NCS college admissions if kid is not a legacy, URM, or athletic recruit

[Anonymous]

Particularly when they don’t seem to understand the “distinctive” words they are using.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes and there are a few other great schools that a few girls have not listed. Some Ivy’s.
Who can blame them, it seems not matter what these girls achieve it is somehow not good enough.
No wonder these kids are stressed. I am feeling a lot of sympathy for OP’s daughter at this point.

For the love, this thread was not knocking the college admissions of NCS kids but rather trying to determine if any of the highly ranked colleges admitted girls solely based on academic achievement — or rather if you also needed to be athletic recruit, URM or legacy. I think it was determined that most girls did indeed have the other factor.

There was also another question about whether academic girls (without hooks) were getting into other schools that are highly regarded (I think there was a list somewhere) such as Notre Dame or Northwestern… this devolved into a thread about the terror and inaccuracy of the ranking system and the moral bankruptcy and idiocy of anyone who cares or relies on such rankings. We never got an answer as best as I could tell.

OP, please read what you wrote in your original post. Here's a snippet: I'm getting freaked out by the schools that girls outside of the above categories are attending.

It was a mean and derogatory post about the colleges that many of your child's schoolmates are attending, that simply aren't good enough for your child. You mentioned how hard she works, to clearly imply that the girls with "hooks" don't have to to work as hard. You started it. You cannot come on here claiming a different intent. Your daughter has to work hard to get good grades and doesn't have the interest or stamina to do that and play sports. Fine, but don't criticize the girls who can do both.

I am not OP but rather a poster who has a similar profile kid, hence my interest in this thread. FWIW, I didn’t take the original thread the way others did. I thought “the tell it to me straight” and “freaked out” was an attempt at disarming humor. I think one inferred different tones, depending on the profile of your kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Particularly when they don’t seem to understand the “distinctive” words they are using.

Uh, I'm the pp who made the post. I've read thru many of the area senior commitment lists. Comparatively, NCS's list is so-so. That is factual. Sorry you do not agree. I am very well aware of how I used the word "distinctive". The NCS list is not particularly so.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly looking through the Instagram, I was floored. 6 out of the 8 Ivies (AND Stanford). Lots of solid LACs like Pomona, Middlebury and Davidson. People on this board are something else.

Me too. Is is a very impressive list. The op is very bitter and it is sad.

This list is so-so. Not that distinctive from other posted results in this area. Infact, not very distinctive at all. Several of the public and a few private schools had more distinctive lists this year.

And yet NCS grads tend do be quite successful in life. I know many and they are all doing quite well and are living happy well-balanced lives. You on the other hand sound quite miserable. How unfortunate for you that you just don’t get it. The key to success is not getting imo an Ivy. Just ask all of the Ivy grads you know. I think they would agree. Many of them don’t get placed for jobs or internships after college just like everywhere else. Many do but trust me they have their own issues with life after college too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly looking through the Instagram, I was floored. 6 out of the 8 Ivies (AND Stanford). Lots of solid LACs like Pomona, Middlebury and Davidson. People on this board are something else.

Me too. Is is a very impressive list. The op is very bitter and it is sad.

This list is so-so. Not that distinctive from other posted results in this area. Infact, not very distinctive at all. Several of the public and a few private schools had more distinctive lists this year.

And yet NCS grads tend do be quite successful in life. I know many and they are all doing quite well and are living happy well-balanced lives. You on the other hand sound quite miserable. How unfortunate for you that you just don’t get it. The key to success is not getting imo an Ivy. Just ask all of the Ivy grads you know. I think they would agree. Many of them don’t get placed for jobs or internships after college just like everywhere else. Many do but trust me they have their own issues with life after college too.

I am happy. You are very defensive with my interpretation of the list. Let it go.
I think that NCS is a great school. Not everyone is on the bandwagon, but it is a good school.

[Anonymous]

Well after reading through this thread - I have a question.

Does the non-athlete non-hook college list from NCS differ greatly from the same type of list from sidwell gds potomac etc...

Or is the NCS-specific answer somehow particularly different from the other "peer" schools?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Particularly when they don’t seem to understand the “distinctive” words they are using.

Uh, I'm the pp who made the post. I've read thru many of the area senior commitment lists. Comparatively, NCS's list is so-so. That is factual. Sorry you do not agree. I am very well aware of how I used the word "distinctive". The NCS list is not particularly so.

You write like an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly looking through the Instagram, I was floored. 6 out of the 8 Ivies (AND Stanford). Lots of solid LACs like Pomona, Middlebury and Davidson. People on this board are something else.

Me too. Is is a very impressive list. The op is very bitter and it is sad.

This list is so-so. Not that distinctive from other posted results in this area. Infact, not very distinctive at all. Several of the public and a few private schools had more distinctive lists this year.

And yet NCS grads tend do be quite successful in life. I know many and they are all doing quite well and are living happy well-balanced lives. You on the other hand sound quite miserable. How unfortunate for you that you just don’t get it. The key to success is not getting imo an Ivy. Just ask all of the Ivy grads you know. I think they would agree. Many of them don’t get placed for jobs or internships after college just like everywhere else. Many do but trust me they have their own issues with life after college too.

THIS. Obviously we all want our kid to get into the "best" college relatively speaking that's a good fit for them. But a much, MUCH more important indicator of a school's strength (IMO) is how do these girls do once they are in college (grades, continuing with intended major, etc.) and where do they go to grad school? If they start out pre-med, do they end up going to med school? Stick with their science track? Someone mentioned this upthread, but based on the cohort of NCS (and most privates) the vast majority will likely to go grad/professional school someday. I would be interested in this information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly looking through the Instagram, I was floored. 6 out of the 8 Ivies (AND Stanford). Lots of solid LACs like Pomona, Middlebury and Davidson. People on this board are something else.

Me too. Is is a very impressive list. The op is very bitter and it is sad.

This list is so-so. Not that distinctive from other posted results in this area. Infact, not very distinctive at all. Several of the public and a few private schools had more distinctive lists this year.

And yet NCS grads tend do be quite successful in life. I know many and they are all doing quite well and are living happy well-balanced lives. You on the other hand sound quite miserable. How unfortunate for you that you just don’t get it. The key to success is not getting imo an Ivy. Just ask all of the Ivy grads you know. I think they would agree. Many of them don’t get placed for jobs or internships after college just like everywhere else. Many do but trust me they have their own issues with life after college too.

I’ve been struck by the fact that of the several NCS grads I know, very few want to send their own daughter to NCS.
This is different from the St. Albans grads I know who by and large do want their boys to go to St. Albans. Why such a difference?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well after reading through this thread - I have a question.

Does the non-athlete non-hook college list from NCS differ greatly from the same type of list from sidwell gds potomac etc...

Or is the NCS-specific answer somehow particularly different from the other "peer" schools?

I don’t have first hand experience, but I’d guess that the outcomes for non-hooked kids at all the top area schools are pretty similar. I find that the Private/Independent schools forum on DCUM is pretty insular (much like the schools themselves). If you browse DCUM using the “Recent Topics” option, you would have seen scores of active threads with a similar topic in the College Forum over the last few years and wouldn’t need to ask the question. But I think a significant percentage of private school parents mostly or exclusively come on here just to read the Private school forum which leaves you with less information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly looking through the Instagram, I was floored. 6 out of the 8 Ivies (AND Stanford). Lots of solid LACs like Pomona, Middlebury and Davidson. People on this board are something else.

Me too. Is is a very impressive list. The op is very bitter and it is sad.

This list is so-so. Not that distinctive from other posted results in this area. Infact, not very distinctive at all. Several of the public and a few private schools had more distinctive lists this year.

And yet NCS grads tend do be quite successful in life. I know many and they are all doing quite well and are living happy well-balanced lives. You on the other hand sound quite miserable. How unfortunate for you that you just don’t get it. The key to success is not getting imo an Ivy. Just ask all of the Ivy grads you know. I think they would agree. Many of them don’t get placed for jobs or internships after college just like everywhere else. Many do but trust me they have their own issues with life after college too.

I’ve been struck by the fact that of the several NCS grads I know, very few want to send their own daughter to NCS.
This is different from the St. Albans grads I know who by and large do want their boys to go to St. Albans. Why such a difference?

The current 9th grade has several NCS alum parents plus a few Holton alum moms as well that sent their daughters to NCS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly looking through the Instagram, I was floored. 6 out of the 8 Ivies (AND Stanford). Lots of solid LACs like Pomona, Middlebury and Davidson. People on this board are something else.

Me too. Is is a very impressive list. The op is very bitter and it is sad.

This list is so-so. Not that distinctive from other posted results in this area. Infact, not very distinctive at all. Several of the public and a few private schools had more distinctive lists this year.

And yet NCS grads tend do be quite successful in life. I know many and they are all doing quite well and are living happy well-balanced lives. You on the other hand sound quite miserable. How unfortunate for you that you just don’t get it. The key to success is not getting imo an Ivy. Just ask all of the Ivy grads you know. I think they would agree. Many of them don’t get placed for jobs or internships after college just like everywhere else. Many do but trust me they have their own issues with life after college too.

I’ve been struck by the fact that of the several NCS grads I know, very few want to send their own daughter to NCS.
This is different from the St. Albans grads I know who by and large do want their boys to go to St. Albans. Why such a difference?

The current 9th grade has several NCS alum parents plus a few Holton alum moms as well that sent their daughters to NCS.

Legacy status is always a hook.

[Anonymous]

I think a take away from this thread is be realistic about college admission and don’t set weird expectations with the school or your kid. Get your kid psyched about their target schools. Don’t fixated on the Ivy-plus or top 20.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly looking through the Instagram, I was floored. 6 out of the 8 Ivies (AND Stanford). Lots of solid LACs like Pomona, Middlebury and Davidson. People on this board are something else.

Me too. Is is a very impressive list. The op is very bitter and it is sad.

This list is so-so. Not that distinctive from other posted results in this area. Infact, not very distinctive at all. Several of the public and a few private schools had more distinctive lists this year.

And yet NCS grads tend do be quite successful in life. I know many and they are all doing quite well and are living happy well-balanced lives. You on the other hand sound quite miserable. How unfortunate for you that you just don’t get it. The key to success is not getting imo an Ivy. Just ask all of the Ivy grads you know. I think they would agree. Many of them don’t get placed for jobs or internships after college just like everywhere else. Many do but trust me they have their own issues with life after college too.

I’ve been struck by the fact that of the several NCS grads I know, very few want to send their own daughter to NCS.
This is different from the St. Albans grads I know who by and large do want their boys to go to St. Albans. Why such a difference?

The current 9th grade has several NCS alum parents plus a few Holton alum moms as well that sent their daughters to NCS.

Legacy status is always a hook.

That wasn’t the question or statement. Previous poster stated that NCS alums don’t send their kids to NCS which is factually incorrect. I know many NCS alums in multiple grades that currently have at least one if not two daughters at NCS or have daughters that have graduated within the past two or three years. I also know several Holton, Sidwell, and Visi alums that also currently have daughters at NCS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think a take away from this thread is be realistic about college admission and don’t set weird expectations with the school or your kid. Get your kid psyched about their target schools. Don’t fixated on the Ivy-plus or top 20.

It's really this. There are tens of thousands of very strong applicants applying to each of the top colleges. However you define it, the top kids in this area (and that includes both public and private) may be the big fish in this pond, but there are plenty of other ponds out there in the US, let alone overseas. With relatively few exceptions, these colleges and universities are free to create an incoming class however they want, and with tremendous demand for the top schools, they have almost limitless choices.