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Gaza War, Part 3
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Anonymous
But it happened before Oct 7 all the time. So no. |
Anonymous
Oh yah sure they were killing tens of thousands of Palestinians every day before October 7th. Sure, sure. How about go seeing a psychologist about these delusions of yours. |
Anonymous
This is objectively false. History shows there have been numerous extensive periods where there was no Israeli military action against Palestinians. In the instances when there was serious military action, virtually EVERY TIME, for example 1948–49, 1956, 1967, 1969–70, 1973, and 1982 and so on it was in response to an attack and serious act of Palestinian or Arab violence against Jews. If Palestinians want peace from the Israeli military, then they need to stop attacking Israelis. |
Anonymous
So, if you think this, both sides just going back and forth at each other, let them fight it out. |
Anonymous
Israeli bombing of Gaza on October 6th: Didn't happen. Israeli bombing of Gaza on October 5th: Didn't happen. Israeli bombing of Gaza on October 4th: Didn't happen. Israeli bombing of Gaza on October 3rd: Didn't happen. Israeli bombing of Gaza on October 2nd: Didn't happen. Israeli bombing of Gaza on October 1st: Didn't happen. Israeli bombing of Gaza on September 30th: Didn't happen. Israeli bombing of Gaza on September 29th: Didn't happen. Israeli bombing of Gaza on September 28th: Didn't happen. Israeli bombing of Gaza on September 27th: Didn't happen. Israeli bombing of Gaza on September 26th: Didn't happen. Israeli bombing of Gaza on September 25th: Didn't happen. Seeing a pattern here? Stop lying, you POS Hamas shill. |
Anonymous
The times that the IDF bombed Palestinians were.... a.) "all the time" b.) when the moon was full c.) when Palestinians violently attacked Israel d.) [phone a friend for help on the answer] "umm, my answer is a.)?" *BZZZTTTTT!!!!!* Sorry, but that answer is in every way factually and historically wrong. The correct answer is c.), when Palestinians violently attacked Israel. Maybe you should have phoned a friend before answering for yourself. But hey, don't go home sad, here is some nice wholesome matzoball soup as your consolation prize. |
Anonymous
Now do the West Bank |
Anonymous
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If Maryland kills, terrorizes, and keeps creating settlements in DC , and Maryland gets attacked one day from Virginia , it doesn’t matter that DC didn’t attack Virginia.
Virginia clearly identifies with Maryland and wants to get revenge on DC |
Anonymous
Please detail good colonialism. |
Anonymous
| *identifies with DC and wants to get revenge on Maryland |
Anonymous
West bank what? All you might have there is specific, well-documented actions, like when IDF raided the Jenin camp where known senior Hamas extremists were hiding out. Otherwise the picture looks pretty much the same... Israeli bombing of West Bank on October 6th: Didn't happen. And so on. |
Anonymous
It's kind of weird how the only "bad" colonialism is western colonialism. Never mind the brutal campaigns of conquest and subjugation that the Russians engaged in that took them all the way to the far reaches of the Pacific. Never mind the Soviet tactics of violent coups and destabilization, arming violent warlords and extremists all across Africa, Latin America, the Middle East, Southeast Asia. Never mind that they still continue this today with Wagner and other groups. Never mind that Iran has been funding and supporting groups to destabilize and attack in many countries, like the Houthis, Hezbollah, and others. That's ALSO colonialism. Weird that the entire fact of the spread of Islam in a swath spanning from Africa well into Asia including the Balkans and many other areas came about through violent conquest, subjugation, enslavement and colonization but somehow that's ignored. Never mind that many other countries like China are also as big as they are because of a legacy of violent conquest and colonialization. Never mind that ALL of those powers engaged in genocide. Just ignore all of history, the only evil powers are Israel and the US. Look, friend - are you really this ignorant of history? Delusional? Or a deliberate liar? Regardless of which, none are a win for you. |
Anonymous
Okay, it's New Year's Eve and clearly you've been drinking. Settle down and sober up. |
Anonymous
DP. You bring a good point. I think what Palestinians are really upset about is that they never got the chance to be independent at all . It went from Greeks to Romans to Arabs to Turks to Brits to Jews While everyone else became an independent state but Jews also had this problem of always being conquered and never really being a free independent state until recently . How can Palestinians experience the same independence and safety that Israelis have? I’m not sure how to answer that. Hamas has claimed they don’t mind recognizing Israel as their neighbor so long as Palestinians get their own independent state. The problem is Israel won’t let Palestinians run their own independent state with their own military and control Of their own airspace because they believe that they would take the opportunity to attack and they do have a point about that. I don’t know what the solution is except for possible US or NATO controlled airspace and borders to cancel out strikes or attacks from both sides but if those entities get attacked then everyone would be forced into war . The problem is Israel tested Palestinian semi independence with Gaza and Hamas used the opportunity to grow militarily (some Palestinians would say at with Israel’s encouragement and aiding and abetting ) so now Israel isn’t even considering anything but annexation and closing all negotiations regarding any sort of resemblance to Palestinian sovereignty The problem also is Palestinians in the West Bank do not like Mahmoud Abbas and consider him a non entity, irrelevant, and a neutered president from a dying party. The younger generation supports Hamas . The neighboring Arab street also likes Hamas over Mahmoud Abbas. Egypt has hinted to the U.S. and to Israel that they do not want Abbas and the PA in charge of Gaza and they prefer to stick with Hamas -the devil they know. The West Bank supports Hamas more than Gaza does which is no doubt because they aren’t suffering as much casualties so are a further removed from the Hamas caused war. |
Anonymous
Greeks, Romans, whatever - has nothing at all do do with the current situation. How can Palestinians enjoy the same safety and independence that Israelis do? Fact of the matter is that millions of Palestinian Arab Muslims DO enjoy that - there are millions of Palestinians who DO NOT live in Gaza or the West Bank and have in fact INTEGRATED with Israeli society, even to the point of being elected to the Knesset and being appointed to major Cabinet positions in Israeli government, along with becoming multimillionaire business leaders, popular media personalities and so on - IN ISRAEL. That's ALWAYS been a perfectly legitimate choice for Palestinians for 75 years now, yet many continue to reject that over and over and over again who instead REJECT any notion of coexistence whatsoever, because for decades they have instead been continually been indoctrinated in a failed ideology of violent extremism. But here you are, continuing to try and prosecute a failed case for how Israel is somehow trying to exterminate every last Palestinian on the planet. |