest that there are no issues with the facility? (Which is PIW by the way)

There is a halfway house a couple of blocks away that has been operating for decades without any issues - this is not a neighborhood where people silently suffer (as evidenced by this thread) so I think it is possible you are dramatic rather than accurate?

Oh, pickle ball! Must we just roll over and be more "welcoming" to more and more street hoodlums, vagrants, and drug addicts in the neighborhood?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t forget the fact that Ward 3 also “welcomes” PIA on Wisconsin Ave near Van Ness. This piece of our urban vibrant tapestry serves as DC’s privatised psycho facility for violent offenders. It sometimes has a police car that sits outside, after some of the involuntarily committed guests voluntarily checked themselves out. A facility like this should sit inside a fenced and secured perimeter, not on an avenue near several schools and neighborhoods. Most nearby residents probably have no idea.

Doesn't that suggest that there are no issues with the facility? (Which is PIW by the way)

There is a halfway house a couple of blocks away that has been operating for decades without any issues - this is not a neighborhood where people silently suffer (as evidenced by this thread) so I think it is possible you are dramatic rather than accurate?

Oh, pickle ball! Must we just roll over and be more "welcoming" to more and more street hoodlums, vagrants, and drug addicts in the neighborhood?

If there's one thing that WILL make Tenleytown seedier, it's pickleball.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t forget the fact that Ward 3 also “welcomes” PIA on Wisconsin Ave near Van Ness. This piece of our urban vibrant tapestry serves as DC’s privatised psycho facility for violent offenders. It sometimes has a police car that sits outside, after some of the involuntarily committed guests voluntarily checked themselves out. A facility like this should sit inside a fenced and secured perimeter, not on an avenue near several schools and neighborhoods. Most nearby residents probably have no idea.

Doesn't that suggest that there are no issues with the facility? (Which is PIW by the way)

There is a halfway house a couple of blocks away that has been operating for decades without any issues - this is not a neighborhood where people silently suffer (as evidenced by this thread) so I think it is possible you are dramatic rather than accurate?

Please. Horseshit. "Most" nearby residents with eyes and a modicum of critical thinking ability certainly acknowledge an increase in disturbed people loitering along the Wisconsin corridor. Families, the patient's running buddies and patient escorts linger around PIW itself. Patients released from their 2-day holds loiter in the immediate area. Occasionally, a guy will get to leave PIW AMA and now he's our guest.

Does every 20016/20008 resident immediately associate these fine individuals with PIW, vs. the vape shops vs. the pocket parks where the wild-eyed men sleep and hang? No, but you can be sure we know they'e _there_. And they weren't there 7 years ago -- at ALL.

re: the Friendship house ... their "issues" are externalities that impact neighbors up and down 41st st, especially. Bottles of piss, stolen pink tween bikes later seen in the possession of 45 yr old men, etc. Lethal? No, but let's not claim naively that the place doesn't induce any "issues" that affect its neighbors.

Friendship Place is not a halfway house so alas you just proved my point.

Also have never heard any of these complaints about Friendship Place and I know it well because I walk down 41st almost every day on the way from the Metro to my house.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t forget the fact that Ward 3 also “welcomes” PIA on Wisconsin Ave near Van Ness. This piece of our urban vibrant tapestry serves as DC’s privatised psycho facility for violent offenders. It sometimes has a police car that sits outside, after some of the involuntarily committed guests voluntarily checked themselves out. A facility like this should sit inside a fenced and secured perimeter, not on an avenue near several schools and neighborhoods. Most nearby residents probably have no idea.

Doesn't that suggest that there are no issues with the facility? (Which is PIW by the way)

There is a halfway house a couple of blocks away that has been operating for decades without any issues - this is not a neighborhood where people silently suffer (as evidenced by this thread) so I think it is possible you are dramatic rather than accurate?

Oh, pickle ball! Must we just roll over and be more "welcoming" to more and more street hoodlums, vagrants, and drug addicts in the neighborhood?

If there's one thing that WILL make Tenleytown seedier, it's pickleball.

Frumin and Bowser agree: DC needs welcoming pickleball for all!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t forget the fact that Ward 3 also “welcomes” PIA on Wisconsin Ave near Van Ness. This piece of our urban vibrant tapestry serves as DC’s privatised psycho facility for violent offenders. It sometimes has a police car that sits outside, after some of the involuntarily committed guests voluntarily checked themselves out. A facility like this should sit inside a fenced and secured perimeter, not on an avenue near several schools and neighborhoods. Most nearby residents probably have no idea.

Doesn't that suggest that there are no issues with the facility? (Which is PIW by the way)

There is a halfway house a couple of blocks away that has been operating for decades without any issues - this is not a neighborhood where people silently suffer (as evidenced by this thread) so I think it is possible you are dramatic rather than accurate?

Oh, pickle ball! Must we just roll over and be more "welcoming" to more and more street hoodlums, vagrants, and drug addicts in the neighborhood?

If there's one thing that WILL make Tenleytown seedier, it's pickleball.

Frumin and Bowser agree: DC needs welcoming pickleball for all!

Only a matter of time before Matt educates us on Ward 3’s racist pickleball past.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t forget the fact that Ward 3 also “welcomes” PIA on Wisconsin Ave near Van Ness. This piece of our urban vibrant tapestry serves as DC’s privatised psycho facility for violent offenders. It sometimes has a police car that sits outside, after some of the involuntarily committed guests voluntarily checked themselves out. A facility like this should sit inside a fenced and secured perimeter, not on an avenue near several schools and neighborhoods. Most nearby residents probably have no idea.

Doesn't that suggest that there are no issues with the facility? (Which is PIW by the way)

There is a halfway house a couple of blocks away that has been operating for decades without any issues - this is not a neighborhood where people silently suffer (as evidenced by this thread) so I think it is possible you are dramatic rather than accurate?

Oh, pickle ball! Must we just roll over and be more "welcoming" to more and more street hoodlums, vagrants, and drug addicts in the neighborhood?

If there's one thing that WILL make Tenleytown seedier, it's pickleball.

Frumin and Bowser agree: DC needs welcoming pickleball for all!

Only a matter of time before Matt educates us on Ward 3’s racist pickleball past.

He’s only been in office for less than a year, but already has grown tiresome.