What's your favorite celebrity mystery or secret scandal?

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they were grooming actress Nazanin Boniadi,

why does he need to have someone pick a girlfriend for him?

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they were grooming actress Nazanin Boniadi,

why does he need to have someone pick a girlfriend for him?

Because he's their most important member, and they almost lost him during the Nicole Kidman years. I read a couple of the Scientology expose books a few years ago, and regardless of the rumors about Tom's sexuality, Scientology has been going to great lengths since his divorce with Nicole to make sure Tom stays fully indoctrinated with the org, and that means curating his inner circle, including love interests.

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Anonymous wrote:Anthony Bourdain's suicide.

It is so hard to believe that a successful 61 year old who had surmounted so much in his life, would impulsively hang himself just before a planned dinner with a dear friend and his colleagues while in a hotel overseas.

More importantly, he had a minor daughter whom he loved dearly and a good coparenting relationship with her mother.

IMO, I think it was a case of autoerotic asphyxiation. I think his freewheeling and "open" relationship with Asia Argento may have had something to do with it. It seems he went off the rails a bit after he met her.

Perhaps he was introduced or encouraged to use asphyxiation and it went terribly wrong for him. He was always looking for new and exciting food experiences, why not sexual?

From what I read about him, he was suicidal for a lot of his life. So it was amazing that he made it as long as he did. But yeah, Asia Argento was the catalyst, and she’s pretty terrible. I feel bad for his kid and ex-wife.

It just seems like such an odd way/place to do it. Especially if you want to be "successful." Using a terry cloth bathrobe belt from a hotel's closet rod seems a bad choice for a guy who was pretty intelligent and street-smart. Knots loosen, fabric could rip, or rod could snap/bend under the weight. He would have certainly been taller than the clothes rod. Choosing to do it while being overseas in a hotel room seems off too.

He was expected for dinner and his absence meant there was a good likelihood he might have been either interrupted or found and resuscitated. It seems like an erudite guy like Bourdain might have considered those factors. That's why I think it may have been an auto-erotic thing gone wrong, which is not unheard of for male celebrities.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you all think of the theory that Suri Cruise is Chris Klein's child?

I am interested in this one because

The timeline was vague
Tom has no other bio child
Katie is old fashioned enough to have rushed into a marriage to fix the appearance of being knocked up and unmarried while in the limelight
Suri looks like Chris Klein

Also Tom would have welcomed it. It was well known he was literally auditioning young actresses to be his wife. He and Katie matched up because they were each solutions to the other's problems. Katie gets to have a dad for her kid, who is also a big star, may help her career. Tom gets a young pretty wife, which he needs to bolster his heterosexual credibility, BONUS: baby already on the way.

I have read and heard some wild theories on Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise but I can't think of a single reason she wouldn't have just married Chris Klein if she was pregnant with his child. Or just had the child. She was 28 years old! And the kid looks exactly like Katie and Tom.

People seem to forget or let Tom Cruise's crazy cloud the fact that Tom Cruise has consistently been a huge movie star since the late '80's and that anyone that has met him will talk about his charisma and intensity. I don't think it's strange that a young, pretty B-lister would fall for him and then get in over her heard. He is STILL Hollywood gold despite everything that has happened.

Maybe Chris dumped her and she was too proud to beg. If she was 28, she was a young 28 and was not as self actualized as actresses like January Jones or Mindy Kaling who are rare in hollywood to have made the single-mom choice even at much older ages. Plus we are gossiping about them anyway. Katie recovers by marrying a big star within a year of her broken engagement.

Sure Tom is a big star. But celebrity women do not want him, for all the reasons. He could get set up with a no-name, beautiful, fellow Scientologist, but he hasn't done that. Maybe now that he's 60 he can give up pressure to be a leading man in a relationship with an ingenue.

Katie was actually linked to Josh Hartnett for a short time between her breakup with Chris and getting with Tom, so the speculation was that he was the father for a while, but Suri looks a LOT like Tom now.

As for Tom dating a Scientologist they were grooming actress Nazanin Boniadi, who was a Scientologist, to be his next girlfriend before they went with Katie Holmes. They tell the story in Going Clear, and basically tortured her because she confided with a fellow Scientologist about it.

The timing for Suri’s birth was alleged to be off by two or so months, as in Katie had her two months prior to the announced date. Her bump size kept fluctuating. That’s been years since I thought about that, but someone had pictures and it did look convincing.

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Anonymous wrote:Anthony Bourdain's suicide.

It is so hard to believe that a successful 61 year old who had surmounted so much in his life, would impulsively hang himself just before a planned dinner with a dear friend and his colleagues while in a hotel overseas.

More importantly, he had a minor daughter whom he loved dearly and a good coparenting relationship with her mother.

IMO, I think it was a case of autoerotic asphyxiation. I think his freewheeling and "open" relationship with Asia Argento may have had something to do with it. It seems he went off the rails a bit after he met her.

Perhaps he was introduced or encouraged to use asphyxiation and it went terribly wrong for him. He was always looking for new and exciting food experiences, why not sexual?

From what I read about him, he was suicidal for a lot of his life. So it was amazing that he made it as long as he did. But yeah, Asia Argento was the catalyst, and she’s pretty terrible. I feel bad for his kid and ex-wife.

It just seems like such an odd way/place to do it. Especially if you want to be "successful." Using a terry cloth bathrobe belt from a hotel's closet rod seems a bad choice for a guy who was pretty intelligent and street-smart. Knots loosen, fabric could rip, or rod could snap/bend under the weight. He would have certainly been taller than the clothes rod. Choosing to do it while being overseas in a hotel room seems off too.

He was expected for dinner and his absence meant there was a good likelihood he might have been either interrupted or found and resuscitated. It seems like an erudite guy like Bourdain might have considered those factors. That's why I think it may have been an auto-erotic thing gone wrong, which is not unheard of for male celebrities.

Hey, I was just thinking about INXS singer Michael Hutchence, who I beleived had died in an act of autoerotic asphyxiation, but appears that is not true. I just read up on it. Hutchence was in a very dramatic relationship with Paula Yates and had drug abuse problems. Also he was distraught over child custody issues, and was upset that he wasn't going to get an expected visit with his daughter. He hung himself with a belt alone in his hotel room.

The autoerotic asphyxiation idea came from Paula, who was apparently in denial over the suicide. She died of a heroin overdose in 2000. Her ex Bob Geldof raised Hutchence and Paula's daughter Tiger alongside the 4 daughters he had with Paula.

Anyway, I was surprised by the parallels between Anthony and Michael. Both had struggled with drugs and depression. Both were in fairly new and very dramatic relationships. Both took their life in a hotel room by hanging.

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Anonymous wrote:Anthony Bourdain's suicide.

It is so hard to believe that a successful 61 year old who had surmounted so much in his life, would impulsively hang himself just before a planned dinner with a dear friend and his colleagues while in a hotel overseas.

More importantly, he had a minor daughter whom he loved dearly and a good coparenting relationship with her mother.

IMO, I think it was a case of autoerotic asphyxiation. I think his freewheeling and "open" relationship with Asia Argento may have had something to do with it. It seems he went off the rails a bit after he met her.

Perhaps he was introduced or encouraged to use asphyxiation and it went terribly wrong for him. He was always looking for new and exciting food experiences, why not sexual?

From what I read about him, he was suicidal for a lot of his life. So it was amazing that he made it as long as he did. But yeah, Asia Argento was the catalyst, and she’s pretty terrible. I feel bad for his kid and ex-wife.

It just seems like such an odd way/place to do it. Especially if you want to be "successful." Using a terry cloth bathrobe belt from a hotel's closet rod seems a bad choice for a guy who was pretty intelligent and street-smart. Knots loosen, fabric could rip, or rod could snap/bend under the weight. He would have certainly been taller than the clothes rod. Choosing to do it while being overseas in a hotel room seems off too.

He was expected for dinner and his absence meant there was a good likelihood he might have been either interrupted or found and resuscitated. It seems like an erudite guy like Bourdain might have considered those factors. That's why I think it may have been an auto-erotic thing gone wrong, which is not unheard of for male celebrities.

Hey, I was just thinking about INXS singer Michael Hutchence, who I beleived had died in an act of autoerotic asphyxiation, but appears that is not true. I just read up on it. Hutchence was in a very dramatic relationship with Paula Yates and had drug abuse problems. Also he was distraught over child custody issues, and was upset that he wasn't going to get an expected visit with his daughter. He hung himself with a belt alone in his hotel room.

The autoerotic asphyxiation idea came from Paula, who was apparently in denial over the suicide. She died of a heroin overdose in 2000. Her ex Bob Geldof raised Hutchence and Paula's daughter Tiger alongside the 4 daughters he had with Paula.

Anyway, I was surprised by the parallels between Anthony and Michael. Both had struggled with drugs and depression. Both were in fairly new and very dramatic relationships. Both took their life in a hotel room by hanging.

Oh also wanted to add -- Michael did his hanging from a doorknob. Anthony, a clothing rod. I think suicidal person makes do with what is at hand.

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Anonymous wrote:Anthony Bourdain's suicide.

It is so hard to believe that a successful 61 year old who had surmounted so much in his life, would impulsively hang himself just before a planned dinner with a dear friend and his colleagues while in a hotel overseas.

More importantly, he had a minor daughter whom he loved dearly and a good coparenting relationship with her mother.

IMO, I think it was a case of autoerotic asphyxiation. I think his freewheeling and "open" relationship with Asia Argento may have had something to do with it. It seems he went off the rails a bit after he met her.

Perhaps he was introduced or encouraged to use asphyxiation and it went terribly wrong for him. He was always looking for new and exciting food experiences, why not sexual?

From what I read about him, he was suicidal for a lot of his life. So it was amazing that he made it as long as he did. But yeah, Asia Argento was the catalyst, and she’s pretty terrible. I feel bad for his kid and ex-wife.

It just seems like such an odd way/place to do it. Especially if you want to be "successful." Using a terry cloth bathrobe belt from a hotel's closet rod seems a bad choice for a guy who was pretty intelligent and street-smart. Knots loosen, fabric could rip, or rod could snap/bend under the weight. He would have certainly been taller than the clothes rod. Choosing to do it while being overseas in a hotel room seems off too.

He was expected for dinner and his absence meant there was a good likelihood he might have been either interrupted or found and resuscitated. It seems like an erudite guy like Bourdain might have considered those factors. That's why I think it may have been an auto-erotic thing gone wrong, which is not unheard of for male celebrities.

Hey, I was just thinking about INXS singer Michael Hutchence, who I beleived had died in an act of autoerotic asphyxiation, but appears that is not true. I just read up on it. Hutchence was in a very dramatic relationship with Paula Yates and had drug abuse problems. Also he was distraught over child custody issues, and was upset that he wasn't going to get an expected visit with his daughter. He hung himself with a belt alone in his hotel room.

The autoerotic asphyxiation idea came from Paula, who was apparently in denial over the suicide. She died of a heroin overdose in 2000. Her ex Bob Geldof raised Hutchence and Paula's daughter Tiger alongside the 4 daughters he had with Paula.

Anyway, I was surprised by the parallels between Anthony and Michael. Both had struggled with drugs and depression. Both were in fairly new and very dramatic relationships. Both took their life in a hotel room by hanging.

Oh also wanted to add -- Michael did his hanging from a doorknob. Anthony, a clothing rod. I think suicidal person makes do with what is at hand.

... And now I have read that 50 percent of hanging suicides are from a height below the head. Door knobs, rods, bed posts are common. The common idea of hanging is that one would totally suspend himself from up above head height, but that happens only half the time.

It's very sad, and I hate that Anthony Bourdain is gone.

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Anonymous wrote:Anthony Bourdain's suicide.

It is so hard to believe that a successful 61 year old who had surmounted so much in his life, would impulsively hang himself just before a planned dinner with a dear friend and his colleagues while in a hotel overseas.

More importantly, he had a minor daughter whom he loved dearly and a good coparenting relationship with her mother.

IMO, I think it was a case of autoerotic asphyxiation. I think his freewheeling and "open" relationship with Asia Argento may have had something to do with it. It seems he went off the rails a bit after he met her.

Perhaps he was introduced or encouraged to use asphyxiation and it went terribly wrong for him. He was always looking for new and exciting food experiences, why not sexual?

From what I read about him, he was suicidal for a lot of his life. So it was amazing that he made it as long as he did. But yeah, Asia Argento was the catalyst, and she’s pretty terrible. I feel bad for his kid and ex-wife.

It just seems like such an odd way/place to do it. Especially if you want to be "successful." Using a terry cloth bathrobe belt from a hotel's closet rod seems a bad choice for a guy who was pretty intelligent and street-smart. Knots loosen, fabric could rip, or rod could snap/bend under the weight. He would have certainly been taller than the clothes rod. Choosing to do it while being overseas in a hotel room seems off too.

He was expected for dinner and his absence meant there was a good likelihood he might have been either interrupted or found and resuscitated. It seems like an erudite guy like Bourdain might have considered those factors. That's why I think it may have been an auto-erotic thing gone wrong, which is not unheard of for male celebrities.

Hey, I was just thinking about INXS singer Michael Hutchence, who I beleived had died in an act of autoerotic asphyxiation, but appears that is not true. I just read up on it. Hutchence was in a very dramatic relationship with Paula Yates and had drug abuse problems. Also he was distraught over child custody issues, and was upset that he wasn't going to get an expected visit with his daughter. He hung himself with a belt alone in his hotel room.

The autoerotic asphyxiation idea came from Paula, who was apparently in denial over the suicide. She died of a heroin overdose in 2000. Her ex Bob Geldof raised Hutchence and Paula's daughter Tiger alongside the 4 daughters he had with Paula.

Anyway, I was surprised by the parallels between Anthony and Michael. Both had struggled with drugs and depression. Both were in fairly new and very dramatic relationships. Both took their life in a hotel room by hanging.

Yet without a note or other direct evidence of bona fide suicide there is still an element of doubt simply because there ARE cases of death by asphyxiation - and many families may not want that information exposed. That's why I think the Bourdain case fits the "Favorite Celebrity Mystery" title of this thread.

I would imagine Bourdain had a significant life insurance policy and wonder if the company flat-out refused payment under the suicide clause. However, if it was eventually ruled as accidental asphyxiation it might have bearing on the pay out.

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Anonymous wrote:Anthony Bourdain's suicide.

It is so hard to believe that a successful 61 year old who had surmounted so much in his life, would impulsively hang himself just before a planned dinner with a dear friend and his colleagues while in a hotel overseas.

More importantly, he had a minor daughter whom he loved dearly and a good coparenting relationship with her mother.

IMO, I think it was a case of autoerotic asphyxiation. I think his freewheeling and "open" relationship with Asia Argento may have had something to do with it. It seems he went off the rails a bit after he met her.

Perhaps he was introduced or encouraged to use asphyxiation and it went terribly wrong for him. He was always looking for new and exciting food experiences, why not sexual?

From what I read about him, he was suicidal for a lot of his life. So it was amazing that he made it as long as he did. But yeah, Asia Argento was the catalyst, and she’s pretty terrible. I feel bad for his kid and ex-wife.

It just seems like such an odd way/place to do it. Especially if you want to be "successful." Using a terry cloth bathrobe belt from a hotel's closet rod seems a bad choice for a guy who was pretty intelligent and street-smart. Knots loosen, fabric could rip, or rod could snap/bend under the weight. He would have certainly been taller than the clothes rod. Choosing to do it while being overseas in a hotel room seems off too.

He was expected for dinner and his absence meant there was a good likelihood he might have been either interrupted or found and resuscitated. It seems like an erudite guy like Bourdain might have considered those factors. That's why I think it may have been an auto-erotic thing gone wrong, which is not unheard of for male celebrities.

Hey, I was just thinking about INXS singer Michael Hutchence, who I beleived had died in an act of autoerotic asphyxiation, but appears that is not true. I just read up on it. Hutchence was in a very dramatic relationship with Paula Yates and had drug abuse problems. Also he was distraught over child custody issues, and was upset that he wasn't going to get an expected visit with his daughter. He hung himself with a belt alone in his hotel room.

The autoerotic asphyxiation idea came from Paula, who was apparently in denial over the suicide. She died of a heroin overdose in 2000. Her ex Bob Geldof raised Hutchence and Paula's daughter Tiger alongside the 4 daughters he had with Paula.

Anyway, I was surprised by the parallels between Anthony and Michael. Both had struggled with drugs and depression. Both were in fairly new and very dramatic relationships. Both took their life in a hotel room by hanging.

Yet without a note or other direct evidence of bona fide suicide there is still an element of doubt simply because there ARE cases of death by asphyxiation - and many families may not want that information exposed. That's why I think the Bourdain case fits the "Favorite Celebrity Mystery" title of this thread.

I would imagine Bourdain had a significant life insurance policy and wonder if the company flat-out refused payment under the suicide clause. However, if it was eventually ruled as accidental asphyxiation it might have bearing on the pay out.

I found this article, because this interests me -- how do they tell the difference between accidental asphyxiation and suicide. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2013/10/ariel-castro-autoerotic-asphyxiation-how-do-you-tell-a-suicide-from-an-autoerotic-asphyxiation-accident.html

The accidental asphyxiators: Are not wearing pants, may be wearing women's clothes, may have sexual materials nearby, may have a "quick release" mechanism set up. No note.
The suicides: They like to be fully clothed. Only 25-30% of them leave a note.

I think the really telling part is this:

"According to the National Institute of Mental Health, more than 90 percent of suicide victims also struggle with depression and other mental health or substance-abuse disorders. The absence of those risk factors in a strangulation death also might serve to indicate an autoerotic asphyxiation accident."

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Anonymous wrote:#1 for me is what the hell actually happened the night Natalie Wood drowned while on a boat with her husband Robert Wagner and Christopher Walken????

Second is Ronan Farrow’s paternity (obvs not Woody).

Woody is his father. He just looks like his mother and wears contacts to enhance his eye color. If he wasn’t Woody’s biological child, both Ronan and Mia would have been screaming the DNA results from the rooftops for years.

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Anonymous wrote:How come they seriously can’t figure out who killed Biggie and Tupac?

Right? You'd think there would be footage of this somewhere, or people talking. And who killed Jon Benet? Or kidnapped Madeleine McCann?

I think nearly everyone who has looked closely at the case agrees: it was the brother. And the parents covered it up.

Interesting. Jon Benet's brother. Any speculation on how he killed her if he did?

He hit her over the head with a flash light because she took a piece of pineapple from a bowl he was eating it out of.

This is probably the most logical answer, but something really bugs me about it:

WHY would any parent put a garrotte around their little recently deceased daughter to protect their underage son? It's not like he was going to go to prison! Couldn't they just have admitted the truth? Isn't the truth easier to move beyond easier than staging a murder??

This angle has been disproven. It was more than likely a sexual predator who was known to be in the area.

np and I'd totally believe that except for the random ransom note that had been practiced more than once on the house's pad of paper. that note was CLEARLY, IMO, written by one of the family. i think the mom, based on the handwriting expert, but i cant recall. why did they write a ransom note for their missing daughter if they didn't know what had happened or where she was? and why the plan to fly immediately on vacation?

The "experts" associated with this case were a joke.

+1 and the scene was trampled and not preserved. No way the DNA wasn’t tampered with. With the money the parents had and their relationship with the sheriff, everything was covered up.

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Anonymous wrote:#1 for me is what the hell actually happened the night Natalie Wood drowned while on a boat with her husband Robert Wagner and Christopher Walken????

Second is Ronan Farrow’s paternity (obvs not Woody).

Woody is his father. He just looks like his mother and wears contacts to enhance his eye color. If he wasn’t Woody’s biological child, both Ronan and Mia would have been screaming the DNA results from the rooftops for years.

I agree completely, he's Woody's kid. He looks like Mia and you could see the Woody a bit more pre-fame and contacts.

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Anonymous wrote:Re: Tom Cruise

When Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes started dating, I had a friend in the entertainment industry who told me the following:
Apparently everyone in Hollywood knows Tom Cruise is gay. He auditioned women to be his wife and picked Katie Holmes. They both had movies coming out and their relationship would help with publicity (Katie Holmes was not getting such amazing reviews from Batman Begins!). They had a 6 year contract.

Lo and behold, after 6 years, they got divorced!

This. There was no divorce scheme, her father didn’t rescue her, she didn’t escape. Her contract ended as planned.

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Anonymous wrote:Re: Tom Cruise

When Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes started dating, I had a friend in the entertainment industry who told me the following:
Apparently everyone in Hollywood knows Tom Cruise is gay. He auditioned women to be his wife and picked Katie Holmes. They both had movies coming out and their relationship would help with publicity (Katie Holmes was not getting such amazing reviews from Batman Begins!). They had a 6 year contract.

Lo and behold, after 6 years, they got divorced!

This. There was no divorce scheme, her father didn’t rescue her, she didn’t escape. Her contract ended as planned.

And A kid was dragged into all this?

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Ava Phillipe has supposedly dropped out of Berkeley as a senior.