Grand Jury Issues Sealed Indictments in Mueller Case

[Anonymous]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-donor-asked-data-firm-if-it-could-better-organize-hacked-emails-1509133587


Hmmm, and how would Rebecca Mercer happen to know that Hillary Clinton's emails were soon to be leaked by Wikileaks?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can Trump simply fire Mueller at this point if the heat really turns up?

He probably could -- although the special counsel position was designed to not allow that. It would be insane for Trump to do it, although I don't know if he realizes that. It would be much worse than firing Comey, and that was very bad for Trump.

How could Trump fire Mueller? The only person who can fire Mueller is Rod Rosenstein. Can you see him firing Mueller? Trump would have to fire Rosenstein, then find a replacement who would fire Mueller. Doesn't Rosenstein's position require confirmation? So wouldn't any firing of Mueller have to wait until Rosenstein's replacement was confirmed?

Is this correct? Am I missing something?

Sort of. If Rosenstein were fired, there is a line of succession by statute or Reg as to who becomes acting AG, as a continuation of government thing. And an acting AG can fire Mueller. Dana Bronstein was near the top last time I checked. But it has to be someone who is Senate confirmed. And Trump has been terrible about getting his appointments to the Senate. So unless the Senate has pushed a bunch of appointees through recently, he would only have to fire about 3 people before he runs out firees.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why am I not surprised that CNN has close ties with Fusion GPS:

CNN’s reporting on the Trump-Russia dossier has left out at least one crucial fact: the close ties between the network and the opposition research firm at the center of the dossier controversy.

CNN’s reporting on the dossier, led by justice correspondent Evan Perez, has been favorable to the firm, Fusion GPS, and hyped the dossier’s credibility. Left out of Perez’s reporting, which has relied largely on unnamed sources, is his personal closeness to Fusion GPS’ operatives. Fusion has repeatedly been described in Senate testimonies as a smear-for-hire operation that manufactures misleading or false media narratives for its clients.

Glenn Simpson, the Fusion co-founder most often associated with the dossier, is used to working on stories with Perez. As reporters at The Wall Street Journal, Perez and Simpson regularly co-authored stories on national security.

Did you write this yourself?

You are implying that Perez and Simpson's history as WSJ journalists together is a black mark. Seems like an indication that they're reputable to me.

Italics indicate no. Daily Caller article. Read it.

All opposition research firms are paid to dig up dirt and frame it in a negative light. Where do you think all those negative campaign ads come from?

Russia!

I think opposition research started with Nixon. It's a well-paying and well-respected profession in DC. All campaigns do it, assuming they can afford it.

But only the Hillary campaign funneled millions to the Russians to pay for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-donor-asked-data-firm-if-it-could-better-organize-hacked-emails-1509133587


Hmmm, and how would Rebecca Mercer happen to know that Hillary Clinton's emails were soon to be leaked by Wikileaks?

Please cut and paste the relevant quotes. Story is hidden behind paywall, and I, for one, refuse to give Rupert Murdoch a single cent of my money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can Trump simply fire Mueller at this point if the heat really turns up?

He probably could -- although the special counsel position was designed to not allow that. It would be insane for Trump to do it, although I don't know if he realizes that. It would be much worse than firing Comey, and that was very bad for Trump.

How could Trump fire Mueller? The only person who can fire Mueller is Rod Rosenstein. Can you see him firing Mueller? Trump would have to fire Rosenstein, then find a replacement who would fire Mueller. Doesn't Rosenstein's position require confirmation? So wouldn't any firing of Mueller have to wait until Rosenstein's replacement was confirmed?

Is this correct? Am I missing something?

That’s not correct. If Rosenstein refuses to do it, President Trump can fire him and ask Rachel Bland to carry out the order. Trump has the authority to fire Mueller. The only question is the political calculation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-donor-asked-data-firm-if-it-could-better-organize-hacked-emails-1509133587


Hmmm, and how would Rebecca Mercer happen to know that Hillary Clinton's emails were soon to be leaked by Wikileaks?

Please cut and paste the relevant quotes. Story is hidden behind paywall, and I, for one, refuse to give Rupert Murdoch a single cent of my money.

np. You realize that you can just google "Rebekah Mercer and Cambridge Analytica" and you will find several sources. I would present one, but I don't know which sources you will turn your nose up at.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-donor-asked-data-firm-if-it-could-better-organize-hacked-emails-1509133587


Hmmm, and how would Rebecca Mercer happen to know that Hillary Clinton's emails were soon to be leaked by Wikileaks?

Please cut and paste the relevant quotes. Story is hidden behind paywall, and I, for one, refuse to give Rupert Murdoch a single cent of my money.

NP. I read it elsewhere. The gist of it is that prior to the public finding out that Wikileaks had Hillary's stolen emails (or had manufactured them), Rebekah Mercer offered Cambridge Analytica's help in indexing said stolen property so that they would be more easily searchable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can Trump simply fire Mueller at this point if the heat really turns up?

He probably could -- although the special counsel position was designed to not allow that. It would be insane for Trump to do it, although I don't know if he realizes that. It would be much worse than firing Comey, and that was very bad for Trump.

How could Trump fire Mueller? The only person who can fire Mueller is Rod Rosenstein. Can you see him firing Mueller? Trump would have to fire Rosenstein, then find a replacement who would fire Mueller. Doesn't Rosenstein's position require confirmation? So wouldn't any firing of Mueller have to wait until Rosenstein's replacement was confirmed?

Is this correct? Am I missing something?

That’s not correct. If Rosenstein refuses to do it, President Trump can fire him and ask Rachel Bland to carry out the order. Trump has the authority to fire Mueller. The only question is the political calculation.

Not directly, no he doesn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why am I not surprised that CNN has close ties with Fusion GPS:

CNN’s reporting on the Trump-Russia dossier has left out at least one crucial fact: the close ties between the network and the opposition research firm at the center of the dossier controversy.

CNN’s reporting on the dossier, led by justice correspondent Evan Perez, has been favorable to the firm, Fusion GPS, and hyped the dossier’s credibility. Left out of Perez’s reporting, which has relied largely on unnamed sources, is his personal closeness to Fusion GPS’ operatives. Fusion has repeatedly been described in Senate testimonies as a smear-for-hire operation that manufactures misleading or false media narratives for its clients.

Glenn Simpson, the Fusion co-founder most often associated with the dossier, is used to working on stories with Perez. As reporters at The Wall Street Journal, Perez and Simpson regularly co-authored stories on national security.

Did you write this yourself?

You are implying that Perez and Simpson's history as WSJ journalists together is a black mark. Seems like an indication that they're reputable to me.

Italics indicate no. Daily Caller article. Read it.

All opposition research firms are paid to dig up dirt and frame it in a negative light. Where do you think all those negative campaign ads come from?

Russia!

The unnamed Dossier sources were Russians, btw.

Does everyone know this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can Trump simply fire Mueller at this point if the heat really turns up?

He probably could -- although the special counsel position was designed to not allow that. It would be insane for Trump to do it, although I don't know if he realizes that. It would be much worse than firing Comey, and that was very bad for Trump.

How could Trump fire Mueller? The only person who can fire Mueller is Rod Rosenstein. Can you see him firing Mueller? Trump would have to fire Rosenstein, then find a replacement who would fire Mueller. Doesn't Rosenstein's position require confirmation? So wouldn't any firing of Mueller have to wait until Rosenstein's replacement was confirmed?

Is this correct? Am I missing something?

That’s not correct. If Rosenstein refuses to do it, President Trump can fire him and ask Rachel Bland to carry out the order. Trump has the authority to fire Mueller. The only question is the political calculation.

But Bland would not. And would be fired. And Bronte definately would not. And would be fired (he’s resigning anyway). No one with any professional credibility would fall out that sword. And is there currently anyone else Senate confirmed at the DOJ who could? Trump would run out of people to fire, and fast. And the Senate does not have the ones with Flake, McCain and Corker off the Trump train to appoint anyone else to fireMueller.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why am I not surprised that CNN has close ties with Fusion GPS:

CNN’s reporting on the Trump-Russia dossier has left out at least one crucial fact: the close ties between the network and the opposition research firm at the center of the dossier controversy.

CNN’s reporting on the dossier, led by justice correspondent Evan Perez, has been favorable to the firm, Fusion GPS, and hyped the dossier’s credibility. Left out of Perez’s reporting, which has relied largely on unnamed sources, is his personal closeness to Fusion GPS’ operatives. Fusion has repeatedly been described in Senate testimonies as a smear-for-hire operation that manufactures misleading or false media narratives for its clients.

Glenn Simpson, the Fusion co-founder most often associated with the dossier, is used to working on stories with Perez. As reporters at The Wall Street Journal, Perez and Simpson regularly co-authored stories on national security.

Did you write this yourself?

You are implying that Perez and Simpson's history as WSJ journalists together is a black mark. Seems like an indication that they're reputable to me.

Italics indicate no. Daily Caller article. Read it.

All opposition research firms are paid to dig up dirt and frame it in a negative light. Where do you think all those negative campaign ads come from?

Russia!

The unnamed Dossier sources were Russians, btw.

Does everyone know this?

Since about December, yes.

If you are having trouble following this tangled GOP/Russia/treason mess, I posted in another thread yesterday this whole timeline of info, sourced, with any editorializing in bright red https://www.scribd.com/document/360428007/The-Russian-White-Paper

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why am I not surprised that CNN has close ties with Fusion GPS:

CNN’s reporting on the Trump-Russia dossier has left out at least one crucial fact: the close ties between the network and the opposition research firm at the center of the dossier controversy.

CNN’s reporting on the dossier, led by justice correspondent Evan Perez, has been favorable to the firm, Fusion GPS, and hyped the dossier’s credibility. Left out of Perez’s reporting, which has relied largely on unnamed sources, is his personal closeness to Fusion GPS’ operatives. Fusion has repeatedly been described in Senate testimonies as a smear-for-hire operation that manufactures misleading or false media narratives for its clients.

Glenn Simpson, the Fusion co-founder most often associated with the dossier, is used to working on stories with Perez. As reporters at The Wall Street Journal, Perez and Simpson regularly co-authored stories on national security.

Did you write this yourself?

You are implying that Perez and Simpson's history as WSJ journalists together is a black mark. Seems like an indication that they're reputable to me.

Italics indicate no. Daily Caller article. Read it.

All opposition research firms are paid to dig up dirt and frame it in a negative light. Where do you think all those negative campaign ads come from?

Russia!

The unnamed Dossier sources were Russians, btw.

Does everyone know this?

Yes, pretty much. All of the articles going back almost a year to the original David Corn piece in Mother Jones discuss this. Steel was a British operative with contacts throughout Europe. He gathered information directly from Russians (some of whom have died mysteriously in the late Dec-Early jan timeframe) and from other European operatives.

Remember, other countries have espionage capability and many of them are friends of the US IC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can Trump simply fire Mueller at this point if the heat really turns up?

He probably could -- although the special counsel position was designed to not allow that. It would be insane for Trump to do it, although I don't know if he realizes that. It would be much worse than firing Comey, and that was very bad for Trump.

How could Trump fire Mueller? The only person who can fire Mueller is Rod Rosenstein. Can you see him firing Mueller? Trump would have to fire Rosenstein, then find a replacement who would fire Mueller. Doesn't Rosenstein's position require confirmation? So wouldn't any firing of Mueller have to wait until Rosenstein's replacement was confirmed?

Is this correct? Am I missing something?

That’s not correct. If Rosenstein refuses to do it, President Trump can fire him and ask Rachel Bland to carry out the order. Trump has the authority to fire Mueller. The only question is the political calculation.

Who is Rachel Bland? Why would she have the authority to fire Mueller? Please cite the statute.

[Anonymous]

She would if Rosenstein were fired, as she is a senate confirmed Executive within the AG structure. Essentially, she is next in line of succession.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why am I not surprised that CNN has close ties with Fusion GPS:

CNN’s reporting on the Trump-Russia dossier has left out at least one crucial fact: the close ties between the network and the opposition research firm at the center of the dossier controversy.

CNN’s reporting on the dossier, led by justice correspondent Evan Perez, has been favorable to the firm, Fusion GPS, and hyped the dossier’s credibility. Left out of Perez’s reporting, which has relied largely on unnamed sources, is his personal closeness to Fusion GPS’ operatives. Fusion has repeatedly been described in Senate testimonies as a smear-for-hire operation that manufactures misleading or false media narratives for its clients.

Glenn Simpson, the Fusion co-founder most often associated with the dossier, is used to working on stories with Perez. As reporters at The Wall Street Journal, Perez and Simpson regularly co-authored stories on national security.

Did you write this yourself?

You are implying that Perez and Simpson's history as WSJ journalists together is a black mark. Seems like an indication that they're reputable to me.

Italics indicate no. Daily Caller article. Read it.

All opposition research firms are paid to dig up dirt and frame it in a negative light. Where do you think all those negative campaign ads come from?

Russia!

The unnamed Dossier sources were Russians, btw.

Does everyone know this?

Since about December, yes.

If you are having trouble following this tangled GOP/Russia/treason mess, I posted in another thread yesterday this whole timeline of info, sourced, with any editorializing in bright red https://www.scribd.com/document/360428007/The-Russian-White-Paper

Thank you for this.