Pray for Charlotte, NC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Video reportedly filmed by Mr.Scott's daughter. Very graphic language warning.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7orooPJsrSU

What was the reason for posting this? Graphic language is a tame description. Frankly I tabbed through it.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oops meant with :27 left in the video you can see it..so about a minute and a half in

Yes indeed - there is the gun right there - just as the police have said all along.

In contrast, the family claims there never was a gun; that he only had a book. They are liars, obviously. Everyone can see the gun laying right there on the ground next to him.

And the police asked him over and over. His wife asked him over and over, speaking of which:



The new video (filmed by the wife and released by her) has audio of her saying:

"KEITH, DONT DO IT!" "KEITH KEITH KEITH - DONT YOU DO IT!"

What is she telling him not to do? This was not an unlawful use of force from what I've seen.

And again: THE OFFICER IS BLACK.

I can't see a gun. Moreover, the poster to whom you are replying now appears to believe the object is a glove (which is consistent with what I saw in the video of the black policeman dropping at least two black flexible objects on the ground). The video demonstrates that the police did nothing to deescalate the situation. Even if Scott had a gun, the state is open carry. The police acted very poorly in this situation. The wife was right there telling them that Scott suffered from traumatic brain injury. They could have used her to help get him out of the truck.

We have to expect more from our police officers. Both officers themselves and the public would be safer if training emphasized how to avoid escalating incidents to the point where force is used. We have seen that both in this situation, in Tulsa, and even with the girl who was pepper-sprayed in Hagerstown.

[Anonymous]

Get a volunteer physiologist to every crime scene.
Know any?

[Anonymous]

Holding a gun in your hand is not open carry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once BLM came out with their list of "demands," which reeked of hostility - even hatred - toward whites, along with their anti-Israel rantings, I lost any modicum of respect for them. They should be out there on the airwaves, imploring the rioters to behave peacefully, lest they feed the very sterotypes they are trying to dispel. They were better last night - thanks, National Guard - but the previous two nights showed why police might be nervous around blacks and, in a freak-out moment, prematurely pull the trigger.

The bolded is my sentiments exactly. That is where the movement lost me.

What a coincidence...
Once I saw Rodney King get his ass kicked for 20 minutes with no attempt at apprehension - just an old fashioned ass-whupping by some good ol' boys with guns and badges that's when my mistrust of the police began.
And once I saw Eric Garner get choked out for (GASP!!) selling lose cigarettes that's when my mistrust of the police gained traction.
And once I saw Tamir Rice get blown away in 2 seconds with no hesitation and no attempt at deescalation (if it were indeed somebody waving a gun) that's when my mistrust of police gained grew.
And once I saw Walter Scott get shot in the back while running away and then saw the cop walk up and plant a gun next to him to fabricate some story about a struggle and/or a threat that's when my mistrust of police was certain.

Hmmm....
And, I remember Reginald Denny getting beaten, nearly to death, by 4 black men rioting in LA.
And, I remember a mob, just a couple of days ago, attacking a female truck driver, looting the contents of her truck and setting it on fire.
And, I remember, just s couple nights ago, a “protester” shooting and killing a person in the crowd for no good reason.
I could go on, but you get my point........
So, the pp has a point. There may be a reason that the police, and others, are just a little nervous around large crowds of angry people where BLM has a presence. Especially since some of these folks would like to put the “pigs in a blanket - fry ‘em like bacon.”

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oops meant with :27 left in the video you can see it..so about a minute and a half in

Yes indeed - there is the gun right there - just as the police have said all along.

In contrast, the family claims there never was a gun; that he only had a book. They are liars, obviously. Everyone can see the gun laying right there on the ground next to him.

And the police asked him over and over. His wife asked him over and over, speaking of which:



The new video (filmed by the wife and released by her) has audio of her saying:

"KEITH, DONT DO IT!" "KEITH KEITH KEITH - DONT YOU DO IT!"

What is she telling him not to do? This was not an unlawful use of force from what I've seen.

And again: THE OFFICER IS BLACK.

I can't see a gun. Moreover, the poster to whom you are replying now appears to believe the object is a glove (which is consistent with what I saw in the video of the black policeman dropping at least two black flexible objects on the ground). The video demonstrates that the police did nothing to deescalate the situation. Even if Scott had a gun, the state is open carry. The police acted very poorly in this situation. The wife was right there telling them that Scott suffered from traumatic brain injury. They could have used her to help get him out of the truck.

We have to expect more from our police officers. Both officers themselves and the public would be safer if training emphasized how to avoid escalating incidents to the point where force is used. We have seen that both in this situation, in Tulsa, and even with the girl who was pepper-sprayed in Hagerstown.

Exactly which makes the race of the officer irrelevant.
Wouldn't matter if it was an Arab woman wearing a hijab who shot him - if she's a poorly trained police officer incapable of or unwilling to deescalate situations then he'd still be dead and people would still be pissed off at the police.
(My bad ain't mean to jump on your post Jeff just appreciate the point made)

[Anonymous]

Wait....
The police found a gun on the scene with Scott’s fingerprints, DNA, and blood on it.

Are some of you thinking that the gun was planted? Does the video show a gun being planted after making sure his fingerprints, blood, and DNA got on it? What about the book? None was found. Does the video show them taking a book and hiding it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once BLM came out with their list of "demands," which reeked of hostility - even hatred - toward whites, along with their anti-Israel rantings, I lost any modicum of respect for them. They should be out there on the airwaves, imploring the rioters to behave peacefully, lest they feed the very sterotypes they are trying to dispel. They were better last night - thanks, National Guard - but the previous two nights showed why police might be nervous around blacks and, in a freak-out moment, prematurely pull the trigger.

The bolded is my sentiments exactly. That is where the movement lost me.

What a coincidence...
Once I saw Rodney King get his ass kicked for 20 minutes with no attempt at apprehension - just an old fashioned ass-whupping by some good ol' boys with guns and badges that's when my mistrust of the police began.
And once I saw Eric Garner get choked out for (GASP!!) selling lose cigarettes that's when my mistrust of the police gained traction.
And once I saw Tamir Rice get blown away in 2 seconds with no hesitation and no attempt at deescalation (if it were indeed somebody waving a gun) that's when my mistrust of police gained grew.
And once I saw Walter Scott get shot in the back while running away and then saw the cop walk up and plant a gun next to him to fabricate some story about a struggle and/or a threat that's when my mistrust of police was certain.

Hmmm....
And, I remember Reginald Denny getting beaten, nearly to death, by 4 black men rioting in LA.
And, I remember a mob, just a couple of days ago, attacking a female truck driver, looting the contents of her truck and setting it on fire.
And, I remember, just s couple nights ago, a “protester” shooting and killing a person in the crowd for no good reason.
I could go on, but you get my point........
So, the pp has a point. There may be a reason that the police, and others, are just a little nervous around large crowds of angry people where BLM has a presence. Especially since some of these folks would like to put the “pigs in a blanket - fry ‘em like bacon.”

So essentially you run out the elevator in your office building when you see a black man in there?
You avoid all contact and correspondence with colleagues who are black because they have a proclivity for violence?
You shun your black neighbors and scurry your kids away from black families at playgrounds because of what some roused up protesters were chanting?

[Anonymous]

I'm seeing some posts on Twitter saying the video shows the police planted the gun, but what they're seeing are the gloves.

I hope it's a peaceful night of protests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see since the "He was reaching in the car" argument about the shooting in Tulsa was proven to be some bullshit everyone has abandoned the defense of that officer and now they're jumping on the "He had a gun" bandwagon.

Lol - y'all too pressed.

Loool. Poor trigger-happy, pot-loving Shelby from Oklahoma . Pig apologists have abandoned her and off to their next apology mission .

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Wait....
The police found a gun on the scene with Scott’s fingerprints, DNA, and blood on it.

Are some of you thinking that the gun was planted? Does the video show a gun being planted after making sure his fingerprints, blood, and DNA got on it? What about the book? None was found. Does the video show them taking a book and hiding it?

The video doesn't show that. Nor does it show a gun. Are you sure the gun wasn't planted? Did you see the two pictures I posted? Do you wonder how the gun managed to materialize in the second one?

Note, I am not saying that I believe the gun was planted. I am simply saying that we know of multiple times that the police have planted weapons as, as such, their claims about guns should be taken with a grain of salt.

[Anonymous]

Are some of you thinking that the gun was planted? Does the video show a gun being planted after making sure his fingerprints, blood, and DNA got on it? What about the book? None was found. Does the video show them taking a book and hiding it?

I find it hard to believe that the police planted anything--after all, the wife was there with her video.

I find it pretty incriminating that the wife was screaming repeatedly"Keith, don't do it!" "Keith don't do it!"Telling the police that he had a TBI is not very helpful. Someone with a TBI could kill somebody as easily as someone without one. So, the police officer gets killed and we all say--"That's okay, the gunman had a TBI, so it doesn't count"?

Somehow, I think if that had been my husband that I would have dropped the camera and spent my time trying to talk my husband down.

[Anonymous]

The thread has been a bit of an eye opener for me.

The comments are overwhelmingly negative against the Black demonstrators / rioters. This is on a very liberal and progressive forum. That speaks volumes about the electability of HRC going forward. The whole BLM thing is creating a lot of backlash and will show up in the polls.

HRC is toast for coddling the Blacks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once BLM came out with their list of "demands," which reeked of hostility - even hatred - toward whites, along with their anti-Israel rantings, I lost any modicum of respect for them. They should be out there on the airwaves, imploring the rioters to behave peacefully, lest they feed the very sterotypes they are trying to dispel. They were better last night - thanks, National Guard - but the previous two nights showed why police might be nervous around blacks and, in a freak-out moment, prematurely pull the trigger.

The bolded is my sentiments exactly. That is where the movement lost me.

What a coincidence...
Once I saw Rodney King get his ass kicked for 20 minutes with no attempt at apprehension - just an old fashioned ass-whupping by some good ol' boys with guns and badges that's when my mistrust of the police began.
And once I saw Eric Garner get choked out for (GASP!!) selling lose cigarettes that's when my mistrust of the police gained traction.
And once I saw Tamir Rice get blown away in 2 seconds with no hesitation and no attempt at deescalation (if it were indeed somebody waving a gun) that's when my mistrust of police gained grew.
And once I saw Walter Scott get shot in the back while running away and then saw the cop walk up and plant a gun next to him to fabricate some story about a struggle and/or a threat that's when my mistrust of police was certain.

Hmmm....
And, I remember Reginald Denny getting beaten, nearly to death, by 4 black men rioting in LA.
And, I remember a mob, just a couple of days ago, attacking a female truck driver, looting the contents of her truck and setting it on fire.
And, I remember, just s couple nights ago, a “protester” shooting and killing a person in the crowd for no good reason.
I could go on, but you get my point........
So, the pp has a point. There may be a reason that the police, and others, are just a little nervous around large crowds of angry people where BLM has a presence. Especially since some of these folks would like to put the “pigs in a blanket - fry ‘em like bacon.”

So essentially you run out the elevator in your office building when you see a black man in there?
You avoid all contact and correspondence with colleagues who are black because they have a proclivity for violence?
You shun your black neighbors and scurry your kids away from black families at playgrounds because of what some roused up protesters were chanting?

You are being purposely obtuse. Nothing in my post would cause a reasonable person to ask these questions.
I am done with you. You have an agenda and it is not possible to have a reasonable discussion with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are being purposely obtuse. Nothing in my post would cause a reasonable person to ask these questions.
I am done with you. You have an agenda and it is not possible to have a reasonable discussion with you.

Please - nobody's interested in a reasonable discussion people just wanna puke their prejudices under the safe and secure guise of anonymity and enjoy the opportunity to express their intolerance.
If you know good and got damn well that you're not paranoid of all black people as I obtusely inferred then what the hell was all that crap about being nervous around blacks?
Oh, that's right...you mentioned that it was "large crowds of angry black people where BLM has a presence" that makes people nervous.
Well uh, WTF was the deal with Keith Scott then? He was one man not a large crowd.
WTF was the deal with Terence Crutcher then? He was one man not a large crowd.
WTF was the deal with Tamir Rice then? He was a friggin kid not a large crowd.
Make up your damn mind are blacks to be feared in numbers or are they to be feared absolutely?
And if its the latter - absolutely - then please break down to me your rationale that my synopsis of your sentiments was obtuse.