Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Since the shooter’s background is becoming clear poor Charlie will rapidly become yesterday’s old news.

Then we can get back to releasing the Epstein pd files.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like the prez had moved on already, lol.

LOL! That's a case study in how fast media cycles move. From one sentence to the next.

It's like Charlie has been tossed aside like a piece of garbage now that his death is no longer useful to serve an agenda.

You are talking as if Charlie just turned into a piece of garbage. He has been a piece of garbage his all useless life.

Yeah. Any violent death like that is tragic. Those types of deaths happen every day. Charlie Kirk was a bad person and while the manner and circumstances of his death are tragic, the world is a better place without him.

Kirk was not a nice person given his public statements. However, he did not deserve to be shot like he was. He deserved to become painfully unpopular and a social pariah but not assassinated in front of his wife and kids.

+1. I feel as horrified in this situation as I do in all the other MANY cases of mental illness + guns resulting in a traumatic incident. Not only to Kirk and his family but everyone there was traumatized. Gun control. Now.

I have supported sensible gun control for my entire adult life but there is not a thing sensible gun control could do to prevent this shooting.

Repeating the lie over and over doesn't make it true. The messages were 4Chan gaming references.

Not sure what lie you think I’m repeating - did you respond to the wrong post? 100% this guy had a legally purchased single bolt action rifle. There’s no possible way in America to ever make that illegal.

Background check, cooling off period. Both things could've diverted him from this.

I don’t know, but I really doubt that he bought a new gun for this when his family’s house was full of them.

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Anonymous wrote:He was a groyper. The antifascist stuff on the casings is obvious trolling.

Everyone above the age of 25 is confused right now. It’s like a whole different coded language.

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Anonymous wrote:Since the shooter’s background is becoming clear poor Charlie will rapidly become yesterday’s old news.

As he should be. That's what he wanted for school shootings.

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Anonymous wrote:He was a groyper. The antifascist stuff on the casings is obvious trolling.

Please. Stop reaching.

The guy had been radicalized and killed someone who had very different ideology from him. Not a Maga. Not a trans. Just a messed up kid that thought Charlie Kirk was some some sort of villain.

Stop villainizing people that have different political views as you.

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Anonymous wrote:Since the shooter’s background is becoming clear poor Charlie will rapidly become yesterday’s old news.

As he should be. That's what he wanted for school shootings.

Then why are you here on page 244 of this thread?

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like the prez had moved on already, lol.

LOL! That's a case study in how fast media cycles move. From one sentence to the next.

It's like Charlie has been tossed aside like a piece of garbage now that his death is no longer useful to serve an agenda.

You are talking as if Charlie just turned into a piece of garbage. He has been a piece of garbage his all useless life.

Yeah. Any violent death like that is tragic. Those types of deaths happen every day. Charlie Kirk was a bad person and while the manner and circumstances of his death are tragic, the world is a better place without him.

Kirk was not a nice person given his public statements. However, he did not deserve to be shot like he was. He deserved to become painfully unpopular and a social pariah but not assassinated in front of his wife and kids.

+1. I feel as horrified in this situation as I do in all the other MANY cases of mental illness + guns resulting in a traumatic incident. Not only to Kirk and his family but everyone there was traumatized. Gun control. Now.

I have supported sensible gun control for my entire adult life but there is not a thing sensible gun control could do to prevent this shooting.

Repeating the lie over and over doesn't make it true. The messages were 4Chan gaming references.

Not sure what lie you think I’m repeating - did you respond to the wrong post? 100% this guy had a legally purchased single bolt action rifle. There’s no possible way in America to ever make that illegal.

Background check, cooling off period. Both things could've diverted him from this.

I don’t know, but I really doubt that he bought a new gun for this when his family’s house was full of them.

In that case, why weren't they properly stored? Also, if he had known the gun was registered and would allow the authorities to quickly track it to him, he might have been less likely to try shooting Kirk, even if he was determined to attack him.

Also, if his weirdo right wing Furry fetish stuff can be etched on the shells, so can identifying info. Would either quickly help the investigation or possibly deter the attack at all.

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Just reading the news after a busy morning.

I'm glad they caught the killer.

I see that he's not a trans activist. He apparently is against fascists. And he's apparently a gamer. OK.

Not a very ultra-left sort of person, in my opinion. Just another mentally ill weirdo obsessed with guns.

I think we can all agree that this person had mental problems, and spent a lot of time on the internet. The only information we have on his motive is what he wrote on the casings, and those were anti-fascist taunts. Sorry, folks, but anti-fascist is not a right wing thing. Maybe there will be more context that will paint a mixed picture but so far, nothing suggests right wing extremism here.

And so why do you suppose that a criminal who wanted to get away and changed clothing wouldn’t also write misleading messages to throw police off his trail? Are you really so naive?

So, you think it is more likely that he was pretending to be anti-fascist than that he meant what he said? This is not a clever criminal. He did manage to change his clothes but that's the only smart thing he did. His disguise was a baseball cap and sunglasses; he seems to have announced on discord that he had hidden a gun wrapped in a towel; and then he drove home and told his dad. He knew he was going to get caught and he wanted people to know why he did it. If he were MAGA, there were lots of things he could have done to get his manifesto out, but he didn't. Yes, I think we can safely take him at his word.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone summarize the political leanings of the shooter?

The only intel is that he inscirbed anti fascist messages on the gun and bullets. He also wore a Halloween costume mocking Trump. He's likely left leaning.

He's a white, Christian, gun-loving Republican raised in a good home. Dad was a minister and LEO. Don't let the bots from China-Russia fool you.

Other than him being white, none of those things have been established.

His Dad worked in the county sheriff's department for 27 years, the assassin donated to Trump's campaign, and was a good shot from two football fields out. So we've definitely established that he's a white, gun-loving Republican raised by a LEO.

To separate out the known facts from your cartoon version: There is no credible source that he donated to Trump's campaign. That is just a rumor floating around the internet based on a "Tyler Robinson" making a donation while this Tyler Robinson was still in high school. We know he used a gun, but we don't know anything else about how he or his family felt about guns. We know he lived in a Republican area, but we don't know anything about his political leanings other than the scribblings. We know his father was a registered Republican who worked in law enforcement, but we don't know if Tyler was aligned with his father. The recounting of the dinner conversation suggested he was rebelling from his upbringing rather than doubling down on it. It's possible that the evidence will eventually support what you are saying but so far it is pointing in the other direction.

It’s really interesting how so many of you are assuming that “getting political” means moving further to the left or “rebelling from his upbringing.” It could just mean paying attention to all this wacky sh!t when he never had before.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone summarize the political leanings of the shooter?

The only intel is that he inscirbed anti fascist messages on the gun and bullets. He also wore a Halloween costume mocking Trump. He's likely left leaning.

He's a white, Christian, gun-loving Republican raised in a good home. Dad was a minister and LEO. Don't let the bots from China-Russia fool you.

Other than him being white, none of those things have been established.

His Dad worked in the county sheriff's department for 27 years, the assassin donated to Trump's campaign, and was a good shot from two football fields out. So we've definitely established that he's a white, gun-loving Republican raised by a LEO.

To separate out the known facts from your cartoon version: There is no credible source that he donated to Trump's campaign. That is just a rumor floating around the internet based on a "Tyler Robinson" making a donation while this Tyler Robinson was still in high school. We know he used a gun, but we don't know anything else about how he or his family felt about guns. We know he lived in a Republican area, but we don't know anything about his political leanings other than the scribblings. We know his father was a registered Republican who worked in law enforcement, but we don't know if Tyler was aligned with his father. The recounting of the dinner conversation suggested he was rebelling from his upbringing rather than doubling down on it. It's possible that the evidence will eventually support what you are saying but so far it is pointing in the other direction.

A dinner conversation is doing a lot of heavy lifting in your “facts”. Which direction did he supposedly disagree? Where’s that fact?

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Anonymous wrote:He was a groyper. The antifascist stuff on the casings is obvious trolling.

Everyone above the age of 25 is confused right now. It’s like a whole different coded language.

People are about to learn about a really terrible corner of the internet.

Nick Fuentes is panicking today.

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile it's confirmed the shooter from Colorado shared white supremacists views online.

https://www.denverpost.com/2025/09/11/evergreen-high-school-shooting-colorado-updates/amp/

Of the 5 most recent school shootings which met the FBI definition of mass shooting:

· 5 out of 5 shooters were associated with online NVE groups like 764, NLM, MKY or TCC (all parts of "Com").

· 4 out of 5 shooters were under the age of 18.

· 4 out of 5 shooters obtained their guns illegally.

· 2 out of 5 shooters were explicitly associated with the LGBTQ+ movement.

· 1 out of 5 shooters were transgender.

These facts paint a very clear and very concerning picture - American youth are being radicalized into committing acts of terror against their peers within harmful online communities.

Politicized gun bans would not have prevented 4 out of 5 of these shootings, which were committed by minors with stolen guns.

https://x.com/bx_on_x/status/1964099850150228364

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone summarize the political leanings of the shooter?

The only intel is that he inscirbed anti fascist messages on the gun and bullets. He also wore a Halloween costume mocking Trump. He's likely left leaning.

He's a white, Christian, gun-loving Republican raised in a good home. Dad was a minister and LEO. Don't let the bots from China-Russia fool you.

Other than him being white, none of those things have been established.

His Dad worked in the county sheriff's department for 27 years, the assassin donated to Trump's campaign, and was a good shot from two football fields out. So we've definitely established that he's a white, gun-loving Republican raised by a LEO.

To separate out the known facts from your cartoon version: There is no credible source that he donated to Trump's campaign. That is just a rumor floating around the internet based on a "Tyler Robinson" making a donation while this Tyler Robinson was still in high school. We know he used a gun, but we don't know anything else about how he or his family felt about guns. We know he lived in a Republican area, but we don't know anything about his political leanings other than the scribblings. We know his father was a registered Republican who worked in law enforcement, but we don't know if Tyler was aligned with his father. The recounting of the dinner conversation suggested he was rebelling from his upbringing rather than doubling down on it. It's possible that the evidence will eventually support what you are saying but so far it is pointing in the other direction.

You're right about the donation:

https://x.com/rpyers/status/1966500367941980306

But the NYPost has already dug up tons of recent photos of him at gun shows, which was apparently a favorite family pasttime. He definitely wasn't an anti-gun person. The video game stuff suggest apolitical edge lord to me, but the nihilism quickly morphs into extreme right wing.

One of the many said pictures

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a helpful explainer for the slow ones on here:

One positive is that it is exposing the deep internet world that our children are exposed to.

Ok, I am admitting I have no idea what that cartoon is about.

Neither do I.

Me either. Had to ask my teenager. It’s a reference to incels. It has zero political meaning.

Incels are associated with a particular political persuasion and it’s not anywhere near the left.

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Anonymous wrote:He was a groyper. The antifascist stuff on the casings is obvious trolling.

Everyone above the age of 25 is confused right now. It’s like a whole different coded language.

He followed Loomer and hated Charlie because Charlie want radical enough.