Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I think the difference is that we (mostly) all understand that reality shows like "Real Housewives", etc. are scripted and fake.
Jen's book followers thought she was the real deal as she presented herself.
Now, disillusioned and disappointed, they want to see the end of the story.


“The real deal” of what though? What was there ever to worship? Even before?

I think it was the difference in media- TV vs. books published by a reputable company.

But, as it turns out, the books were based on a false front as well.

[Anonymous]

Gotta say I hate The Bachelor and the Real Housewives and Kardashians.

Also, parenting teens is rough. They need us so badly, yet are almost unapproachable. Also, by the time the teen years hit, you can see that the crap you let slide all those years is coming into fruition. For me, I am paying the price for being snarky by having to double down to prove that I am being sincere. My unsolicited advice to young parents would be to tone down or eliminate the snark completely.
Also, my husband is much more laid back and now my son see my typical concerns as unreasonable and dismissible. He is 18 and it was a rough, rough summer. Try to get on the same page as your spouse with parenting. We are at a crossroads here.

[Anonymous]

But I can say that that if we pass off bad behavior in a child as " just the way he/she is", that we shouldn't be too shocked when the bad behavior causes grown up problems.

1000%

Also, do you notice that the parents who brag about how strict they are, are the ones who spoil their kids the most? Like, every request is met with, "Well, since I am always SO tough on you, I guess I'll let you do it this one time." Over and over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there a MeCourse on Vaguely Airing Your Kid’s Dirty Laundry To The Mass Public But In A Way That Makes You Look Good?

BOOM!!!!

[Anonymous]

If my kid was a
Shithead, I’d say, my kid’s a shithead. But the way she writes about it does turn it all around to be all about HER. Some may say it’s to be protective, or get out in front of the story. But, why say anything at all?? Apart from the people in your immediate town, no one knows or gives a shit if your kid got a DUI. But when you’ve spent the last 10 years profiting off your kids as content, I guess their struggles are fair game. To me, the most protective thing would be to say nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If my kid was a
Shithead, I’d say, my kid’s a shithead. But the way she writes about it does turn it all around to be all about HER. Some may say it’s to be protective, or get out in front of the story. But, why say anything at all?? Apart from the people in your immediate town, no one knows or gives a shit if your kid got a DUI. But when you’ve spent the last 10 years profiting off your kids as content, I guess their struggles are fair game. To me, the most protective thing would be to say nothing.

That’s what she did with the first DUI. Which is I think it’s more severe

[Anonymous]

Jens very recent recount of her son Caleb and also her parenting advice for all of us:

“This first picture of Caleb makes me die of laughter. This was Easter morning in which I had carefully and lovingly created Easter bags for each kid. This is my third child telling me in no uncertain terms that I could F off with this particular lollipop. He expressed his immediate disapproval and threw it on the ground while I howled with laughter and reached for my camera…..

This child was born this way. He was cranky, irritable, and hilarious. He made us laugh 100 times a day with his crabby old man demeanor. He found his own brand of sunshine later, but dear lord he was here for NONE OF IT from the jump. (Please recall again that this was the child who walked out of his own high school graduation midway through.)

“As everyone is getting ready for back to school, please let your rogue children be who they are.”

“I have always said: Parent the kid you have, not the kid you were. You will spare both of you so much grief. Let them be exactly who they are. Find a way to delight in their weird little personality, even if they throw your lollipop on the ground in a blaze of glory. That kid might grow up to make you laugh harder than any of them.”

Awesome. Thanks Jen.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think it’s Caleb. She’s over centering herself in his drama. I think there’s trouble brewing with one of the golden children. I feel sorry for them because she’s putting it out there for public consumption. That’s absolutely what the vaguebooking is. She could have said nothing. Worrying less about risk management and damage to her brand would have been the kinder, most protective, thing to do. I’m sure people started digging as soon as she posted. Acquaintances started texting around. What was her end game with the post? Attention or some form of damage control?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just heard Alisa Childers (who has done a podcast episode just on Jen) say, to paraphrase, “almost every deconstruction story begins with a rejection of biblical sexual ethics. Especially the public ones.”

🤯 So obvious now but I’d never noticed before she said that.

In my personal experience, if it’s not to justify homosexuality, it’s to justify cheating on your wife.

I'm also an Alisa Childer's fan! Really liked her book "Another Gospel." It helped me understand the draw of people like Jen Hatmaker and others like her.

I'd love to listen to that podccast...any idea which one it is? I looked though them but don't see a "Jen Hatmaker one"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there a MeCourse on Vaguely Airing Your Kid’s Dirty Laundry To The Mass Public But In A Way That Makes You Look Good?

SERIOUSLY

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s Caleb. She’s over centering herself in his drama. I think there’s trouble brewing with one of the golden children. I feel sorry for them because she’s putting it out there for public consumption. That’s absolutely what the vaguebooking is. She could have said nothing. Worrying less about risk management and damage to her brand would have been the kinder, most protective, thing to do. I’m sure people started digging as soon as she posted. Acquaintances started texting around. What was her end game with the post? Attention or some form of damage control?

Is all of this referring to the "monday night love letter" post, or did I miss a story?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s Caleb. She’s over centering herself in his drama. I think there’s trouble brewing with one of the golden children. I feel sorry for them because she’s putting it out there for public consumption. That’s absolutely what the vaguebooking is. She could have said nothing. Worrying less about risk management and damage to her brand would have been the kinder, most protective, thing to do. I’m sure people started digging as soon as she posted. Acquaintances started texting around. What was her end game with the post? Attention or some form of damage control?

Is all of this referring to the "monday night love letter" post, or did I miss a story?

Nope, that's the one

[Anonymous]

We should guess what the unnamed disappointment was - but wrong answers only.

I’ll start - Ben joined the Young Republicans group in college and now Jen has to atone for his sins with the woke police.

[Anonymous]

One of her kids comes out as a confessing, evangelical Christian. Like maybe a Baptist. Could you imagine the horror?

[Anonymous]

Sydney ordered Beauty Counter WITHOUT using Jen’s discount code!