Arlington Missing Middle Housing Q&A

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sincerely hope hope the MM passes.

It’s exactly what SFH’s in N Arl deserve for creating a Democrat stranglehold on everything. This is what they voted for, this is what they created, and it’s amazingly awesome to watch all the phony liberals freak out over MM 😂😂

MM++ -- I am a SFH owner in N Arlington and support MM. Requiring SFH zoning has been shown to be historically racist. Let's fix that.

Haha, there is nothing today stopping upper middle class and upper class blacks and Hispanics from living in North Arlington.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sincerely hope hope the MM passes.

It’s exactly what SFH’s in N Arl deserve for creating a Democrat stranglehold on everything. This is what they voted for, this is what they created, and it’s amazingly awesome to watch all the phony liberals freak out over MM 😂😂

MM++ -- I am a SFH owner in N Arlington and support MM. Requiring SFH zoning has been shown to be historically racist. Let's fix that.

+1

I'd like to see more restrictions on new construction in general re: parking, trees, lot coverage, but that's not specific to MM. I'm good with MM itself.

-SFH owner in $$$ neighborhood

Let me tell you how this goes. First they pass the MM initiative so there's no restriction on multi-family housing. Next they have some kind of "opportunity" for affordable housing. Maybe a church is being redeveloped or someone donates some land, who knows. From there, it's a fairly easy process for them to allow bonus density, extra height, etc. because we "need the housing." All of the sudden there's an approved project that covers the entire lot and is twice as high as the zoning would otherwise allow.

Wouldn't happen? They did it in my neighborhood, they will do it in yours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sincerely hope hope the MM passes.

It’s exactly what SFH’s in N Arl deserve for creating a Democrat stranglehold on everything. This is what they voted for, this is what they created, and it’s amazingly awesome to watch all the phony liberals freak out over MM 😂😂

MM++ -- I am a SFH owner in N Arlington and support MM. Requiring SFH zoning has been shown to be historically racist. Let's fix that.

+1

I'd like to see more restrictions on new construction in general re: parking, trees, lot coverage, but that's not specific to MM. I'm good with MM itself.

-SFH owner in $$$ neighborhood

Let me tell you how this goes. First they pass the MM initiative so there's no restriction on multi-family housing. Next they have some kind of "opportunity" for affordable housing. Maybe a church is being redeveloped or someone donates some land, who knows. From there, it's a fairly easy process for them to allow bonus density, extra height, etc. because we "need the housing." All of the sudden there's an approved project that covers the entire lot and is twice as high as the zoning would otherwise allow.

Wouldn't happen? They did it in my neighborhood, they will do it in yours.

So you admit, that the fear is that undesirable not rich people will move in. And not only one or two of the, but a like 10 or more. The horror!
What happened to everyone is welcome here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sincerely hope hope the MM passes.

It’s exactly what SFH’s in N Arl deserve for creating a Democrat stranglehold on everything. This is what they voted for, this is what they created, and it’s amazingly awesome to watch all the phony liberals freak out over MM 😂😂

MM++ -- I am a SFH owner in N Arlington and support MM. Requiring SFH zoning has been shown to be historically racist. Let's fix that.

+1

I'd like to see more restrictions on new construction in general re: parking, trees, lot coverage, but that's not specific to MM. I'm good with MM itself.

-SFH owner in $$$ neighborhood

Let me tell you how this goes. First they pass the MM initiative so there's no restriction on multi-family housing. Next they have some kind of "opportunity" for affordable housing. Maybe a church is being redeveloped or someone donates some land, who knows. From there, it's a fairly easy process for them to allow bonus density, extra height, etc. because we "need the housing." All of the sudden there's an approved project that covers the entire lot and is twice as high as the zoning would otherwise allow.

Wouldn't happen? They did it in my neighborhood, they will do it in yours.

So you admit, that the fear is that undesirable not rich people will move in. And not only one or two of the, but a like 10 or more. The horror!
What happened to everyone is welcome here?

MM is a solution in search of a problem. The "not rich" are people who supposedly want to buy $500K condos and $1.2 million townhouses. But just check zillow -- there are tons of them available already!

[Anonymous]

The reason Marc Elrich won in Moco (again) was because he was the only one who wasn't completely tied at the hip with developers. People saw through the phony "affordable housing" BS being spouted by his opponent as nothing more than a smokescreen for developer handouts. If you ask anyone why they voted for Elrich, almost all of them will give that as the reason. Hopefully the people of Arlington are smart enough to act similarly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sincerely hope hope the MM passes.

It’s exactly what SFH’s in N Arl deserve for creating a Democrat stranglehold on everything. This is what they voted for, this is what they created, and it’s amazingly awesome to watch all the phony liberals freak out over MM 😂😂

MM++ -- I am a SFH owner in N Arlington and support MM. Requiring SFH zoning has been shown to be historically racist. Let's fix that.

+1

I'd like to see more restrictions on new construction in general re: parking, trees, lot coverage, but that's not specific to MM. I'm good with MM itself.

-SFH owner in $$$ neighborhood

Let me tell you how this goes. First they pass the MM initiative so there's no restriction on multi-family housing. Next they have some kind of "opportunity" for affordable housing. Maybe a church is being redeveloped or someone donates some land, who knows. From there, it's a fairly easy process for them to allow bonus density, extra height, etc. because we "need the housing." All of the sudden there's an approved project that covers the entire lot and is twice as high as the zoning would otherwise allow.

Wouldn't happen? They did it in my neighborhood, they will do it in yours.

So you admit, that the fear is that undesirable not rich people will move in. And not only one or two of the, but a like 10 or more. The horror!
What happened to everyone is welcome here?

The problem is infrastructure. Schools, parks, sewer systems, parking, etc. Adding more people makes quality of life worse for people already here. The underlying assumption of increased density is that we should all just be fine with it and sacrifice for the cause.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sincerely hope hope the MM passes.

It’s exactly what SFH’s in N Arl deserve for creating a Democrat stranglehold on everything. This is what they voted for, this is what they created, and it’s amazingly awesome to watch all the phony liberals freak out over MM 😂😂

MM++ -- I am a SFH owner in N Arlington and support MM. Requiring SFH zoning has been shown to be historically racist. Let's fix that.

Too bad MMH isn’t fixing the racial disparity with home ownership in Arlington. That is just a strawman MMH proponents like to use. Again, this is simply about providing more million dollar homes.

Sadly, MMH will force out more POC who are renting in Halls Hill and Green Valley, two black communities. The others with lower incomes who live in market rate housing and CAFs will continue to be ghettoized by Arlington County in South Arlington and around Arlington BLvd.

The desirable poors — older people, disabled, and white — will be allowed into North Arlington’s CAFs and set asides

Meanwhile, Plan Langston BLvd woukd have provided 1,600 affordable units and 4,600 market rate units off Langston BLvd. Scared of that possibility in an election year, the ACB pushed aside PLB for MMH that will benefit people who can well affirm to live in Arlington, just not in the type of housing to which they feel entitled. MMH will do nothing to enhance racial diversity or affordability in Arlington.


That means if any builder will bother to build the housing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I sincerely hope hope the MM passes.

It’s exactly what SFH’s in N Arl deserve for creating a Democrat stranglehold on everything. This is what they voted for, this is what they created, and it’s amazingly awesome to watch all the phony liberals freak out over MM 😂😂

Yep, the “All Are Welcome Here” signs were replaced by No Missing Middle. I love to bring up the subject with neighbors, especially the old hippies who act like their dilapidated houses are worth more than the land value.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reason Marc Elrich won in Moco (again) was because he was the only one who wasn't completely tied at the hip with developers. People saw through the phony "affordable housing" BS being spouted by his opponent as nothing more than a smokescreen for developer handouts. If you ask anyone why they voted for Elrich, almost all of them will give that as the reason. Hopefully the people of Arlington are smart enough to act similarly.

+1 hopefully people vote for Clement tomorrow to send a message!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sincerely hope hope the MM passes.

It’s exactly what SFH’s in N Arl deserve for creating a Democrat stranglehold on everything. This is what they voted for, this is what they created, and it’s amazingly awesome to watch all the phony liberals freak out over MM 😂😂

MM++ -- I am a SFH owner in N Arlington and support MM. Requiring SFH zoning has been shown to be historically racist. Let's fix that.

+1

I'd like to see more restrictions on new construction in general re: parking, trees, lot coverage, but that's not specific to MM. I'm good with MM itself.

-SFH owner in $$$ neighborhood

Let me tell you how this goes. First they pass the MM initiative so there's no restriction on multi-family housing. Next they have some kind of "opportunity" for affordable housing. Maybe a church is being redeveloped or someone donates some land, who knows. From there, it's a fairly easy process for them to allow bonus density, extra height, etc. because we "need the housing." All of the sudden there's an approved project that covers the entire lot and is twice as high as the zoning would otherwise allow.

Wouldn't happen? They did it in my neighborhood, they will do it in yours.

So you admit, that the fear is that undesirable not rich people will move in. And not only one or two of the, but a like 10 or more. The horror!
What happened to everyone is welcome here?

The problem is infrastructure. Schools, parks, sewer systems, parking, etc. Adding more people makes quality of life worse for people already here. The underlying assumption of increased density is that we should all just be fine with it and sacrifice for the cause.

The underlying principle for my support of MM is that people have to live somewhere and density is greener than sprawl. I care about what sort of planet I'm leaving for my children. People who think sprawl is A+++ total excellence can move out beyond the Beltway to enjoy big houses and big commutes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sincerely hope hope the MM passes.

It’s exactly what SFH’s in N Arl deserve for creating a Democrat stranglehold on everything. This is what they voted for, this is what they created, and it’s amazingly awesome to watch all the phony liberals freak out over MM 😂😂

MM++ -- I am a SFH owner in N Arlington and support MM. Requiring SFH zoning has been shown to be historically racist. Let's fix that.

+1

I'd like to see more restrictions on new construction in general re: parking, trees, lot coverage, but that's not specific to MM. I'm good with MM itself.

-SFH owner in $$$ neighborhood

Let me tell you how this goes. First they pass the MM initiative so there's no restriction on multi-family housing. Next they have some kind of "opportunity" for affordable housing. Maybe a church is being redeveloped or someone donates some land, who knows. From there, it's a fairly easy process for them to allow bonus density, extra height, etc. because we "need the housing." All of the sudden there's an approved project that covers the entire lot and is twice as high as the zoning would otherwise allow.

Wouldn't happen? They did it in my neighborhood, they will do it in yours.

So you admit, that the fear is that undesirable not rich people will move in. And not only one or two of the, but a like 10 or more. The horror!
What happened to everyone is welcome here?

The problem is infrastructure. Schools, parks, sewer systems, parking, etc. Adding more people makes quality of life worse for people already here. The underlying assumption of increased density is that we should all just be fine with it and sacrifice for the cause.

+1 Schools are my major concern.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sincerely hope hope the MM passes.

It’s exactly what SFH’s in N Arl deserve for creating a Democrat stranglehold on everything. This is what they voted for, this is what they created, and it’s amazingly awesome to watch all the phony liberals freak out over MM 😂😂

MM++ -- I am a SFH owner in N Arlington and support MM. Requiring SFH zoning has been shown to be historically racist. Let's fix that.

+1

I'd like to see more restrictions on new construction in general re: parking, trees, lot coverage, but that's not specific to MM. I'm good with MM itself.

-SFH owner in $$$ neighborhood

Let me tell you how this goes. First they pass the MM initiative so there's no restriction on multi-family housing. Next they have some kind of "opportunity" for affordable housing. Maybe a church is being redeveloped or someone donates some land, who knows. From there, it's a fairly easy process for them to allow bonus density, extra height, etc. because we "need the housing." All of the sudden there's an approved project that covers the entire lot and is twice as high as the zoning would otherwise allow.

Wouldn't happen? They did it in my neighborhood, they will do it in yours.

So you admit, that the fear is that undesirable not rich people will move in. And not only one or two of the, but a like 10 or more. The horror!
What happened to everyone is welcome here?

The problem is infrastructure. Schools, parks, sewer systems, parking, etc. Adding more people makes quality of life worse for people already here. The underlying assumption of increased density is that we should all just be fine with it and sacrifice for the cause.

The underlying principle for my support of MM is that people have to live somewhere and density is greener than sprawl. I care about what sort of planet I'm leaving for my children. People who think sprawl is A+++ total excellence can move out beyond the Beltway to enjoy big houses and big commutes.

I don't care about big houses. I care about being able to get my kid into summer camp and being able to sign up for swimming lessons. Right now both of those require you to be both fast and lucky because demand far outstrips supply. Adding more upper middle class families in $1 million townhouses is only going to make that worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sincerely hope hope the MM passes.

It’s exactly what SFH’s in N Arl deserve for creating a Democrat stranglehold on everything. This is what they voted for, this is what they created, and it’s amazingly awesome to watch all the phony liberals freak out over MM 😂😂

MM++ -- I am a SFH owner in N Arlington and support MM. Requiring SFH zoning has been shown to be historically racist. Let's fix that.

Too bad MMH isn’t fixing the racial disparity with home ownership in Arlington. That is just a strawman MMH proponents like to use. Again, this is simply about providing more million dollar homes.

Sadly, MMH will force out more POC who are renting in Halls Hill and Green Valley, two black communities. The others with lower incomes who live in market rate housing and CAFs will continue to be ghettoized by Arlington County in South Arlington and around Arlington BLvd.

The desirable poors — older people, disabled, and white — will be allowed into North Arlington’s CAFs and set asides

Meanwhile, Plan Langston BLvd woukd have provided 1,600 affordable units and 4,600 market rate units off Langston BLvd. Scared of that possibility in an election year, the ACB pushed aside PLB for MMH that will benefit people who can well affirm to live in Arlington, just not in the type of housing to which they feel entitled. MMH will do nothing to enhance racial diversity or affordability in Arlington.


That means if any builder will bother to build the housing.

Aren’t most of the original homeowners in Hall’s Hill and Green Valley POC? Why aren’t they allowed to build equity or cash out like all the original white homeowners elsewhere in Arlington?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sincerely hope hope the MM passes.

It’s exactly what SFH’s in N Arl deserve for creating a Democrat stranglehold on everything. This is what they voted for, this is what they created, and it’s amazingly awesome to watch all the phony liberals freak out over MM 😂😂

MM++ -- I am a SFH owner in N Arlington and support MM. Requiring SFH zoning has been shown to be historically racist. Let's fix that.

+1

I'd like to see more restrictions on new construction in general re: parking, trees, lot coverage, but that's not specific to MM. I'm good with MM itself.

-SFH owner in $$$ neighborhood

Let me tell you how this goes. First they pass the MM initiative so there's no restriction on multi-family housing. Next they have some kind of "opportunity" for affordable housing. Maybe a church is being redeveloped or someone donates some land, who knows. From there, it's a fairly easy process for them to allow bonus density, extra height, etc. because we "need the housing." All of the sudden there's an approved project that covers the entire lot and is twice as high as the zoning would otherwise allow.

Wouldn't happen? They did it in my neighborhood, they will do it in yours.

So you admit, that the fear is that undesirable not rich people will move in. And not only one or two of the, but a like 10 or more. The horror!
What happened to everyone is welcome here?

The problem is infrastructure. Schools, parks, sewer systems, parking, etc. Adding more people makes quality of life worse for people already here. The underlying assumption of increased density is that we should all just be fine with it and sacrifice for the cause.

The underlying principle for my support of MM is that people have to live somewhere and density is greener than sprawl. I care about what sort of planet I'm leaving for my children. People who think sprawl is A+++ total excellence can move out beyond the Beltway to enjoy big houses and big commutes.

Density is what makes Arlington desirable. With density comes shopping and restaurants. People want the best of both worlds — the walkability and urban amenities from a dense community — and the open space of a suburb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reason Marc Elrich won in Moco (again) was because he was the only one who wasn't completely tied at the hip with developers. People saw through the phony "affordable housing" BS being spouted by his opponent as nothing more than a smokescreen for developer handouts. If you ask anyone why they voted for Elrich, almost all of them will give that as the reason. Hopefully the people of Arlington are smart enough to act similarly.

MoCo is losing economically and is committed to being a suburb to DC and Va. Let’s not be like them.