FCPS Boundary Review Updates

[Anonymous]

They took some Cub Run kids out of Franklin.

[Anonymous]

Was there any move of Waples Mill- Franklin- Oakton kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's up: https://www.fcps.edu/april-25-2025-superintendents-boundary-review-advisory-committee-meeting

Thanks for posting this so promptly. FYI, the "split feeder" presentation doesn't really seem to be "incremental" to the changes in the "attendance island" presentation.

To take two examples involving the McLean pyramid:

1. In the 4/11 presentation, there is a proposal to move an area bounded by Route 123, the Toll Road, and Dolley Madison that feeds to Westgate from Kilmer/Marshall to Longfellow/McLean. See Slides 29-30 of 4/11 presentation. However, in the 4/25 presentation, they ignore that area when proposing to eliminate the current split of Westgate to Kilmer/Marshall and Longfellow/McLean. See Slide 16 of 4/25 presentation. In other words, the 4/25 proposal to move some kids from Westgate to Franklin Sherman to eliminate the split feeder at Westgate ignores the area they proposed to reassign to Longfellow/McLean on 4/11. [A separate issue is that the 4/25 proposal would reassign kids who live in the townhouses next door to Westgate and can easily walk there to Franklin Sherman.]

2. In the 4/11 presentation, there is an odd proposal to turn Longfellow, which currently feeds entirely to McLean, into a new split feeder to McLean and Falls Church. See Slides 29 and 33 of 4/11 presentation. This new split feeder, which would meet the criteria for attention in the 4/25 proposal since fewer than 10% of the Longfellow students would feed to Falls Church, is not addressed in the 4/25 presentation.

Also, once again, it's worth noting that Thru's analysis is all predicated on treating modular seats as equivalent to permanent seats when calculating utilization. I'm not saying that's wrong, since a lot of folks are fine with kids in modulars, but they were suggesting previously they wanted to get kids out of both trailers and modulars. So, for example, if you look at their proposal for Holmes MS, where they'd reassign Bren Mar Park ES back to Annandale from Edison, they are projecting Annandale would be at 101% of program capacity with this change, based on a program capacity of 2471. The latest CIP states that Annandale's program capacity excluding the 14-unit modular is only 2157.

[Anonymous]

This was stupid. No discussion of Carson, which sends kids to FOUR different high schools or Crossfield which is literally right next that weird Navy Island they insist on sending to Oak Hill. You can literally see the split feeder boundary for Crossfield in the Oak Hill map. What a waste of money - I can't believe they didn't address Carson. WTF????

[Anonymous]

That's interesting. I would have put that section of Cub Run to Brookfield instead of Lee's Corner, and then make Brookfield only go to Rocky Run instead of the split feeder, but perhaps it's too many kids for Chantilly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was stupid. No discussion of Carson, which sends kids to FOUR different high schools or Crossfield which is literally right next that weird Navy Island they insist on sending to Oak Hill. You can literally see the split feeder boundary for Crossfield in the Oak Hill map. What a waste of money - I can't believe they didn't address Carson. WTF????

They keep assuming a new Western HS will materialize out of thin air for Carson to feed into … lol.

[Anonymous]

Would they send the Oak Hill families they are moving to Fox Mill to South Lakes instead of Chantilly?? I think that's the Bradley Farm neighborhood?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was stupid. No discussion of Carson, which sends kids to FOUR different high schools or Crossfield which is literally right next that weird Navy Island they insist on sending to Oak Hill. You can literally see the split feeder boundary for Crossfield in the Oak Hill map. What a waste of money - I can't believe they didn't address Carson. WTF????

I don't know if this is relevant to Carson, but if you look at the "guiding principles" on page 6 of the 4/25 presentation, there is a statement that "[a] split-feeder school was not corrected if the school building itself sits in the smaller (< 25 %) area." I'm familiar with one split feeder that apparently wasn't addressed based on that approach, which will make some folks who did not want to get moved happy.

[Anonymous]

Why are we moving 167 kids away from an under capacity ES to make it even MORE under capacity? Colin Powell ES will be 67%%%?????

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you think the three boundary adjustments will be combined? I’m trying to figure out how boundary adjustments for attendance islands, split feeders and population with work in the end. For example, if by eliminating an attendance island and split feeder creates over capacity for a MS or HS, then what? A certain portion of those neighborhoods are sent to a different nearby school?

The main thing people are waiting to see is if there are separate analyses around (1) attendance islands, (2) split feeders, and (3) capacity issues, or whether it's iterative, with refinements based on the feedback received on the prior scenarios.

If they are separate analyses, then people won't really know the direction in which they are heading (i.e., what their real priorities are), but if the analysis is iterative it will seem like whatever final recommendation emerges is essentially a fait accompli.

And I think most people still question the need for this entire exercise - the proverbial "is the juice worth the squeeze" at a time of flat enrollments with likely declines on the horizon.

Apparently not iterative. No discussion of shrevewoood becoming a split feeder to Kilmer and Longfellow when it’s currently just Kilmer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was stupid. No discussion of Carson, which sends kids to FOUR different high schools or Crossfield which is literally right next that weird Navy Island they insist on sending to Oak Hill. You can literally see the split feeder boundary for Crossfield in the Oak Hill map. What a waste of money - I can't believe they didn't address Carson. WTF????

I don't know if this is relevant to Carson, but if you look at the "guiding principles" on page 6 of the 4/25 presentation, there is a statement that "[a] split-feeder school was not corrected if the school building itself sits in the smaller (< 25 %) area." I'm familiar with one split feeder that apparently wasn't addressed based on that approach, which will make some folks who did not want to get moved happy.

That explains Crossfield. The people in that neighborhood WANT to move to Carson/Oakton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That's interesting. I would have put that section of Cub Run to Brookfield instead of Lee's Corner, and then make Brookfield only go to Rocky Run instead of the split feeder, but perhaps it's too many kids for Chantilly.

Also this would free up some space for the Franklin Farm kids to go to Lee's Corner instead of Oak Hill. I think the western part of Franklin Farm goes to Lee's Corner or is it mainly Franklin Glen? Both Lee's Corner and Brookfield are getting expansions and projected to have low capacity afterwards.

Also, would this screw up Poplar tree AAP? Cub Run AAP has Poplar tree as center, now they would go to... Oak Hill as a center?

[Anonymous]

Ouch... move from Vienna ES (rated 8/10) to Freedom Hill (rated 3/10) is going to rile up folks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ouch... move from Vienna ES (rated 8/10) to Freedom Hill (rated 3/10) is going to rile up folks.

Great School Ratings are not good ratings, PP. Please go away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ouch... move from Vienna ES (rated 8/10) to Freedom Hill (rated 3/10) is going to rile up folks.

The roughly 8% of Vienna ES kids (28 per the analysis) who go to Kilmer/Marshall rather than Thoreau/Madison would go to another school that feeds 100% to Kilmer/Marshall (Freedom Hill). They would just be going to school with their future MS/HS classmates earlier.