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Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims
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Anonymous
Blake’s behavior during filming was subpar. Why the different standards for men and women? Men must behave impeccably but women can do whatever they want? breastfeed in front of everyone, send texts with sexual undertones, etc.? And then after doing this claim SH? No, no way, nope. |
Anonymous
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I think Blake behaved horribly and was not sexually harassed, but I don’t get the oh we should all be worried about our sons . It implies this behavior and situation is common which is not. The irony of the situation is that a very powerful woman took advantage of her much less power coworker. We really really don’t see that often in sexual harassment, I doubt any sons of DCUM posters will be subjected to this.
First, I think this case is unique because of the powerful players, I don’t think Blake and Ryan thought that anyone would go up against their machine. But also, I think she took advantage of the fact that it was movie that had sex scenes which of these most of our workplace don’t. Trying to manipulate conversations or meetings with the intimacy coordinator, even trying to manipulate scenes where he was blatantly supposed to be next to her dancing and falling in love/fawning over her. I just don’t want this to be an excuse, not to believe women just because Blake messed up and is completely insane. |
Anonymous
Blake was sending mixed messages, and even with that Justin appears to have remained professional. Imagine if this were your son in HS or even MS? Sometimes people are easily manipulated, we should just tell our sons to avoid females completely because what you see is not really what the female means. You have to assume they’ll accuse you of SH even if they initiate it. |
Anonymous
I have seen this happen with middle school boys. The boy was socially awkward, much less mature than the girl. Boy wants friends, girl and her friend talk to boy and boy thinks he made friends. Girls manipulate boy and boy does whatever girls tell him to do, they laugh at him, boy thinks they are all laughing together, but the girls are making fun of him. Boy does something deemed as ‘inappropriate’ in front of girls, but not inappropriate by normal standards. Girls report boy to teacher, boy is suspended from school. This is downright scary to me. |
Anonymous
He admits to having his producer partner show her a video of the producer's wife giving birth the day after they filmed the birth scene. That's tone deaf and unprofessional. He admits to repeatedly promising his production partners he would say no to her requests for oversight/control, while repeatedly telling her yes to these same requests even when she says she doesn't want to step on toes and is asking explicitly for permission. He repeatedly plays both sides, complaining about Lively to his partners while being solicitous and enabling with Lively in his communications to her. They both violated professional boundaries in their communications. It was very unprofessional on both sides. He doesn't address the allegation of telling her that he'd been speaking with her dead father. He doesn't admit to this but the fact that it's missing from his complaint altogether is concerning. That's unprofessional. He admits to hiring a friend to play the doctor who hung out between Lively's legs in the birth scene. Even if this actor was a qualified actor, hiring a friend for that specific job, and highlighting that he's a friend in introducing him to Lively, is unprofessional. There are others but these are the ones that jump out at me right now. It did not seem like a very professional set. |
Anonymous
Agree, and I do think there are things both men and women have the responsibility to do to protect themselves. Because frankly anyone can be crazy and try to manipulate things. Though I just posted and I don’t think false accusations are common at all. A few things Justin did right, it doesn’t seem that there are any instances that he was ever alone with Blake, which was probably really smart in hindsight. Obviously it also seems there were a ton of things in writing and clearly videos since they were on a film set. So that was smart to have actual receipts. Things that he could’ve done better, I think the Wayfair legal team and HR team really dropped the ball when she had him sign that nonnegotiable list of things she want changed. It was setting the stage for this very debacle. They felt like they were being extorted and they had no choice, but, if someone had maybe been a voice of reason, he could’ve prevented some of this. If Blake did actually feel uncomfortable and like she was being harassed early on, she should have definitely put up different boundaries, it would’ve made her case much stronger. She had a pattern of constantly inviting him into her private spaces, her home, her private jet, her trailer and being around her kids. They were never alone it seems like, but a lot of people are finding it hard to believe that if she was so uncomfortable with him from early on - and the fat shaming incident happened very early on, why would she do this. She also sent a lot of unprofessional and boundary crossing text herself, which makes her case look weaker. Again, I don’t think she was actually sexually harassed, but I do think if you are uncomfortable with someone and are thinking about building a case you need to really watch yourself. |
Anonymous
These aren't teenagers. These people are all in their 30s, 40s, 50s. Baldoni isn't a child. I would never condone my son behaving this way as an adult. If he were 12 (as he is now), I'd pull him aside and explain how his behavior could be misconstrued and encourage him to be more self aware. If he's still behaving this way at 40, I've failed him and also he has some responsibility for his own actions at that point. This is weird behavior for an adult in a position of authority, which Baldoni was on this production. Even if he didn't SH her, his behavior was not appropriate and he handled the situation poorly. |
Anonymous
I do hold her responsible for her behavior. She's being absolutely destroyed in the press for her behavior. If there's a double standard here, it's not to her benefit. Some people seem to think that just because Lively did dumb stuff, that means Baldoni should not be held responsible for any of his bad behavior. I disagree. He did a lot of dumb stuff related to this production and he should take responsibility for it. He's not an innocent child, as a PP keeps wanting to insinuate. He's a 40-something adult man with a successful career and who was put in charge of a 25 million movie -- a big deal. Lively was difficult and controlling, I agree. But that doesn't absolve Baldoni of his poor behavior. Thus I don't get people who act like he's some poor victim. He contributed to this bad dynamic and created an unprofessional culture on set. That's on him. He wasn't some innocent bystander. He participated. |
Anonymous
Oh, please, you can’t possibly be serious. Quit clutching your pearls, you have lost the plot. I don’t see any examples of poor behavior. Certainly nothing that would require another adult to pull him aside. Give me a break. Blake was the one who threatened to walk off this film several times, giving no thought in the hundreds of crew who who would be laid off, after not working for months during a writer and after strike. Little Miss multimillionaire gives no thought to anyone by herself. Before that she had two female assistant directors fired off this film and it’s not the first time. |
Anonymous
none of that sounds unprofessional |
Anonymous
Your standards are too low. |
Anonymous
I mean, his behavior all seems totally normal in the stressful setting of having a key player act out. It must have been extremely hard to toe the line of keeping her happy and keeping her in her lane. he’s not the first or last manager who will have difficulty with this kind of thing. The thing is, with people like BL, it is extremely hard for the non-personality disordered to figure out how to deal with them. You start out trying to apologize, then trying to defend yourself, then walk on eggshells, then trying to draw boundaries. |
Anonymous
well, I work in a office. Not on a movie set where childbirth and sex scenes are being filmed |
Anonymous
Why must Baldoni have impeccable behavior at all times while Blake can act like an offensive entitled nepo baby diva? |
Anonymous
It’s an impossible situation to be in. You will always lose with people like Blake. The key is to recognize them before it gets this far and cut all ties, stay the hell away from toxic people like this. It’s very challenging. |