Is it time for private school vouchers in Montgomery County?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just ask any remedial teacher at MoCO community college - they will tell you how unprepared the Curriculum 2.0 generation truly is….

Curriculum 2.0 is gone but the new curriculum is not much better. MCPS needs to go back to basics. Start with textbooks, teaching spelling, vocubulaary, grammar and spend way more time on reading and math. Math needs to go back to basics as well starting with math facts. And, teaching handwriting and typing. Way back when we had all that.

Heck, just give them a piece of slate, stick of chalk, and make them walk to school in the snow, uphill both ways.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just ask any remedial teacher at MoCO community college - they will tell you how unprepared the Curriculum 2.0 generation truly is….

Curriculum 2.0 is gone but the new curriculum is not much better. MCPS needs to go back to basics. Start with textbooks, teaching spelling, vocubulaary, grammar and spend way more time on reading and math. Math needs to go back to basics as well starting with math facts. And, teaching handwriting and typing. Way back when we had all that.

+1 stuff that private schools never strayed from.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just ask any remedial teacher at MoCO community college - they will tell you how unprepared the Curriculum 2.0 generation truly is….

Curriculum 2.0 is gone but the new curriculum is not much better. MCPS needs to go back to basics. Start with textbooks, teaching spelling, vocubulaary, grammar and spend way more time on reading and math. Math needs to go back to basics as well starting with math facts. And, teaching handwriting and typing. Way back when we had all that.

Heck, just give them a piece of slate, stick of chalk, and make them walk to school in the snow, uphill both ways.

+1. Folks always want to go back to “good ole times.” Meanwhile the world is moving forward. How much more time do you expect them to spend on reading and math. Its taught everyday in elementary and are the largest blocks of the day?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just ask any remedial teacher at MoCO community college - they will tell you how unprepared the Curriculum 2.0 generation truly is….

Curriculum 2.0 is gone but the new curriculum is not much better. MCPS needs to go back to basics. Start with textbooks, teaching spelling, vocubulaary, grammar and spend way more time on reading and math. Math needs to go back to basics as well starting with math facts. And, teaching handwriting and typing. Way back when we had all that.

+1 stuff that private schools never strayed from.

Hence the reason they are behind and cannot compete. It's time to move to the 21st century

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look MCPS failed when they got in bed with a multinational corporation (Pearson) for Curriculum 2.0 and stayed with it per the contract for 10 years even though they knew in first year it was utterly dismal. Dear DCUM - do you believe selecting a curriculum and training teachers in selected curriculum is a core mission of a school system? If so then they failed miserably….just wait. Dr McKnight came from Discovery Channel as a consultant. She will be purchasing Discovery Channel Shark video curriculum next because your smart Moco people aren’t minding the store.

So much lies in just one post

Don’t you get tired posting the same drivel?

Curriculum 2.0 was a terrible experiment of a school system who thought they could write their own curriculum and use their once stellar reputation to sell it. It didn’t work and a generation of students have the educational gaps 2.0 created.

Where is this entire generation of MCPS with large educational gaps that are failing them in life? Last I check MCPS students were still being accepted to college, vocational training, and moving out into the world. Curriculum 2.0 may not have been wonderful, but stop acting like it sent kids out in the workd not able to do basic mathematics or basic reading.

Ask some business owners in Montgomery County. We consistenly see potential hires that have graduated from high school and can't do basic math and who lack basic writing skills.

Sure you do. Maybe they are private schools graduates

Different businessman -

We have been trying to hire for a well paid, entry level, front desk position. We received hundreds of cover letters and resumes with typos. The schools listed for most of these candidates are MCPS high schools.

That’s your metric for how well MCPS is doing, Typos? For a position that seems you’ve not filled yet. Not to mention MCPS has 50k+ students in grades 9-12, graduates however many tens of thousands each school year. But if a couple hundred who graduated who knows when have typos on their resume and cover letter, then certainly MCPS is not doing its job???

It’s an entry level position that requires communication skills. If the job application shows errors, then that reflects that the applicant is not a good candidate for the job. As another employer has pointed out, MCPS students are not prepared for the workforce.

Nonsense, the ones who are prepared are just in college. A kid possessing the skills that you are looking for is better off in college or community college than earning near minimum wage in a job with no long term potential.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just ask any remedial teacher at MoCO community college - they will tell you how unprepared the Curriculum 2.0 generation truly is….

Curriculum 2.0 is gone but the new curriculum is not much better. MCPS needs to go back to basics. Start with textbooks, teaching spelling, vocubulaary, grammar and spend way more time on reading and math. Math needs to go back to basics as well starting with math facts. And, teaching handwriting and typing. Way back when we had all that.

Heck, just give them a piece of slate, stick of chalk, and make them walk to school in the snow, uphill both ways.

+1. Folks always want to go back to “good ole times.” Meanwhile the world is moving forward. How much more time do you expect them to spend on reading and math. Its taught everyday in elementary and are the largest blocks of the day?

Falling reading and math scores over the last decade would say that it's still not enough. Or that it's being done poorly which speaks to the curriculum. As school districts pivot to cater to the poor and ESOL, they are neglecting the high and middle performing students. A woke curriculum will make things even worse for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Look MCPS failed when they got in bed with a multinational corporation (Pearson) for Curriculum 2.0 and stayed with it per the contract for 10 years even though they knew in first year it was utterly dismal. Dear DCUM - do you believe selecting a curriculum and training teachers in selected curriculum is a core mission of a school system? If so then they failed miserably….just wait. Dr McKnight came from Discovery Channel as a consultant. She will be purchasing Discovery Channel Shark video curriculum next because your smart Moco people aren’t minding the store.

So much lies in just one post

Don’t you get tired posting the same drivel?

Curriculum 2.0 was a terrible experiment of a school system who thought they could write their own curriculum and use their once stellar reputation to sell it. It didn’t work and a generation of students have the educational gaps 2.0 created.

Where is this entire generation of MCPS with large educational gaps that are failing them in life? Last I check MCPS students were still being accepted to college, vocational training, and moving out into the world. Curriculum 2.0 may not have been wonderful, but stop acting like it sent kids out in the workd not able to do basic mathematics or basic reading.

Ask some business owners in Montgomery County. We consistenly see potential hires that have graduated from high school and can't do basic math and who lack basic writing skills.

Sure you do. Maybe they are private schools graduates

Different businessman -

We have been trying to hire for a well paid, entry level, front desk position. We received hundreds of cover letters and resumes with typos. The schools listed for most of these candidates are MCPS high schools.

That’s your metric for how well MCPS is doing, Typos? For a position that seems you’ve not filled yet. Not to mention MCPS has 50k+ students in grades 9-12, graduates however many tens of thousands each school year. But if a couple hundred who graduated who knows when have typos on their resume and cover letter, then certainly MCPS is not doing its job???

Oh no, it’s not just typos. These MCPS high school graduates lack basic grammar skills. They lack basic math skills (percentages, etc).

Are you saying that high school graduates shouldn’t be able to do Math and have decent writing skills?

I disagree, but I’m glad you are happy with the education MCPS is providing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just ask any remedial teacher at MoCO community college - they will tell you how unprepared the Curriculum 2.0 generation truly is….

Just ask any college professor at any university that teaches English or History and they’ll tell you how underwhelmed they are about students writing abilities from schools all over the country. We should also note you mentioned a remedial class.

So your argument is that school districts all over the country are not teaching students well, so it’s fine? That is exactly why parents want and deserve school choice.

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Anonymous wrote:Look MCPS failed when they got in bed with a multinational corporation (Pearson) for Curriculum 2.0 and stayed with it per the contract for 10 years even though they knew in first year it was utterly dismal. Dear DCUM - do you believe selecting a curriculum and training teachers in selected curriculum is a core mission of a school system? If so then they failed miserably….just wait. Dr McKnight came from Discovery Channel as a consultant. She will be purchasing Discovery Channel Shark video curriculum next because your smart Moco people aren’t minding the store.

So much lies in just one post

Don’t you get tired posting the same drivel?

Curriculum 2.0 was a terrible experiment of a school system who thought they could write their own curriculum and use their once stellar reputation to sell it. It didn’t work and a generation of students have the educational gaps 2.0 created.

Where is this entire generation of MCPS with large educational gaps that are failing them in life? Last I check MCPS students were still being accepted to college, vocational training, and moving out into the world. Curriculum 2.0 may not have been wonderful, but stop acting like it sent kids out in the workd not able to do basic mathematics or basic reading.

Ask some business owners in Montgomery County. We consistenly see potential hires that have graduated from high school and can't do basic math and who lack basic writing skills.

Sure you do. Maybe they are private schools graduates

Different businessman -

We have been trying to hire for a well paid, entry level, front desk position. We received hundreds of cover letters and resumes with typos. The schools listed for most of these candidates are MCPS high schools.

That’s your metric for how well MCPS is doing, Typos? For a position that seems you’ve not filled yet. Not to mention MCPS has 50k+ students in grades 9-12, graduates however many tens of thousands each school year. But if a couple hundred who graduated who knows when have typos on their resume and cover letter, then certainly MCPS is not doing its job???

It’s an entry level position that requires communication skills. If the job application shows errors, then that reflects that the applicant is not a good candidate for the job. As another employer has pointed out, MCPS students are not prepared for the workforce.

So maybe it says more about the job and the salary than anything else. Kids with more skills and, likely, more guidance, aren’t interested in this particular position at the pay that’s being offered. “Entry level” suggests low pay. The tone of this letter suggests high expectations. That’s not a great combination— when high expectations/higher salary and lower expectations/ low salary alternatives are out there. If “hundreds of cover letters and résumés “ were actually read, and Not One of them met the expectations of the job, that likely says more about the expectations than it does about the applicants.

Question: Why did someone ranting on about typos, errors, and communication skills blithely write “resume” (sic)? Was it -gasp - a careless error? Flat out ignorance?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just ask any remedial teacher at MoCO community college - they will tell you how unprepared the Curriculum 2.0 generation truly is….

Just ask any college professor at any university that teaches English or History and they’ll tell you how underwhelmed they are about students writing abilities from schools all over the country. We should also note you mentioned a remedial class.

So your argument is that school districts all over the country are not teaching students well, so it’s fine? That is exactly why parents want and deserve school choice.

They have school choice. Feel free to exercise it. Private school or homeschool are perfectly fine choices that any parent can choose for their child. No government or MCPS official is stopping them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just ask any remedial teacher at MoCO community college - they will tell you how unprepared the Curriculum 2.0 generation truly is….

Just ask any college professor at any university that teaches English or History and they’ll tell you how underwhelmed they are about students writing abilities from schools all over the country. We should also note you mentioned a remedial class.

So your argument is that school districts all over the country are not teaching students well, so it’s fine? That is exactly why parents want and deserve school choice.

You already HAVE “school choice.” Now open your wallet and shut up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just ask any remedial teacher at MoCO community college - they will tell you how unprepared the Curriculum 2.0 generation truly is….

Just ask any college professor at any university that teaches English or History and they’ll tell you how underwhelmed they are about students writing abilities from schools all over the country. We should also note you mentioned a remedial class.

So your argument is that school districts all over the country are not teaching students well, so it’s fine? That is exactly why parents want and deserve school choice.

You already HAVE “school choice.” Now open your wallet and shut up.

Nice. If you don’t like the thread, then please don’t read. You seem pretty unhinged.

[Anonymous]

Honest question. Why should the west county pay for all the liberals' who took the east county discount for their homes claiming their love of diversity to opt out of their low performing school that suffers from the plight of concentrations of poverty which they knew when they moved over there? You moved there you live with it, all the schools are the same, it is only the peer groups that are different.

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Anonymous wrote: Stupid and clueless question. Why should the west county pay for all the liberals' who took the east county discount for their homes claiming their love of diversity to opt out of their low performing school that suffers from the plight of concentrations of poverty which they knew when they moved over there? You moved there you live with it, all the schools are the same, it is only the peer groups that are different.

Corrected for you.

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Anonymous wrote: Stupid and clueless question. Why should the west county pay for all the liberals' who took the east county discount for their homes claiming their love of diversity to opt out of their low performing school that suffers from the plight of concentrations of poverty which they knew when they moved over there? You moved there you live with it, all the schools are the same, it is only the peer groups that are different.

Corrected for you.

Let me guess which side of the county you live on