Is it time for private school vouchers in Montgomery County?

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Anonymous wrote:Yup and divert all the public schools funding to private schools

You must want to cripple a already failing MCPS

Versus what? Should we continue to throw more taxpayer money at this failing system? No thanks. Families deserve an alternative.

What is so humorous about this is that these many private schools, particularly for sns students, don't exist. There are only a few really good private schools for neurotypical students and even with vouchers, they will be out of reach for most. The privates that support sns students are often much worse than public school. They have a much harder time getting good teachers.

Except religious schools, these schools are $50K+ so what will happen is the schools will just raise their prices to match the voucher.

The vouchers won't cover the cost of these schools.

No, but they will help with the cost.

Then that's a hard no on vouchers. The way you envision vouchers, it will allow those of means, e.g. UMC, who otherwise could not afford to go to private school to take a voucher and send their kids to private. The point of public schooling is to provide guaranteed schooling for everyone, including those of low or poverty level income. If the voucher amount is not enough to allow a child of low income to have the same benefits as children of high income, then the voucher money needs to stay in the school district to ensure that everyone gets the benefit of those public funds. Vouchers could be a supportable cause if anyone of any means could use that money to go to a specialty school that was better suited for them, but public funds should not be used to create greater disparity between the haves and the have nots. All that does is widen the gap between the haves and the have nots.

In any event, vouchers should be a non-starter. Taxation is not a cafeteria plan where you get to pick and choose where your tax dollars go and what benefits you get from them. Taxes are taken so that public agencies and institutions can be funded to fulfill a public responsibility. Public schools are guaranteed education. They are not the education of your choice. If you are not satisfied with the education your children get in public school, you are welcome to pay for private school tuition out of your net income. You are no more entitled to take your money out of the public schools that you don't use than I can take money out of the public works programs that pave the streets in your neighborhood just because I don't drive in your neighborhood. Tax payers don't get to take tax money out of the system for a firehouse, police station or public library in another part of the county where they don't live. You are a tax payer just like your childless neighbor or your empty nester neighbor neither of whom uses the public schools, but their taxes still go to provide public education for children who live in their community. You all benefit from having a better educated population in your community.

Except MCPS is doing a terrible job educating the poor, middle class, and wealthy students in MCPS. School choice - for all students - will give opportunities for an education that simply no longer exists in MCPS.

So you want 50k vouchers?

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Wow. MCPS sock puppets working overtime this morning. It would be nice if MCPS would work as hard to teach students.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. MCPS sock puppets working overtime this morning. It would be nice if MCPS would work as hard to teach students.

Or just reasonable rational people who don’t agree with you.

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Anonymous wrote:Look MCPS failed when they got in bed with a multinational corporation (Pearson) for Curriculum 2.0 and stayed with it per the contract for 10 years even though they knew in first year it was utterly dismal. Dear DCUM - do you believe selecting a curriculum and training teachers in selected curriculum is a core mission of a school system? If so then they failed miserably….just wait. Dr McKnight came from Discovery Channel as a consultant. She will be purchasing Discovery Channel Shark video curriculum next because your smart Moco people aren’t minding the store.

So much lies in just one post

Don’t you get tired posting the same drivel?

Curriculum 2.0 was a terrible experiment of a school system who thought they could write their own curriculum and use their once stellar reputation to sell it. It didn’t work and a generation of students have the educational gaps 2.0 created.

Where is this entire generation of MCPS with large educational gaps that are failing them in life? Last I check MCPS students were still being accepted to college, vocational training, and moving out into the world. Curriculum 2.0 may not have been wonderful, but stop acting like it sent kids out in the workd not able to do basic mathematics or basic reading.

Ask some business owners in Montgomery County. We consistenly see potential hires that have graduated from high school and can't do basic math and who lack basic writing skills.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. MCPS sock puppets working overtime this morning. It would be nice if MCPS would work as hard to teach students.

Or just reasonable rational people who don’t agree with you.

Media coverage of MCPS for the past two years would indicate that MCPS is delusional if the school system thinks parents and staff are happy with how the school system is being managed.

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Anonymous wrote:Look MCPS failed when they got in bed with a multinational corporation (Pearson) for Curriculum 2.0 and stayed with it per the contract for 10 years even though they knew in first year it was utterly dismal. Dear DCUM - do you believe selecting a curriculum and training teachers in selected curriculum is a core mission of a school system? If so then they failed miserably….just wait. Dr McKnight came from Discovery Channel as a consultant. She will be purchasing Discovery Channel Shark video curriculum next because your smart Moco people aren’t minding the store.

So much lies in just one post

Don’t you get tired posting the same drivel?

Curriculum 2.0 was a terrible experiment of a school system who thought they could write their own curriculum and use their once stellar reputation to sell it. It didn’t work and a generation of students have the educational gaps 2.0 created.

Where is this entire generation of MCPS with large educational gaps that are failing them in life? Last I check MCPS students were still being accepted to college, vocational training, and moving out into the world. Curriculum 2.0 may not have been wonderful, but stop acting like it sent kids out in the workd not able to do basic mathematics or basic reading.

Ask some business owners in Montgomery County. We consistenly see potential hires that have graduated from high school and can't do basic math and who lack basic writing skills.

Sure you do. Maybe they are private schools graduates

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Anonymous wrote:Look MCPS failed when they got in bed with a multinational corporation (Pearson) for Curriculum 2.0 and stayed with it per the contract for 10 years even though they knew in first year it was utterly dismal. Dear DCUM - do you believe selecting a curriculum and training teachers in selected curriculum is a core mission of a school system? If so then they failed miserably….just wait. Dr McKnight came from Discovery Channel as a consultant. She will be purchasing Discovery Channel Shark video curriculum next because your smart Moco people aren’t minding the store.

So much lies in just one post

Don’t you get tired posting the same drivel?

Curriculum 2.0 was a terrible experiment of a school system who thought they could write their own curriculum and use their once stellar reputation to sell it. It didn’t work and a generation of students have the educational gaps 2.0 created.

Where is this entire generation of MCPS with large educational gaps that are failing them in life? Last I check MCPS students were still being accepted to college, vocational training, and moving out into the world. Curriculum 2.0 may not have been wonderful, but stop acting like it sent kids out in the workd not able to do basic mathematics or basic reading.

Ask some business owners in Montgomery County. We consistenly see potential hires that have graduated from high school and can't do basic math and who lack basic writing skills.

Sure you do. Maybe they are private schools graduates

Different businessman -

We have been trying to hire for a well paid, entry level, front desk position. We received hundreds of cover letters and resumes with typos. The schools listed for most of these candidates are MCPS high schools.

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Just ask any remedial teacher at MoCO community college - they will tell you how unprepared the Curriculum 2.0 generation truly is….

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Anonymous wrote:Look MCPS failed when they got in bed with a multinational corporation (Pearson) for Curriculum 2.0 and stayed with it per the contract for 10 years even though they knew in first year it was utterly dismal. Dear DCUM - do you believe selecting a curriculum and training teachers in selected curriculum is a core mission of a school system? If so then they failed miserably….just wait. Dr McKnight came from Discovery Channel as a consultant. She will be purchasing Discovery Channel Shark video curriculum next because your smart Moco people aren’t minding the store.

So much lies in just one post

Don’t you get tired posting the same drivel?

Curriculum 2.0 was a terrible experiment of a school system who thought they could write their own curriculum and use their once stellar reputation to sell it. It didn’t work and a generation of students have the educational gaps 2.0 created.

Where is this entire generation of MCPS with large educational gaps that are failing them in life? Last I check MCPS students were still being accepted to college, vocational training, and moving out into the world. Curriculum 2.0 may not have been wonderful, but stop acting like it sent kids out in the workd not able to do basic mathematics or basic reading.

Ask some business owners in Montgomery County. We consistenly see potential hires that have graduated from high school and can't do basic math and who lack basic writing skills.

Sure you do. Maybe they are private schools graduates

Different businessman -

We have been trying to hire for a well paid, entry level, front desk position. We received hundreds of cover letters and resumes with typos. The schools listed for most of these candidates are MCPS high schools.

That’s your metric for how well MCPS is doing, Typos? For a position that seems you’ve not filled yet. Not to mention MCPS has 50k+ students in grades 9-12, graduates however many tens of thousands each school year. But if a couple hundred who graduated who knows when have typos on their resume and cover letter, then certainly MCPS is not doing its job???

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Anonymous wrote:Just ask any remedial teacher at MoCO community college - they will tell you how unprepared the Curriculum 2.0 generation truly is….

Just ask any college professor at any university that teaches English or History and they’ll tell you how underwhelmed they are about students writing abilities from schools all over the country. We should also note you mentioned a remedial class.

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Because their degree isn’t worth much from MCPS they are in remedial classes!

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Anonymous wrote:Look MCPS failed when they got in bed with a multinational corporation (Pearson) for Curriculum 2.0 and stayed with it per the contract for 10 years even though they knew in first year it was utterly dismal. Dear DCUM - do you believe selecting a curriculum and training teachers in selected curriculum is a core mission of a school system? If so then they failed miserably….just wait. Dr McKnight came from Discovery Channel as a consultant. She will be purchasing Discovery Channel Shark video curriculum next because your smart Moco people aren’t minding the store.

So much lies in just one post

Don’t you get tired posting the same drivel?

Curriculum 2.0 was a terrible experiment of a school system who thought they could write their own curriculum and use their once stellar reputation to sell it. It didn’t work and a generation of students have the educational gaps 2.0 created.

Where is this entire generation of MCPS with large educational gaps that are failing them in life? Last I check MCPS students were still being accepted to college, vocational training, and moving out into the world. Curriculum 2.0 may not have been wonderful, but stop acting like it sent kids out in the workd not able to do basic mathematics or basic reading.

Ask some business owners in Montgomery County. We consistenly see potential hires that have graduated from high school and can't do basic math and who lack basic writing skills.

Sure you do. Maybe they are private schools graduates

Different businessman -

We have been trying to hire for a well paid, entry level, front desk position. We received hundreds of cover letters and resumes with typos. The schools listed for most of these candidates are MCPS high schools.

That’s your metric for how well MCPS is doing, Typos? For a position that seems you’ve not filled yet. Not to mention MCPS has 50k+ students in grades 9-12, graduates however many tens of thousands each school year. But if a couple hundred who graduated who knows when have typos on their resume and cover letter, then certainly MCPS is not doing its job???

It’s an entry level position that requires communication skills. If the job application shows errors, then that reflects that the applicant is not a good candidate for the job. As another employer has pointed out, MCPS students are not prepared for the workforce.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look MCPS failed when they got in bed with a multinational corporation (Pearson) for Curriculum 2.0 and stayed with it per the contract for 10 years even though they knew in first year it was utterly dismal. Dear DCUM - do you believe selecting a curriculum and training teachers in selected curriculum is a core mission of a school system? If so then they failed miserably….just wait. Dr McKnight came from Discovery Channel as a consultant. She will be purchasing Discovery Channel Shark video curriculum next because your smart Moco people aren’t minding the store.

So much lies in just one post

Don’t you get tired posting the same drivel?

Curriculum 2.0 was a terrible experiment of a school system who thought they could write their own curriculum and use their once stellar reputation to sell it. It didn’t work and a generation of students have the educational gaps 2.0 created.

Where is this entire generation of MCPS with large educational gaps that are failing them in life? Last I check MCPS students were still being accepted to college, vocational training, and moving out into the world. Curriculum 2.0 may not have been wonderful, but stop acting like it sent kids out in the workd not able to do basic mathematics or basic reading.

Ask some business owners in Montgomery County. We consistenly see potential hires that have graduated from high school and can't do basic math and who lack basic writing skills.

Sure you do. Maybe they are private schools graduates

Different businessman -

We have been trying to hire for a well paid, entry level, front desk position. We received hundreds of cover letters and resumes with typos. The schools listed for most of these candidates are MCPS high schools.

That’s your metric for how well MCPS is doing, Typos? For a position that seems you’ve not filled yet. Not to mention MCPS has 50k+ students in grades 9-12, graduates however many tens of thousands each school year. But if a couple hundred who graduated who knows when have typos on their resume and cover letter, then certainly MCPS is not doing its job???

It’s an entry level position that requires communication skills. If the job application shows errors, then that reflects that the applicant is not a good candidate for the job. As another employer has pointed out, MCPS students are not prepared for the workforce.

I'm sorry you're having a hard time finding someone to make 35k a year.

Also that you consider that 'generous. '

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look MCPS failed when they got in bed with a multinational corporation (Pearson) for Curriculum 2.0 and stayed with it per the contract for 10 years even though they knew in first year it was utterly dismal. Dear DCUM - do you believe selecting a curriculum and training teachers in selected curriculum is a core mission of a school system? If so then they failed miserably….just wait. Dr McKnight came from Discovery Channel as a consultant. She will be purchasing Discovery Channel Shark video curriculum next because your smart Moco people aren’t minding the store.

So much lies in just one post

Don’t you get tired posting the same drivel?

Curriculum 2.0 was a terrible experiment of a school system who thought they could write their own curriculum and use their once stellar reputation to sell it. It didn’t work and a generation of students have the educational gaps 2.0 created.

Where is this entire generation of MCPS with large educational gaps that are failing them in life? Last I check MCPS students were still being accepted to college, vocational training, and moving out into the world. Curriculum 2.0 may not have been wonderful, but stop acting like it sent kids out in the workd not able to do basic mathematics or basic reading.

Ask some business owners in Montgomery County. We consistenly see potential hires that have graduated from high school and can't do basic math and who lack basic writing skills.

Sure you do. Maybe they are private schools graduates

Different businessman -

We have been trying to hire for a well paid, entry level, front desk position. We received hundreds of cover letters and resumes with typos. The schools listed for most of these candidates are MCPS high schools.

That’s your metric for how well MCPS is doing, Typos? For a position that seems you’ve not filled yet. Not to mention MCPS has 50k+ students in grades 9-12, graduates however many tens of thousands each school year. But if a couple hundred who graduated who knows when have typos on their resume and cover letter, then certainly MCPS is not doing its job???

It’s an entry level position that requires communication skills. If the job application shows errors, then that reflects that the applicant is not a good candidate for the job. As another employer has pointed out, MCPS students are not prepared for the workforce.

If the application shows errors its indicative of mistakes that should have been caught in review and as you note reflects poorly on the job applicant. That does not mean that MCPS has a whole school system is a failure and does not prepare students for the workforce. That would be like because a kid decided to drink or do drugs they obviously had bad parents. In a system as large as MCPS some are obviously going to rise to the too and some are going to fail. That doesn’t mean MCPS is wholly a failure.

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Anonymous wrote:Just ask any remedial teacher at MoCO community college - they will tell you how unprepared the Curriculum 2.0 generation truly is….

Curriculum 2.0 is gone but the new curriculum is not much better. MCPS needs to go back to basics. Start with textbooks, teaching spelling, vocubulaary, grammar and spend way more time on reading and math. Math needs to go back to basics as well starting with math facts. And, teaching handwriting and typing. Way back when we had all that.