Costco shooter was a cop... and all 3 victims were unarmed

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Anonymous wrote:If he hit his head he could have had impaired judgment.
If he truly was knocked out, he wasn’t of sound mind.

Perhaps. and I would imagine that if the video shows he was truly out cold, the defense would go that direction. But to me, it's just another reason why people shouldn't carry around guns as commonly as they do their wallets. So many things that could go wrong in an instant. Three people gunned down in a Costco! And the article below shows that more could have easily been killed as the officer opened fire.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/18/us/costco-shooting.html
David Winslow, a lawyer for the officer, told The Los Angeles Times that his client had been shopping with his wife and 18-month-old son when he was knocked to the ground by a large man, later identified as Mr. French, while they were standing in line waiting to taste food samples.

Mr. Winslow, who could not immediately be reached for comment on Tuesday, told The Los Angeles Times that the officer was briefly knocked unconscious.

Dianne Bawit, a 21-year-old student at California State University San Marcos, said she had been shopping for bottled water when she saw a man, who she later learned was the police officer, falling to the ground. She said he had appeared to be in distress.

“He fell pretty hard because I heard a pretty big thump on the ground,” Ms. Bawit said. “He looked like he had a heart attack.”

Ms. Bawit said she initially went to help the officer, but retreated as the altercation escalated.

“He stood up by himself. He pulled out his handgun and starts triggering five to seven shots,” Ms. Bawit said, adding that she was within 10 feet of the men and then took cover. “I was hiding in between the meat aisle, behind the freezer section. I thought I was going to be dead, too.”

Wow - he fired several times?!

People should be able to go to Costco without getting shot by off-duty cops. WTF?!

Don’t attack a cop, and you won’t have a problem.

Weird how three people got shot, then. Seemed like 2 of them shouldn't have had a problem in your imaginary world.

+1 But the heartless PP would probably say that it's the fault of the two elderly parents for having a disabled kid in the first place.

There were no "elderly parents." 52 is not "elderly."

Also, this isn't the guy's first criminal act. Someone on facebook commented on how the guy stole her car shortly before Christmas, with her kid's Christmas gifts inside. The car was recovered, but not the gifts. The parents promised to reimburse her if she didn't pursue charges. The parents were enablers. They are just as culpable.

Well, if someone on Facebook said it, it must be true.

+1 Seriously. Whomever is posting these posts maligning the dead disabled victim and justifying the shooting of his parent by saying that they're not "truly" elderly needs some counseling to grow a heart and a brain.

My heart and brain are with the hero law enforcement officer and not the 32 year old who attacks babies, nor his enabling parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If he hit his head he could have had impaired judgment.
If he truly was knocked out, he wasn’t of sound mind.

Perhaps. and I would imagine that if the video shows he was truly out cold, the defense would go that direction. But to me, it's just another reason why people shouldn't carry around guns as commonly as they do their wallets. So many things that could go wrong in an instant. Three people gunned down in a Costco! And the article below shows that more could have easily been killed as the officer opened fire.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/18/us/costco-shooting.html
David Winslow, a lawyer for the officer, told The Los Angeles Times that his client had been shopping with his wife and 18-month-old son when he was knocked to the ground by a large man, later identified as Mr. French, while they were standing in line waiting to taste food samples.

Mr. Winslow, who could not immediately be reached for comment on Tuesday, told The Los Angeles Times that the officer was briefly knocked unconscious.

Dianne Bawit, a 21-year-old student at California State University San Marcos, said she had been shopping for bottled water when she saw a man, who she later learned was the police officer, falling to the ground. She said he had appeared to be in distress.

“He fell pretty hard because I heard a pretty big thump on the ground,” Ms. Bawit said. “He looked like he had a heart attack.”

Ms. Bawit said she initially went to help the officer, but retreated as the altercation escalated.

“He stood up by himself. He pulled out his handgun and starts triggering five to seven shots,” Ms. Bawit said, adding that she was within 10 feet of the men and then took cover. “I was hiding in between the meat aisle, behind the freezer section. I thought I was going to be dead, too.”

Wow - he fired several times?!

People should be able to go to Costco without getting shot by off-duty cops. WTF?!

Don’t attack a cop, and you won’t have a problem.

Weird how three people got shot, then. Seemed like 2 of them shouldn't have had a problem in your imaginary world.

+1 But the heartless PP would probably say that it's the fault of the two elderly parents for having a disabled kid in the first place.

There were no "elderly parents." 52 is not "elderly."

Also, this isn't the guy's first criminal act. Someone on facebook commented on how the guy stole her car shortly before Christmas, with her kid's Christmas gifts inside. The car was recovered, but not the gifts. The parents promised to reimburse her if she didn't pursue charges. The parents were enablers. They are just as culpable.

Well, if someone on Facebook said it, it must be true.

+1 Seriously. Whomever is posting these posts maligning the dead disabled victim and justifying the shooting of his parent by saying that they're not "truly" elderly needs some counseling to grow a heart and a brain.

My heart and brain are with the hero law enforcement officer and not the 32 year old who attacks babies, nor his enabling parents.

Where's your evidence that the dead victim attacked a baby? Where's your evidence that you should take what any person says on Facebook as gospel (today, I read on there that there was an earthquake in DC, which wasn't remotely true)? Where is your heart/brain and why do you lack any ability to empathize with a truly tragic situation all around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:, this isn't the guy's first criminal act. Someone on facebook commented on how the guy stole her car shortly before Christmas, with her kid's Christmas gifts inside. The car was recovered, but not the gifts. The parents promised to reimburse her if she didn't pursue charges. The parents were enablers. They are just as culpable.

Well, if someone on Facebook said it, it must be true.

I looked at her facebook page from back in December, and she posted about it back then. Obviously she had no idea back in December that this would go down.

Link?

Screenshot

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If he hit his head he could have had impaired judgment.
If he truly was knocked out, he wasn’t of sound mind.

Perhaps. and I would imagine that if the video shows he was truly out cold, the defense would go that direction. But to me, it's just another reason why people shouldn't carry around guns as commonly as they do their wallets. So many things that could go wrong in an instant. Three people gunned down in a Costco! And the article below shows that more could have easily been killed as the officer opened fire.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/18/us/costco-shooting.html
David Winslow, a lawyer for the officer, told The Los Angeles Times that his client had been shopping with his wife and 18-month-old son when he was knocked to the ground by a large man, later identified as Mr. French, while they were standing in line waiting to taste food samples.

Mr. Winslow, who could not immediately be reached for comment on Tuesday, told The Los Angeles Times that the officer was briefly knocked unconscious.

Dianne Bawit, a 21-year-old student at California State University San Marcos, said she had been shopping for bottled water when she saw a man, who she later learned was the police officer, falling to the ground. She said he had appeared to be in distress.

“He fell pretty hard because I heard a pretty big thump on the ground,” Ms. Bawit said. “He looked like he had a heart attack.”

Ms. Bawit said she initially went to help the officer, but retreated as the altercation escalated.

“He stood up by himself. He pulled out his handgun and starts triggering five to seven shots,” Ms. Bawit said, adding that she was within 10 feet of the men and then took cover. “I was hiding in between the meat aisle, behind the freezer section. I thought I was going to be dead, too.”

Wow - he fired several times?!

People should be able to go to Costco without getting shot by off-duty cops. WTF?!

Don’t attack a cop, and you won’t have a problem.

Weird how three people got shot, then. Seemed like 2 of them shouldn't have had a problem in your imaginary world.

+1 But the heartless PP would probably say that it's the fault of the two elderly parents for having a disabled kid in the first place.

There were no "elderly parents." 52 is not "elderly."

Also, this isn't the guy's first criminal act. Someone on facebook commented on how the guy stole her car shortly before Christmas, with her kid's Christmas gifts inside. The car was recovered, but not the gifts. The parents promised to reimburse her if she didn't pursue charges. The parents were enablers. They are just as culpable.

Well, if someone on Facebook said it, it must be true.

I looked at her facebook page from back in December, and she posted about it back then. Obviously she had no idea back in December that this would go down.

If you’re going to treat this as a legitimate source of information, go ahead and post a link so everyone can see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:, this isn't the guy's first criminal act. Someone on facebook commented on how the guy stole her car shortly before Christmas, with her kid's Christmas gifts inside. The car was recovered, but not the gifts. The parents promised to reimburse her if she didn't pursue charges. The parents were enablers. They are just as culpable.

Well, if someone on Facebook said it, it must be true.

I looked at her facebook page from back in December, and she posted about it back then. Obviously she had no idea back in December that this would go down.

Link?

Screenshot

I don't know how to do that on here. Her name is Allie Villegas. Her profile photo is her upper torso wearing a leather jacket with a horizontal zipper on each side. Go down to her posts just before Christmas and she posts about her car being stolen, and in comments, she mentions the Christmas gifts being gone (in Spanish.)

If you look at the comments on French's photos, you can see a screen shot of where she talked about it, but it was a response to someone else's comment, and that person deleted their post so her comment also got deleted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If he hit his head he could have had impaired judgment.
If he truly was knocked out, he wasn’t of sound mind.

Perhaps. and I would imagine that if the video shows he was truly out cold, the defense would go that direction. But to me, it's just another reason why people shouldn't carry around guns as commonly as they do their wallets. So many things that could go wrong in an instant. Three people gunned down in a Costco! And the article below shows that more could have easily been killed as the officer opened fire.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/18/us/costco-shooting.html
David Winslow, a lawyer for the officer, told The Los Angeles Times that his client had been shopping with his wife and 18-month-old son when he was knocked to the ground by a large man, later identified as Mr. French, while they were standing in line waiting to taste food samples.

Mr. Winslow, who could not immediately be reached for comment on Tuesday, told The Los Angeles Times that the officer was briefly knocked unconscious.

Dianne Bawit, a 21-year-old student at California State University San Marcos, said she had been shopping for bottled water when she saw a man, who she later learned was the police officer, falling to the ground. She said he had appeared to be in distress.

“He fell pretty hard because I heard a pretty big thump on the ground,” Ms. Bawit said. “He looked like he had a heart attack.”

Ms. Bawit said she initially went to help the officer, but retreated as the altercation escalated.

“He stood up by himself. He pulled out his handgun and starts triggering five to seven shots,” Ms. Bawit said, adding that she was within 10 feet of the men and then took cover. “I was hiding in between the meat aisle, behind the freezer section. I thought I was going to be dead, too.”

Wow - he fired several times?!

People should be able to go to Costco without getting shot by off-duty cops. WTF?!

Don’t attack a cop, and you won’t have a problem.

Weird how three people got shot, then. Seemed like 2 of them shouldn't have had a problem in your imaginary world.

+1 But the heartless PP would probably say that it's the fault of the two elderly parents for having a disabled kid in the first place.

There were no "elderly parents." 52 is not "elderly."

Also, this isn't the guy's first criminal act. Someone on facebook commented on how the guy stole her car shortly before Christmas, with her kid's Christmas gifts inside. The car was recovered, but not the gifts. The parents promised to reimburse her if she didn't pursue charges. The parents were enablers. They are just as culpable.

Well, if someone on Facebook said it, it must be true.

+1 Seriously. Whomever is posting these posts maligning the dead disabled victim and justifying the shooting of his parent by saying that they're not "truly" elderly needs some counseling to grow a heart and a brain.

My heart and brain are with the hero law enforcement officer and not the 32 year old who attacks babies, nor his enabling parents.

There’s something really, really wrong with you, PP. And I actually mean that kindly. Regardless of and beyond this thread, I think you would benefit from some mental health support. Maybe take a printout of some of your posts on this thread to show the doctor, if you genuinely don’t understand what all of us are saying here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If he hit his head he could have had impaired judgment.
If he truly was knocked out, he wasn’t of sound mind.

Perhaps. and I would imagine that if the video shows he was truly out cold, the defense would go that direction. But to me, it's just another reason why people shouldn't carry around guns as commonly as they do their wallets. So many things that could go wrong in an instant. Three people gunned down in a Costco! And the article below shows that more could have easily been killed as the officer opened fire.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/18/us/costco-shooting.html
David Winslow, a lawyer for the officer, told The Los Angeles Times that his client had been shopping with his wife and 18-month-old son when he was knocked to the ground by a large man, later identified as Mr. French, while they were standing in line waiting to taste food samples.

Mr. Winslow, who could not immediately be reached for comment on Tuesday, told The Los Angeles Times that the officer was briefly knocked unconscious.

Dianne Bawit, a 21-year-old student at California State University San Marcos, said she had been shopping for bottled water when she saw a man, who she later learned was the police officer, falling to the ground. She said he had appeared to be in distress.

“He fell pretty hard because I heard a pretty big thump on the ground,” Ms. Bawit said. “He looked like he had a heart attack.”

Ms. Bawit said she initially went to help the officer, but retreated as the altercation escalated.

“He stood up by himself. He pulled out his handgun and starts triggering five to seven shots,” Ms. Bawit said, adding that she was within 10 feet of the men and then took cover. “I was hiding in between the meat aisle, behind the freezer section. I thought I was going to be dead, too.”

Wow - he fired several times?!

People should be able to go to Costco without getting shot by off-duty cops. WTF?!

Don’t attack a cop, and you won’t have a problem.

Weird how three people got shot, then. Seemed like 2 of them shouldn't have had a problem in your imaginary world.

+1 But the heartless PP would probably say that it's the fault of the two elderly parents for having a disabled kid in the first place.

There were no "elderly parents." 52 is not "elderly."

Also, this isn't the guy's first criminal act. Someone on facebook commented on how the guy stole her car shortly before Christmas, with her kid's Christmas gifts inside. The car was recovered, but not the gifts. The parents promised to reimburse her if she didn't pursue charges. The parents were enablers. They are just as culpable.

Well, if someone on Facebook said it, it must be true.

+1 Seriously. Whomever is posting these posts maligning the dead disabled victim and justifying the shooting of his parent by saying that they're not "truly" elderly needs some counseling to grow a heart and a brain.

My heart and brain are with the hero law enforcement officer and not the 32 year old who attacks babies, nor his enabling parents.

Where's your evidence that the dead victim attacked a baby? Where's your evidence that you should take what any person says on Facebook as gospel (today, I read on there that there was an earthquake in DC, which wasn't remotely true)? Where is your heart/brain and why do you lack any ability to empathize with a truly tragic situation all around.

+1 You can be supportive of police officers without making up stuff about a dead person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If he hit his head he could have had impaired judgment.
If he truly was knocked out, he wasn’t of sound mind.

Perhaps. and I would imagine that if the video shows he was truly out cold, the defense would go that direction. But to me, it's just another reason why people shouldn't carry around guns as commonly as they do their wallets. So many things that could go wrong in an instant. Three people gunned down in a Costco! And the article below shows that more could have easily been killed as the officer opened fire.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/18/us/costco-shooting.html
David Winslow, a lawyer for the officer, told The Los Angeles Times that his client had been shopping with his wife and 18-month-old son when he was knocked to the ground by a large man, later identified as Mr. French, while they were standing in line waiting to taste food samples.

Mr. Winslow, who could not immediately be reached for comment on Tuesday, told The Los Angeles Times that the officer was briefly knocked unconscious.

Dianne Bawit, a 21-year-old student at California State University San Marcos, said she had been shopping for bottled water when she saw a man, who she later learned was the police officer, falling to the ground. She said he had appeared to be in distress.

“He fell pretty hard because I heard a pretty big thump on the ground,” Ms. Bawit said. “He looked like he had a heart attack.”

Ms. Bawit said she initially went to help the officer, but retreated as the altercation escalated.

“He stood up by himself. He pulled out his handgun and starts triggering five to seven shots,” Ms. Bawit said, adding that she was within 10 feet of the men and then took cover. “I was hiding in between the meat aisle, behind the freezer section. I thought I was going to be dead, too.”

Wow - he fired several times?!

People should be able to go to Costco without getting shot by off-duty cops. WTF?!

Don’t attack a cop, and you won’t have a problem.

Who could tell he was a cop? He was off-duty and not in a uniform.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If he hit his head he could have had impaired judgment.
If he truly was knocked out, he wasn’t of sound mind.

Perhaps. and I would imagine that if the video shows he was truly out cold, the defense would go that direction. But to me, it's just another reason why people shouldn't carry around guns as commonly as they do their wallets. So many things that could go wrong in an instant. Three people gunned down in a Costco! And the article below shows that more could have easily been killed as the officer opened fire.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/18/us/costco-shooting.html
David Winslow, a lawyer for the officer, told The Los Angeles Times that his client had been shopping with his wife and 18-month-old son when he was knocked to the ground by a large man, later identified as Mr. French, while they were standing in line waiting to taste food samples.

Mr. Winslow, who could not immediately be reached for comment on Tuesday, told The Los Angeles Times that the officer was briefly knocked unconscious.

Dianne Bawit, a 21-year-old student at California State University San Marcos, said she had been shopping for bottled water when she saw a man, who she later learned was the police officer, falling to the ground. She said he had appeared to be in distress.

“He fell pretty hard because I heard a pretty big thump on the ground,” Ms. Bawit said. “He looked like he had a heart attack.”

Ms. Bawit said she initially went to help the officer, but retreated as the altercation escalated.

“He stood up by himself. He pulled out his handgun and starts triggering five to seven shots,” Ms. Bawit said, adding that she was within 10 feet of the men and then took cover. “I was hiding in between the meat aisle, behind the freezer section. I thought I was going to be dead, too.”

Wow - he fired several times?!

People should be able to go to Costco without getting shot by off-duty cops. WTF?!

Don’t attack a cop, and you won’t have a problem.

Who could tell he was a cop? He was off-duty and not in a uniform.

Oh ok then . So it was fine to just assault whoever. Great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If he hit his head he could have had impaired judgment.
If he truly was knocked out, he wasn’t of sound mind.

Perhaps. and I would imagine that if the video shows he was truly out cold, the defense would go that direction. But to me, it's just another reason why people shouldn't carry around guns as commonly as they do their wallets. So many things that could go wrong in an instant. Three people gunned down in a Costco! And the article below shows that more could have easily been killed as the officer opened fire.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/18/us/costco-shooting.html
David Winslow, a lawyer for the officer, told The Los Angeles Times that his client had been shopping with his wife and 18-month-old son when he was knocked to the ground by a large man, later identified as Mr. French, while they were standing in line waiting to taste food samples.

Mr. Winslow, who could not immediately be reached for comment on Tuesday, told The Los Angeles Times that the officer was briefly knocked unconscious.

Dianne Bawit, a 21-year-old student at California State University San Marcos, said she had been shopping for bottled water when she saw a man, who she later learned was the police officer, falling to the ground. She said he had appeared to be in distress.

“He fell pretty hard because I heard a pretty big thump on the ground,” Ms. Bawit said. “He looked like he had a heart attack.”

Ms. Bawit said she initially went to help the officer, but retreated as the altercation escalated.

“He stood up by himself. He pulled out his handgun and starts triggering five to seven shots,” Ms. Bawit said, adding that she was within 10 feet of the men and then took cover. “I was hiding in between the meat aisle, behind the freezer section. I thought I was going to be dead, too.”

Wow - he fired several times?!

People should be able to go to Costco without getting shot by off-duty cops. WTF?!

Don’t attack a cop, and you won’t have a problem.

Who could tell he was a cop? He was off-duty and not in a uniform.

Oh ok then . So it was fine to just assault whoever. Great.

Where did someone say that? You have reading comprehension problems. Your point was that if you don't attack a cop, you wouldn't have a problem. Someone (very logically) pointed out that the cop wasn't even in uniform, and didn't have cop tattoed on his forehead. Anyway, since the dead victim was disabled and non-verbal, he may not have picked up on the distinction even if the cop was in uniform.

[Anonymous]

can we just take a pause to note that this is the 2nd fatal shooting at a Costco in california in 72 hours. no one is safe anywhere in this country.

[Anonymous]

Sounds like the guy was a shitty cop and a loose cannon, if he didn't know how to de-escalate a situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like the guy was a shitty cop and a loose cannon, if he didn't know how to de-escalate a situation.

Maybe. Or he suffered a head injury from a guy with disabilities who couldn't control himself, and lost it and shot 3 people. Either way, if people didn't have such easy access to guns, we wouldn't have an entire newspaper page dedicated to killings at California Costcos.

[Anonymous]

No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1830308976

In the hours following a violent rampage in California in which a lone attacker killed 12 individuals, including a police officer, and seriously injured at least 12 others, citizens living in the only country where this kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Thursday that there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop them,” said Kansas resident Carrie Grant, echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20 times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything that was going to keep this individual from snapping and killing a lot of people if that’s what they really wanted.” At press time, residents of the only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass shootings have occurred every month for the past eight years were referring to themselves and their situation as “helpless.”

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know how old the parents are? I've seen everything from late 50's to early 50's on this thread.