US women's gymnastics...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a huge gymnastics fan and have been following the sport for years. The online gymnastics community (aka the Gymternet) is so horrified and disgusted with how USAG handled this. They have not even moved the monthly camps for the women’s national team from the Ranch (the site in Texas where a lot of abuse occurred). I’m so glad this story is finally getting some attention in the media because it is horrific and for some reason people in the general public don’t seem to know much about it (as compared to the Penn State crimes for example)



This week victim impact statements are going to be read in court so I’m sending all of my best wishes to the survivors and their families.

Do you think they will ever move the camps from The Ranch?

My friend's daughter gets to go train at the Ranch from time-to-time and it's all about the prestige of being there.

[Anonymous]

Also, an element that I don't see being discussed here is that these girls are SO used to intrusive touching that it may not have registered that what was happening was abuse until much later. Most have been training since they were 3 or 4 years old.

My daughter was a competitive gymnast and some coaches are more handsy than others; the girls just get used to it. Some male coaches will NEVER touch a female athlete below the shoulders, above or below the waist, or above mid-thigh; they'll bring in a female assistant to demonstrate or spot. Others will grab and touch and the girls are so used to it, that's it's not uncomfortable for them.

I've seen male coaches put their hands on girl's butts to give them a boost, I've seen them grab the girls by the upper torso or even between the legs to save their faces during a fall.

[Anonymous]

I know a very high level coach from the gymnastics world who said future girls will suffer from all of this because big sponsors have already pulled out of funding gymnastics in the Olympics. Sad the innocent always suffer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a huge gymnastics fan and have been following the sport for years. The online gymnastics community (aka the Gymternet) is so horrified and disgusted with how USAG handled this. They have not even moved the monthly camps for the women’s national team from the Ranch (the site in Texas where a lot of abuse occurred). I’m so glad this story is finally getting some attention in the media because it is horrific and for some reason people in the general public don’t seem to know much about it (as compared to the Penn State crimes for example)



This week victim impact statements are going to be read in court so I’m sending all of my best wishes to the survivors and their families.

Do you think they will ever move the camps from The Ranch?

My friend's daughter gets to go train at the Ranch from time-to-time and it's all about the prestige of being there.

My friend's daughter has been invited to the Ranch but she will not let her go, even before all this recent publicity, because it's obvious that there is just too much potential for abuse in the way that they cut girls off from their families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also, an element that I don't see being discussed here is that these girls are SO used to intrusive touching that it may not have registered that what was happening was abuse until much later. Most have been training since they were 3 or 4 years old.

My daughter was a competitive gymnast and some coaches are more handsy than others; the girls just get used to it. Some male coaches will NEVER touch a female athlete below the shoulders, above or below the waist, or above mid-thigh; they'll bring in a female assistant to demonstrate or spot. Others will grab and touch and the girls are so used to it, that's it's not uncomfortable for them.

I've seen male coaches put their hands on girl's butts to give them a boost, I've seen them grab the girls by the upper torso or even between the legs to save their faces during a fall.

Although girls and young woman made multiple complaints dating to the mid-90s with very specific allegations made to coaches, trainers, parents, and two police reports. And the poor kid who reported to a counselor that Nassar was molesting her, only to have the counselor and her parents make her meet with Nassar to recant and apologize. Girls knew and were talking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
How can you trust any man these days?

And all the women who knew and said nothing?

Talk to your kids about this. And please STOP telling them that "sometimes you do what it takes to get what you want."

Every time something new comes out, I ask my husband "what the hell is wrong with you men?"

Perhaps observe how many little boys are getting treated like kings. I hate to admit that it's mostly the mothers who are doing this. Fathers appear to be much less tolerant of their boys' entitled bad behavior.

Why?

Shit up. There is the Princess complex on the alternative side as well.

[Anonymous]

I have to place a lot of the blame for this continuing on the parents. They invest their life savings into their little girls and then did nothing to stop the abuse. I find it hard to believe that some of the parents didn't know what was going on.

I'm not blaming the victim and I understand that many of these girls don't have their parents with them when they train. However, parents have to be more involved and not just send their little girls away to fulfill their own dreams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have to place a lot of the blame for this continuing on the parents. They invest their life savings into their little girls and then did nothing to stop the abuse. I find it hard to believe that some of the parents didn't know what was going on.

I'm not blaming the victim and I understand that many of these girls don't have their parents with them when they train. However, parents have to be more involved and not just send their little girls away to fulfill their own dreams.

I also do not blame the victims. I also agree that parents really need to be vigilant.

The same thing happened with the English soccer scandal to boys.

My kids are never alone with coaches. Period. There is no 1-v-1 or rides home alone, etc. They are always in public.

My husband have told our kids NOBODY should ever touch the parts that are covered by your underwear. Ever. No matter what they say.

No adult should tell you to keep a 'secret' from your parents. If any of this happens---tell us immediately.

We have a family 'safe word'. The only people picking them up--are the family members and neighbors we have authorized, etc.

Locker rooms for young kids---again---not alone.

There are people that think they are destroying a kids innocence by giving them basic life skills. That's BS.

As they grow, you need to keep it up. Never except a drink in an open container---etc. at a bar, party from someone.

My boys have been invited to several International sports events. A few were no parents--stayed in places without chaperones, etc. Those were obviously a 'no'. We are hyper vigilant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
How can you trust any man these days?

And all the women who knew and said nothing?

Talk to your kids about this. And please STOP telling them that "sometimes you do what it takes to get what you want."

Every time something new comes out, I ask my husband "what the hell is wrong with you men?"

Perhaps observe how many little boys are getting treated like kings. I hate to admit that it's mostly the mothers who are doing this. Fathers appear to be much less tolerant of their boys' entitled bad behavior.

Why?

Shit up. There is the Princess complex on the alternative side as well.

Shit up? Are you a parent grooming your son to be an entitled sex abuser of women?

Stand up for yourself and teach your children to respect their parents and each other.

[Anonymous]

This story adds a lot of detail. Nasser was the "good guy" counterpart to an abusive coach. People complained and were dismissed.

http://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/22046031

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This story adds a lot of detail. Nasser was the "good guy" counterpart to an abusive coach. People complained and were dismissed.

http://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/22046031

Every. Single. Parent. Needs to read this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, an element that I don't see being discussed here is that these girls are SO used to intrusive touching that it may not have registered that what was happening was abuse until much later. Most have been training since they were 3 or 4 years old.

My daughter was a competitive gymnast and some coaches are more handsy than others; the girls just get used to it. Some male coaches will NEVER touch a female athlete below the shoulders, above or below the waist, or above mid-thigh; they'll bring in a female assistant to demonstrate or spot. Others will grab and touch and the girls are so used to it, that's it's not uncomfortable for them.

I've seen male coaches put their hands on girl's butts to give them a boost, I've seen them grab the girls by the upper torso or even between the legs to save their faces during a fall.

Although girls and young woman made multiple complaints dating to the mid-90s with very specific allegations made to coaches, trainers, parents, and two police reports. And the poor kid who reported to a counselor that Nassar was molesting her, only to have the counselor and her parents make her meet with Nassar to recant and apologize. Girls knew and were talking.

Omg!!! What the fuck is wrong with those parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, an element that I don't see being discussed here is that these girls are SO used to intrusive touching that it may not have registered that what was happening was abuse until much later. Most have been training since they were 3 or 4 years old.

My daughter was a competitive gymnast and some coaches are more handsy than others; the girls just get used to it. Some male coaches will NEVER touch a female athlete below the shoulders, above or below the waist, or above mid-thigh; they'll bring in a female assistant to demonstrate or spot. Others will grab and touch and the girls are so used to it, that's it's not uncomfortable for them.

I've seen male coaches put their hands on girl's butts to give them a boost, I've seen them grab the girls by the upper torso or even between the legs to save their faces during a fall.

Although girls and young woman made multiple complaints dating to the mid-90s with very specific allegations made to coaches, trainers, parents, and two police reports. And the poor kid who reported to a counselor that Nassar was molesting her, only to have the counselor and her parents make her meet with Nassar to recant and apologize. Girls knew and were talking.

Omg!!! What the fuck is wrong with those parents.

Same thing that's wrong with lots on parents right here:

...Too busy to really get to know their own children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This story adds a lot of detail. Nasser was the "good guy" counterpart to an abusive coach. People complained and were dismissed.

http://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/22046031

This article is eye opening. So many enabled that monster. Heartbreaking.

[Anonymous]

Jordyn Weiber was part of the Fierce Five. How dis she escape this?