US women's gymnastics...

[Anonymous]

PP, I doubt any of the power players in USA Gymnastics or USOC are hanging out on DCUM. So if you’ve been really expecting an answer I’m afraid you’ll be disappointed. Perhaps submit the question to their email.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, pp.

But if a man stuck his fingers inside me, I would have told my parents as soon as I had a chance. Even if they couldn't make calls from camp (which should have been a red flag to parents---and certainly would have precluded me from sending my child there), they could have (and should have) told their parents at some point. If they did tell their parents and they ignored them, then their parents were complicit on some level.

I don't recall which girl it was (I think she was blonde), but she said she didn't realize she was victimized until she heard one of the others come forward. What does that mean? She didn't realize being fingered by a doctor was assault until
someone else came forward as an adult? That's odd.

You have no idea what you would have done as a child. You're looking at the situation through an adult lens. I watched 20/20 last night and one of the women said that pain and discomfort was part of gymnastics. There were a lot of things about it she didn't enjoy and she trusted her doctor and coaches. These girls were taught to suck it up, work through it and don't complain or there would be another girl happy to take your place.

My sister trained with Dominique Dawes and was actually better than she was, but my parents pulled her out of gymnastics once they realized the craziness of the system. They pushed the kids too hard and had no concern for their wellbeing. They forced them to push through pain and injuries. Any normal parent who loved their child wouldn't let them pursue it at that level.

The fact that these girls suffered injuries and were forced to push through is a red flag. What's the point? Olympics? Who cares. Where are any of those gymnasts now? There's no real fortune that comes with it, and the fame is fleeting. But the lifelong chronic pain stays with you. And now there's the PTSD from sexual assault.

You're exactly right about the chronic pain.
I saw some news reports about Olympic athletes from different countries who were prematurely forced back into competing before their injuries healed. And then died. There's lots of corruption and abuse of different kinds. PP is right that there's zero regard for the athletes' safety or wellbeing.

Too bad all of this systematic abuse and corruption is blowing up right before the start of the Olympics. This will hurt. And it should. This needs to come to a swift halt.

When it come to the safety and protection of children, coaches and administrators at every level must be held accountable. No more forcing athletes and parents to sign wavers.

Where are the mandatory child protection advocates?

Anyone?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP, I doubt any of the power players in USA Gymnastics or USOC are hanging out on DCUM. So if you’ve been really expecting an answer I’m afraid you’ll be disappointed. Perhaps submit the question to their email.

Actually, Kelli Hill probably on.
BTW, rumor has it that she said that some of the girls were coming out only for attention.

[Anonymous]

Every survivor MUST be COMPENSATED for pain and suffering. Big time. This might tank MSU.

[Anonymous]

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Every survivor MUST be COMPENSATED for pain and suffering. Big time. This might tank MSU.

Just like it tanked Penn State, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, I doubt any of the power players in USA Gymnastics or USOC are hanging out on DCUM. So if you’ve been really expecting an answer I’m afraid you’ll be disappointed. Perhaps submit the question to their email.

Actually, Kelli Hill probably on.
BTW, rumor has it that she said that some of the girls were coming out only for attention.

This is a classic blame the victim.
Even assuming there is validity to this-- how on EARTH can a third party know whether a doctor molested someone or not. Such nasty gossip.

[Anonymous]

oh....now, there is some unattributed casting of shade...

[Anonymous]

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Every survivor MUST be COMPENSATED for pain and suffering. Big time. This might tank MSU.

I don’t know about you, but money wouldn’t make this right for me

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Every survivor MUST be COMPENSATED for pain and suffering. Big time. This might tank MSU.

I don’t know about you, but money wouldn’t make this right for me

No amount of money can ever erase the trauma these children were subjected to, but perhaps it can help pay for some of the consequences of it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Every survivor MUST be COMPENSATED for pain and suffering. Big time. This might tank MSU.

I don’t know about you, but money wouldn’t make this right for me

No amount of money can ever erase the trauma these children were subjected to, but perhaps it can help pay for some of the consequences of it.

?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP, I doubt any of the power players in USA Gymnastics or USOC are hanging out on DCUM. So if you’ve been really expecting an answer I’m afraid you’ll be disappointed. Perhaps submit the question to their email.

Actually, Kelli Hill probably on.
BTW, rumor has it that she said that some of the girls were coming out only for attention.

This is a classic blame the victim.
Even assuming there is validity to this-- how on EARTH can a third party know whether a doctor molested someone or not. Such nasty gossip.

That's the point, KH doesn't know. And if she did, she could end up in jail too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Every survivor MUST be COMPENSATED for pain and suffering. Big time. This might tank MSU.

I don’t know about you, but money wouldn’t make this right for me

No amount of money can ever erase the trauma these children were subjected to, but perhaps it can help pay for some of the consequences of it.

?

What's your question, 15:52?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP, I doubt any of the power players in USA Gymnastics or USOC are hanging out on DCUM. So if you’ve been really expecting an answer I’m afraid you’ll be disappointed. Perhaps submit the question to their email.

Actually, Kelli Hill probably on.
BTW, rumor has it that she said that some of the girls were coming out only for attention.

Wow what’s nasty woman! Kelli if you read this stop blaming the victims!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Told you he wasn’t a doctor. DOs aren’t doctors.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-heffernan-larry-nassar-20180126-story.html

He was a serial rapist protected by:
1. US Olympic Committee
2. Michigan State University

[Anonymous]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/01/us/msu-amanda-thomashow-complaint-larry-nassar/index.html

Amanda filed a complaint in 2014 against Nassar. MSU did nothing.