ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:So talking with a friend of mine at the ECNL showcase this weekend. Also I’ll say he told me last summer at surf cup about the age change that was coming and has some very reliable people that he knows. Here is the info I got. It sounds like the Aug hater might get their way and kids will play within their grade within the new 12 month window.
Well sort of…

According to him ECNL is most likely breaking into 3 different groups. Youngers U10-12 and U13-15 and older recruiting ages U16,17,19.
U10-15 will no longer play showcases but will have various cups throughout the year with divisions and tournament champions. Strong RL teams will be invited to these as well.

U10-15 will be based only off the Aug to July 12 month window. However U16/17 will be based off players grades between that 12 month window. So some kids will be pushed up for showcases so they will play against kids within their same grade. League play is still tbd. He didn’t know for sure.
U19 will be for any player who is a senior in high school, age will not matter as long as they are under 19 at the start their club season.

He also has more questions than answers at this point but this is what’s being discussed by ECNL/US Club admin team.

Good luck with all that.

Instead of making things ridiculously complicated. Just implement a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school.

Do this and all the issues go away.

Or make everything stupid complicated and watch while GA implements a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school. GA will look more professional because they're not letting players play down a grade and everything will be less complicated for GA to implement.

If Aug and younger players arent good enough for the A team with their grade they should play on the B team with their grade. They'll develop faster playing up with players their grade in school.

Most clubs will put aug and younger players on their grade B team because they don't want to deal with players playing on a grade down team. But also theres likely more roster spots available on the b team and nobody will want short timers playing down a grade on A team rosters.

People who understand RAE would suggest that being the youngest is the worst scenario for almost all kids. Unless you selfishly don't want to have to compete with older kids and are trying to shame them into playing up which is clearly your bad intention, you would get this. Kick and scream all you want, you are selfish and self centered.

This is what B teams are designed for.

Please explain how RAE affects B teams. I'll wait.

You will need to be less ignorant to be learn. First August hater now B team hater. It's like you only know one girls team. Your DD and know nothing about the youth soccer ecosystem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So talking with a friend of mine at the ECNL showcase this weekend. Also I’ll say he told me last summer at surf cup about the age change that was coming and has some very reliable people that he knows. Here is the info I got. It sounds like the Aug hater might get their way and kids will play within their grade within the new 12 month window.
Well sort of…

According to him ECNL is most likely breaking into 3 different groups. Youngers U10-12 and U13-15 and older recruiting ages U16,17,19.
U10-15 will no longer play showcases but will have various cups throughout the year with divisions and tournament champions. Strong RL teams will be invited to these as well.

U10-15 will be based only off the Aug to July 12 month window. However U16/17 will be based off players grades between that 12 month window. So some kids will be pushed up for showcases so they will play against kids within their same grade. League play is still tbd. He didn’t know for sure.
U19 will be for any player who is a senior in high school, age will not matter as long as they are under 19 at the start their club season.

He also has more questions than answers at this point but this is what’s being discussed by ECNL/US Club admin team.

Will take 2-3 years for ECNL to go GY for juniors and seniors but it does match up with the rumors the past few months.

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Anonymous wrote:So talking with a friend of mine at the ECNL showcase this weekend. Also I’ll say he told me last summer at surf cup about the age change that was coming and has some very reliable people that he knows. Here is the info I got. It sounds like the Aug hater might get their way and kids will play within their grade within the new 12 month window.
Well sort of…

According to him ECNL is most likely breaking into 3 different groups. Youngers U10-12 and U13-15 and older recruiting ages U16,17,19.
U10-15 will no longer play showcases but will have various cups throughout the year with divisions and tournament champions. Strong RL teams will be invited to these as well.

U10-15 will be based only off the Aug to July 12 month window. However U16/17 will be based off players grades between that 12 month window. So some kids will be pushed up for showcases so they will play against kids within their same grade. League play is still tbd. He didn’t know for sure.
U19 will be for any player who is a senior in high school, age will not matter as long as they are under 19 at the start their club season.

He also has more questions than answers at this point but this is what’s being discussed by ECNL/US Club admin team.

Will take 2-3 years for ECNL to go GY for juniors and seniors but it does match up with the rumors the past few months.

ECNL already plays u18/u19 ie juniors and seniors on the same team this is GY.

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Anonymous wrote:So talking with a friend of mine at the ECNL showcase this weekend. Also I’ll say he told me last summer at surf cup about the age change that was coming and has some very reliable people that he knows. Here is the info I got. It sounds like the Aug hater might get their way and kids will play within their grade within the new 12 month window.
Well sort of…

According to him ECNL is most likely breaking into 3 different groups. Youngers U10-12 and U13-15 and older recruiting ages U16,17,19.
U10-15 will no longer play showcases but will have various cups throughout the year with divisions and tournament champions. Strong RL teams will be invited to these as well.

U10-15 will be based only off the Aug to July 12 month window. However U16/17 will be based off players grades between that 12 month window. So some kids will be pushed up for showcases so they will play against kids within their same grade. League play is still tbd. He didn’t know for sure.
U19 will be for any player who is a senior in high school, age will not matter as long as they are under 19 at the start their club season.

He also has more questions than answers at this point but this is what’s being discussed by ECNL/US Club admin team.

Good luck with all that.

Instead of making things ridiculously complicated. Just implement a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school.

Do this and all the issues go away.

Or make everything stupid complicated and watch while GA implements a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school. GA will look more professional because they're not letting players play down a grade and everything will be less complicated for GA to implement.

If Aug and younger players arent good enough for the A team with their grade they should play on the B team with their grade. They'll develop faster playing up with players their grade in school.

Most clubs will put aug and younger players on their grade B team because they don't want to deal with players playing on a grade down team. But also theres likely more roster spots available on the b team and nobody will want short timers playing down a grade on A team rosters.

People who understand RAE would suggest that being the youngest is the worst scenario for almost all kids. Unless you selfishly don't want to have to compete with older kids and are trying to shame them into playing up which is clearly your bad intention, you would get this. Kick and scream all you want, you are selfish and self centered.

This is what B teams are designed for.

Please explain how RAE affects B teams. I'll wait.

You will need to be less ignorant to be learn. First August hater now B team hater. It's like you only know one girls team. Your DD and know nothing about the youth soccer ecosystem.

Hahahaha so you cant explain how RAE snd B teams interact.

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Anonymous wrote:So talking with a friend of mine at the ECNL showcase this weekend. Also I’ll say he told me last summer at surf cup about the age change that was coming and has some very reliable people that he knows. Here is the info I got. It sounds like the Aug hater might get their way and kids will play within their grade within the new 12 month window.
Well sort of…

According to him ECNL is most likely breaking into 3 different groups. Youngers U10-12 and U13-15 and older recruiting ages U16,17,19.
U10-15 will no longer play showcases but will have various cups throughout the year with divisions and tournament champions. Strong RL teams will be invited to these as well.

U10-15 will be based only off the Aug to July 12 month window. However U16/17 will be based off players grades between that 12 month window. So some kids will be pushed up for showcases so they will play against kids within their same grade. League play is still tbd. He didn’t know for sure.
U19 will be for any player who is a senior in high school, age will not matter as long as they are under 19 at the start their club season.

He also has more questions than answers at this point but this is what’s being discussed by ECNL/US Club admin team.

Good luck with all that.

Instead of making things ridiculously complicated. Just implement a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school.

Do this and all the issues go away.

Or make everything stupid complicated and watch while GA implements a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school. GA will look more professional because they're not letting players play down a grade and everything will be less complicated for GA to implement.

If Aug and younger players arent good enough for the A team with their grade they should play on the B team with their grade. They'll develop faster playing up with players their grade in school.

Most clubs will put aug and younger players on their grade B team because they don't want to deal with players playing on a grade down team. But also theres likely more roster spots available on the b team and nobody will want short timers playing down a grade on A team rosters.

People who understand RAE would suggest that being the youngest is the worst scenario for almost all kids. Unless you selfishly don't want to have to compete with older kids and are trying to shame them into playing up which is clearly your bad intention, you would get this. Kick and scream all you want, you are selfish and self centered.

This is what B teams are designed for.

Please explain how RAE affects B teams. I'll wait.

You will need to be less ignorant to be learn. First August hater now B team hater. It's like you only know one girls team. Your DD and know nothing about the youth soccer ecosystem.

Hahahaha so you cant explain how RAE snd B teams interact.

Regardless of grade, the best team for an Aug bday is the Aug-Jul team, especially at younger ages. And if an Aug kid plays in the higher age group to stay in grade, all things being equal, they'll be at a disadvantage and more likely to quit at some point.

Currently, more Q3-Q4 players end up on B teams, which if they never quite develop enough to eventually get promoted, they may also quit, unless the goal is just to play HS.

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Anonymous wrote:So talking with a friend of mine at the ECNL showcase this weekend. Also I’ll say he told me last summer at surf cup about the age change that was coming and has some very reliable people that he knows. Here is the info I got. It sounds like the Aug hater might get their way and kids will play within their grade within the new 12 month window.
Well sort of…

According to him ECNL is most likely breaking into 3 different groups. Youngers U10-12 and U13-15 and older recruiting ages U16,17,19.
U10-15 will no longer play showcases but will have various cups throughout the year with divisions and tournament champions. Strong RL teams will be invited to these as well.

U10-15 will be based only off the Aug to July 12 month window. However U16/17 will be based off players grades between that 12 month window. So some kids will be pushed up for showcases so they will play against kids within their same grade. League play is still tbd. He didn’t know for sure.
U19 will be for any player who is a senior in high school, age will not matter as long as they are under 19 at the start their club season.

He also has more questions than answers at this point but this is what’s being discussed by ECNL/US Club admin team.

Good luck with all that.

Instead of making things ridiculously complicated. Just implement a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school.

Do this and all the issues go away.

Or make everything stupid complicated and watch while GA implements a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school. GA will look more professional because they're not letting players play down a grade and everything will be less complicated for GA to implement.

If Aug and younger players arent good enough for the A team with their grade they should play on the B team with their grade. They'll develop faster playing up with players their grade in school.

Most clubs will put aug and younger players on their grade B team because they don't want to deal with players playing on a grade down team. But also theres likely more roster spots available on the b team and nobody will want short timers playing down a grade on A team rosters.

People who understand RAE would suggest that being the youngest is the worst scenario for almost all kids. Unless you selfishly don't want to have to compete with older kids and are trying to shame them into playing up which is clearly your bad intention, you would get this. Kick and scream all you want, you are selfish and self centered.

This is what B teams are designed for.

Please explain how RAE affects B teams. I'll wait.

You will need to be less ignorant to be learn. First August hater now B team hater. It's like you only know one girls team. Your DD and know nothing about the youth soccer ecosystem.

Hahahaha so you cant explain how RAE snd B teams interact.

I can!

Because of RAE most of the players on the A team will be closer to the oldest eligibility date. Conversely because of RAE most of the players on the B team will be closer to the youngest eligibility date.

See how it works? As players get older early developer A team players will fall to the side and younger B team players will take their position.

Playing down a grade screws all this up because players arent used to playing against players that are their grade in school. So instead of simply jumping from the B team to the A team they have to make the B team a grade older first then potentially make the A team. You're stacking the deck against your kid playing them down a grade. But im sure those u12 wins are sweet.

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Anonymous wrote:So talking with a friend of mine at the ECNL showcase this weekend. Also I’ll say he told me last summer at surf cup about the age change that was coming and has some very reliable people that he knows. Here is the info I got. It sounds like the Aug hater might get their way and kids will play within their grade within the new 12 month window.
Well sort of…

According to him ECNL is most likely breaking into 3 different groups. Youngers U10-12 and U13-15 and older recruiting ages U16,17,19.
U10-15 will no longer play showcases but will have various cups throughout the year with divisions and tournament champions. Strong RL teams will be invited to these as well.

U10-15 will be based only off the Aug to July 12 month window. However U16/17 will be based off players grades between that 12 month window. So some kids will be pushed up for showcases so they will play against kids within their same grade. League play is still tbd. He didn’t know for sure.
U19 will be for any player who is a senior in high school, age will not matter as long as they are under 19 at the start their club season.

He also has more questions than answers at this point but this is what’s being discussed by ECNL/US Club admin team.

Good luck with all that.

Instead of making things ridiculously complicated. Just implement a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school.

Do this and all the issues go away.

Or make everything stupid complicated and watch while GA implements a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school. GA will look more professional because they're not letting players play down a grade and everything will be less complicated for GA to implement.

If Aug and younger players arent good enough for the A team with their grade they should play on the B team with their grade. They'll develop faster playing up with players their grade in school.

Most clubs will put aug and younger players on their grade B team because they don't want to deal with players playing on a grade down team. But also theres likely more roster spots available on the b team and nobody will want short timers playing down a grade on A team rosters.

People who understand RAE would suggest that being the youngest is the worst scenario for almost all kids. Unless you selfishly don't want to have to compete with older kids and are trying to shame them into playing up which is clearly your bad intention, you would get this. Kick and scream all you want, you are selfish and self centered.

This is what B teams are designed for.

Please explain how RAE affects B teams. I'll wait.

Suggesting younger and often smaller kids be assigned to lower level teams is a big reason why the national teams struggle. When coaches don't pick players based on talent but instead pick them on size to get wins when the sizes catch up the younger/smaller players will have moved on and the bigger players won't be very good soccer players. On the boys side there is value in them having a different age cutoff to combat RAE than the other leagues but economics won't allow this to stay very long.

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Anonymous wrote:So talking with a friend of mine at the ECNL showcase this weekend. Also I’ll say he told me last summer at surf cup about the age change that was coming and has some very reliable people that he knows. Here is the info I got. It sounds like the Aug hater might get their way and kids will play within their grade within the new 12 month window.
Well sort of…

According to him ECNL is most likely breaking into 3 different groups. Youngers U10-12 and U13-15 and older recruiting ages U16,17,19.
U10-15 will no longer play showcases but will have various cups throughout the year with divisions and tournament champions. Strong RL teams will be invited to these as well.

U10-15 will be based only off the Aug to July 12 month window. However U16/17 will be based off players grades between that 12 month window. So some kids will be pushed up for showcases so they will play against kids within their same grade. League play is still tbd. He didn’t know for sure.
U19 will be for any player who is a senior in high school, age will not matter as long as they are under 19 at the start their club season.

He also has more questions than answers at this point but this is what’s being discussed by ECNL/US Club admin team.

Good luck with all that.

Instead of making things ridiculously complicated. Just implement a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school.

Do this and all the issues go away.

Or make everything stupid complicated and watch while GA implements a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school. GA will look more professional because they're not letting players play down a grade and everything will be less complicated for GA to implement.

If Aug and younger players arent good enough for the A team with their grade they should play on the B team with their grade. They'll develop faster playing up with players their grade in school.

Most clubs will put aug and younger players on their grade B team because they don't want to deal with players playing on a grade down team. But also theres likely more roster spots available on the b team and nobody will want short timers playing down a grade on A team rosters.

People who understand RAE would suggest that being the youngest is the worst scenario for almost all kids. Unless you selfishly don't want to have to compete with older kids and are trying to shame them into playing up which is clearly your bad intention, you would get this. Kick and scream all you want, you are selfish and self centered.

This is what B teams are designed for.

Please explain how RAE affects B teams. I'll wait.

You will need to be less ignorant to be learn. First August hater now B team hater. It's like you only know one girls team. Your DD and know nothing about the youth soccer ecosystem.

Hahahaha so you cant explain how RAE snd B teams interact.

I can!

Because of RAE most of the players on the A team will be closer to the oldest eligibility date. Conversely because of RAE most of the players on the B team will be closer to the youngest eligibility date.

See how it works? As players get older early developer A team players will fall to the side and younger B team players will take their position.

Playing down a grade screws all this up because players arent used to playing against players that are their grade in school. So instead of simply jumping from the B team to the A team they have to make the B team a grade older first then potentially make the A team. You're stacking the deck against your kid playing them down a grade. But im sure those u12 wins are sweet.

You ignored cumulative effects which has always been the crux of the issue. Hand waving everybody catches up goes against the science and is made up by people trying to ignore the issue.

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Anonymous wrote:So talking with a friend of mine at the ECNL showcase this weekend. Also I’ll say he told me last summer at surf cup about the age change that was coming and has some very reliable people that he knows. Here is the info I got. It sounds like the Aug hater might get their way and kids will play within their grade within the new 12 month window.
Well sort of…

According to him ECNL is most likely breaking into 3 different groups. Youngers U10-12 and U13-15 and older recruiting ages U16,17,19.
U10-15 will no longer play showcases but will have various cups throughout the year with divisions and tournament champions. Strong RL teams will be invited to these as well.

U10-15 will be based only off the Aug to July 12 month window. However U16/17 will be based off players grades between that 12 month window. So some kids will be pushed up for showcases so they will play against kids within their same grade. League play is still tbd. He didn’t know for sure.
U19 will be for any player who is a senior in high school, age will not matter as long as they are under 19 at the start their club season.

He also has more questions than answers at this point but this is what’s being discussed by ECNL/US Club admin team.

Good luck with all that.

Instead of making things ridiculously complicated. Just implement a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school.

Do this and all the issues go away.

Or make everything stupid complicated and watch while GA implements a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school. GA will look more professional because they're not letting players play down a grade and everything will be less complicated for GA to implement.

If Aug and younger players arent good enough for the A team with their grade they should play on the B team with their grade. They'll develop faster playing up with players their grade in school.

Most clubs will put aug and younger players on their grade B team because they don't want to deal with players playing on a grade down team. But also theres likely more roster spots available on the b team and nobody will want short timers playing down a grade on A team rosters.

People who understand RAE would suggest that being the youngest is the worst scenario for almost all kids. Unless you selfishly don't want to have to compete with older kids and are trying to shame them into playing up which is clearly your bad intention, you would get this. Kick and scream all you want, you are selfish and self centered.

This is what B teams are designed for.

Please explain how RAE affects B teams. I'll wait.

Suggesting younger and often smaller kids be assigned to lower level teams is a big reason why the national teams struggle. When coaches don't pick players based on talent but instead pick them on size to get wins when the sizes catch up the younger/smaller players will have moved on and the bigger players won't be very good soccer players. On the boys side there is value in them having a different age cutoff to combat RAE than the other leagues but economics won't allow this to stay very long.

I never suggested anything of the sort but nice try RAE lover.

I said if your kid doesnt make the A team thats why B teams exist.

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Anonymous wrote:So talking with a friend of mine at the ECNL showcase this weekend. Also I’ll say he told me last summer at surf cup about the age change that was coming and has some very reliable people that he knows. Here is the info I got. It sounds like the Aug hater might get their way and kids will play within their grade within the new 12 month window.
Well sort of…

According to him ECNL is most likely breaking into 3 different groups. Youngers U10-12 and U13-15 and older recruiting ages U16,17,19.
U10-15 will no longer play showcases but will have various cups throughout the year with divisions and tournament champions. Strong RL teams will be invited to these as well.

U10-15 will be based only off the Aug to July 12 month window. However U16/17 will be based off players grades between that 12 month window. So some kids will be pushed up for showcases so they will play against kids within their same grade. League play is still tbd. He didn’t know for sure.
U19 will be for any player who is a senior in high school, age will not matter as long as they are under 19 at the start their club season.

He also has more questions than answers at this point but this is what’s being discussed by ECNL/US Club admin team.

Good luck with all that.

Instead of making things ridiculously complicated. Just implement a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school.

Do this and all the issues go away.

Or make everything stupid complicated and watch while GA implements a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school. GA will look more professional because they're not letting players play down a grade and everything will be less complicated for GA to implement.

If Aug and younger players arent good enough for the A team with their grade they should play on the B team with their grade. They'll develop faster playing up with players their grade in school.

Most clubs will put aug and younger players on their grade B team because they don't want to deal with players playing on a grade down team. But also theres likely more roster spots available on the b team and nobody will want short timers playing down a grade on A team rosters.

People who understand RAE would suggest that being the youngest is the worst scenario for almost all kids. Unless you selfishly don't want to have to compete with older kids and are trying to shame them into playing up which is clearly your bad intention, you would get this. Kick and scream all you want, you are selfish and self centered.

This is what B teams are designed for.

Please explain how RAE affects B teams. I'll wait.

You will need to be less ignorant to be learn. First August hater now B team hater. It's like you only know one girls team. Your DD and know nothing about the youth soccer ecosystem.

Hahahaha so you cant explain how RAE snd B teams interact.

I can!

Because of RAE most of the players on the A team will be closer to the oldest eligibility date. Conversely because of RAE most of the players on the B team will be closer to the youngest eligibility date.

See how it works? As players get older early developer A team players will fall to the side and younger B team players will take their position.

Playing down a grade screws all this up because players arent used to playing against players that are their grade in school. So instead of simply jumping from the B team to the A team they have to make the B team a grade older first then potentially make the A team. You're stacking the deck against your kid playing them down a grade. But im sure those u12 wins are sweet.

You ignored cumulative effects which has always been the crux of the issue. Hand waving everybody catches up goes against the science and is made up by people trying to ignore the issue.

This poster has been corrected hundreds of times. Let him talk to himself so we can move on and discuss something that actually matters.

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Anonymous wrote:So talking with a friend of mine at the ECNL showcase this weekend. Also I’ll say he told me last summer at surf cup about the age change that was coming and has some very reliable people that he knows. Here is the info I got. It sounds like the Aug hater might get their way and kids will play within their grade within the new 12 month window.
Well sort of…

According to him ECNL is most likely breaking into 3 different groups. Youngers U10-12 and U13-15 and older recruiting ages U16,17,19.
U10-15 will no longer play showcases but will have various cups throughout the year with divisions and tournament champions. Strong RL teams will be invited to these as well.

U10-15 will be based only off the Aug to July 12 month window. However U16/17 will be based off players grades between that 12 month window. So some kids will be pushed up for showcases so they will play against kids within their same grade. League play is still tbd. He didn’t know for sure.
U19 will be for any player who is a senior in high school, age will not matter as long as they are under 19 at the start their club season.

He also has more questions than answers at this point but this is what’s being discussed by ECNL/US Club admin team.

Good luck with all that.

Instead of making things ridiculously complicated. Just implement a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school.

Do this and all the issues go away.

Or make everything stupid complicated and watch while GA implements a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school. GA will look more professional because they're not letting players play down a grade and everything will be less complicated for GA to implement.

If Aug and younger players arent good enough for the A team with their grade they should play on the B team with their grade. They'll develop faster playing up with players their grade in school.

Most clubs will put aug and younger players on their grade B team because they don't want to deal with players playing on a grade down team. But also theres likely more roster spots available on the b team and nobody will want short timers playing down a grade on A team rosters.

People who understand RAE would suggest that being the youngest is the worst scenario for almost all kids. Unless you selfishly don't want to have to compete with older kids and are trying to shame them into playing up which is clearly your bad intention, you would get this. Kick and scream all you want, you are selfish and self centered.

This is what B teams are designed for.

Please explain how RAE affects B teams. I'll wait.

Suggesting younger and often smaller kids be assigned to lower level teams is a big reason why the national teams struggle. When coaches don't pick players based on talent but instead pick them on size to get wins when the sizes catch up the younger/smaller players will have moved on and the bigger players won't be very good soccer players. On the boys side there is value in them having a different age cutoff to combat RAE than the other leagues but economics won't allow this to stay very long.

I never suggested anything of the sort but nice try RAE lover.

I said if your kid doesnt make the A team thats why B teams exist.

In response to "the youngest is the worst scenario for almost all kids" you said that is what B teams are for.

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Anonymous wrote:So talking with a friend of mine at the ECNL showcase this weekend. Also I’ll say he told me last summer at surf cup about the age change that was coming and has some very reliable people that he knows. Here is the info I got. It sounds like the Aug hater might get their way and kids will play within their grade within the new 12 month window.
Well sort of…

According to him ECNL is most likely breaking into 3 different groups. Youngers U10-12 and U13-15 and older recruiting ages U16,17,19.
U10-15 will no longer play showcases but will have various cups throughout the year with divisions and tournament champions. Strong RL teams will be invited to these as well.

U10-15 will be based only off the Aug to July 12 month window. However U16/17 will be based off players grades between that 12 month window. So some kids will be pushed up for showcases so they will play against kids within their same grade. League play is still tbd. He didn’t know for sure.
U19 will be for any player who is a senior in high school, age will not matter as long as they are under 19 at the start their club season.

He also has more questions than answers at this point but this is what’s being discussed by ECNL/US Club admin team.

Good luck with all that.

Instead of making things ridiculously complicated. Just implement a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school.

Do this and all the issues go away.

Or make everything stupid complicated and watch while GA implements a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school. GA will look more professional because they're not letting players play down a grade and everything will be less complicated for GA to implement.

If Aug and younger players arent good enough for the A team with their grade they should play on the B team with their grade. They'll develop faster playing up with players their grade in school.

Most clubs will put aug and younger players on their grade B team because they don't want to deal with players playing on a grade down team. But also theres likely more roster spots available on the b team and nobody will want short timers playing down a grade on A team rosters.

People who understand RAE would suggest that being the youngest is the worst scenario for almost all kids. Unless you selfishly don't want to have to compete with older kids and are trying to shame them into playing up which is clearly your bad intention, you would get this. Kick and scream all you want, you are selfish and self centered.

This is what B teams are designed for.

Please explain how RAE affects B teams. I'll wait.

You will need to be less ignorant to be learn. First August hater now B team hater. It's like you only know one girls team. Your DD and know nothing about the youth soccer ecosystem.

Hahahaha so you cant explain how RAE snd B teams interact.

I can!

Because of RAE most of the players on the A team will be closer to the oldest eligibility date. Conversely because of RAE most of the players on the B team will be closer to the youngest eligibility date.

See how it works? As players get older early developer A team players will fall to the side and younger B team players will take their position.

Playing down a grade screws all this up because players arent used to playing against players that are their grade in school. So instead of simply jumping from the B team to the A team they have to make the B team a grade older first then potentially make the A team. You're stacking the deck against your kid playing them down a grade. But im sure those u12 wins are sweet.

Players play against different grades all the time now and forever in HS and MS.

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Anonymous wrote:So talking with a friend of mine at the ECNL showcase this weekend. Also I’ll say he told me last summer at surf cup about the age change that was coming and has some very reliable people that he knows. Here is the info I got. It sounds like the Aug hater might get their way and kids will play within their grade within the new 12 month window.
Well sort of…

According to him ECNL is most likely breaking into 3 different groups. Youngers U10-12 and U13-15 and older recruiting ages U16,17,19.
U10-15 will no longer play showcases but will have various cups throughout the year with divisions and tournament champions. Strong RL teams will be invited to these as well.

U10-15 will be based only off the Aug to July 12 month window. However U16/17 will be based off players grades between that 12 month window. So some kids will be pushed up for showcases so they will play against kids within their same grade. League play is still tbd. He didn’t know for sure.
U19 will be for any player who is a senior in high school, age will not matter as long as they are under 19 at the start their club season.

He also has more questions than answers at this point but this is what’s being discussed by ECNL/US Club admin team.

Good luck with all that.

Instead of making things ridiculously complicated. Just implement a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school.

Do this and all the issues go away.

Or make everything stupid complicated and watch while GA implements a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school. GA will look more professional because they're not letting players play down a grade and everything will be less complicated for GA to implement.

If Aug and younger players arent good enough for the A team with their grade they should play on the B team with their grade. They'll develop faster playing up with players their grade in school.

Most clubs will put aug and younger players on their grade B team because they don't want to deal with players playing on a grade down team. But also theres likely more roster spots available on the b team and nobody will want short timers playing down a grade on A team rosters.

People who understand RAE would suggest that being the youngest is the worst scenario for almost all kids. Unless you selfishly don't want to have to compete with older kids and are trying to shame them into playing up which is clearly your bad intention, you would get this. Kick and scream all you want, you are selfish and self centered.

This is what B teams are designed for.

Please explain how RAE affects B teams. I'll wait.

Suggesting younger and often smaller kids be assigned to lower level teams is a big reason why the national teams struggle. When coaches don't pick players based on talent but instead pick them on size to get wins when the sizes catch up the younger/smaller players will have moved on and the bigger players won't be very good soccer players. On the boys side there is value in them having a different age cutoff to combat RAE than the other leagues but economics won't allow this to stay very long.

I never suggested anything of the sort but nice try RAE lover.

I said if your kid doesnt make the A team thats why B teams exist.

In response to "the youngest is the worst scenario for almost all kids" you said that is what B teams are for.

Its hard for some people to accept realty. With the BY to SY switch they think they found a loophole for playing down.

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Anonymous wrote:So talking with a friend of mine at the ECNL showcase this weekend. Also I’ll say he told me last summer at surf cup about the age change that was coming and has some very reliable people that he knows. Here is the info I got. It sounds like the Aug hater might get their way and kids will play within their grade within the new 12 month window.
Well sort of…

According to him ECNL is most likely breaking into 3 different groups. Youngers U10-12 and U13-15 and older recruiting ages U16,17,19.
U10-15 will no longer play showcases but will have various cups throughout the year with divisions and tournament champions. Strong RL teams will be invited to these as well.

U10-15 will be based only off the Aug to July 12 month window. However U16/17 will be based off players grades between that 12 month window. So some kids will be pushed up for showcases so they will play against kids within their same grade. League play is still tbd. He didn’t know for sure.
U19 will be for any player who is a senior in high school, age will not matter as long as they are under 19 at the start their club season.

He also has more questions than answers at this point but this is what’s being discussed by ECNL/US Club admin team.

Good luck with all that.

Instead of making things ridiculously complicated. Just implement a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school.

Do this and all the issues go away.

Or make everything stupid complicated and watch while GA implements a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school. GA will look more professional because they're not letting players play down a grade and everything will be less complicated for GA to implement.

If Aug and younger players arent good enough for the A team with their grade they should play on the B team with their grade. They'll develop faster playing up with players their grade in school.

Most clubs will put aug and younger players on their grade B team because they don't want to deal with players playing on a grade down team. But also theres likely more roster spots available on the b team and nobody will want short timers playing down a grade on A team rosters.

People who understand RAE would suggest that being the youngest is the worst scenario for almost all kids. Unless you selfishly don't want to have to compete with older kids and are trying to shame them into playing up which is clearly your bad intention, you would get this. Kick and scream all you want, you are selfish and self centered.

This is what B teams are designed for.

Please explain how RAE affects B teams. I'll wait.

Suggesting younger and often smaller kids be assigned to lower level teams is a big reason why the national teams struggle. When coaches don't pick players based on talent but instead pick them on size to get wins when the sizes catch up the younger/smaller players will have moved on and the bigger players won't be very good soccer players. On the boys side there is value in them having a different age cutoff to combat RAE than the other leagues but economics won't allow this to stay very long.

I never suggested anything of the sort but nice try RAE lover.

I said if your kid doesnt make the A team thats why B teams exist.

In response to "the youngest is the worst scenario for almost all kids" you said that is what B teams are for.

Its hard for some people to accept realty. With the BY to SY switch they think they found a loophole for playing down.

It's only a loophole in your mind.

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Anonymous wrote:So talking with a friend of mine at the ECNL showcase this weekend. Also I’ll say he told me last summer at surf cup about the age change that was coming and has some very reliable people that he knows. Here is the info I got. It sounds like the Aug hater might get their way and kids will play within their grade within the new 12 month window.
Well sort of…

According to him ECNL is most likely breaking into 3 different groups. Youngers U10-12 and U13-15 and older recruiting ages U16,17,19.
U10-15 will no longer play showcases but will have various cups throughout the year with divisions and tournament champions. Strong RL teams will be invited to these as well.

U10-15 will be based only off the Aug to July 12 month window. However U16/17 will be based off players grades between that 12 month window. So some kids will be pushed up for showcases so they will play against kids within their same grade. League play is still tbd. He didn’t know for sure.
U19 will be for any player who is a senior in high school, age will not matter as long as they are under 19 at the start their club season.

He also has more questions than answers at this point but this is what’s being discussed by ECNL/US Club admin team.

Good luck with all that.

Instead of making things ridiculously complicated. Just implement a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school.

Do this and all the issues go away.

Or make everything stupid complicated and watch while GA implements a rule that Aug and younger players must play with their grade in school. GA will look more professional because they're not letting players play down a grade and everything will be less complicated for GA to implement.

If Aug and younger players arent good enough for the A team with their grade they should play on the B team with their grade. They'll develop faster playing up with players their grade in school.

Most clubs will put aug and younger players on their grade B team because they don't want to deal with players playing on a grade down team. But also theres likely more roster spots available on the b team and nobody will want short timers playing down a grade on A team rosters.

People who understand RAE would suggest that being the youngest is the worst scenario for almost all kids. Unless you selfishly don't want to have to compete with older kids and are trying to shame them into playing up which is clearly your bad intention, you would get this. Kick and scream all you want, you are selfish and self centered.

This is what B teams are designed for.

Please explain how RAE affects B teams. I'll wait.

Suggesting younger and often smaller kids be assigned to lower level teams is a big reason why the national teams struggle. When coaches don't pick players based on talent but instead pick them on size to get wins when the sizes catch up the younger/smaller players will have moved on and the bigger players won't be very good soccer players. On the boys side there is value in them having a different age cutoff to combat RAE than the other leagues but economics won't allow this to stay very long.

I never suggested anything of the sort but nice try RAE lover.

I said if your kid doesnt make the A team thats why B teams exist.

In response to "the youngest is the worst scenario for almost all kids" you said that is what B teams are for.

Its hard for some people to accept realty. With the BY to SY switch they think they found a loophole for playing down.

It's only a loophole in your mind.

And all the parents excited to play down a grade against younger players.