IVF embryo error, custody settlement

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Anonymous wrote:It's an awful situation. But if I had to go with which mom gets custody, I'd choose the birth mom. I'd have a much easier time donating an embryo than being a surrogate (not that I'd choose to do either).

One more time:

The decision should be made based upon what’s best for the child, not what’s best for the moms.

Aren’t the two connected? There is an existing emotional bond between birth mother and baby that doesn’t exist with the biological mom.

Exactly! And we know this because the gestational mother said in a court filing that she’d really like to swap this baby for her own genetic child (who didn’t exist, it turns out).

Her supposed bond can’t be measured or proven but biological bonds can be.

I think we can infer something about her bond with the child from the fact that she was willing to give this baby up when she believed she would be able to swap it for her own genetic child.

Ah, the old “parents who give up their children love them more” trope.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t begrudge the parent. But it’s ridiculous to say without more information that giving up the child as opposed to fighting for the child was some martyr act of love. There are many, many reasons the bio parents might not have chosen to fight for the child in court.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's an awful situation. But if I had to go with which mom gets custody, I'd choose the birth mom. I'd have a much easier time donating an embryo than being a surrogate (not that I'd choose to do either).

One more time:

The decision should be made based upon what’s best for the child, not what’s best for the moms.

Aren’t the two connected? There is an existing emotional bond between birth mother and baby that doesn’t exist with the biological mom.

Exactly! And we know this because the gestational mother said in a court filing that she’d really like to swap this baby for her own genetic child (who didn’t exist, it turns out).

Her supposed bond can’t be measured or proven but biological bonds can be.

I think we can infer something about her bond with the child from the fact that she was willing to give this baby up when she believed she would be able to swap it for her own genetic child.

Right? Her first order of business was to find the parents. What mother needs to find her baby's parents?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's an awful situation. But if I had to go with which mom gets custody, I'd choose the birth mom. I'd have a much easier time donating an embryo than being a surrogate (not that I'd choose to do either).

One more time:

The decision should be made based upon what’s best for the child, not what’s best for the moms.

Aren’t the two connected? There is an existing emotional bond between birth mother and baby that doesn’t exist with the biological mom.

Exactly! And we know this because the gestational mother said in a court filing that she’d really like to swap this baby for her own genetic child (who didn’t exist, it turns out).

Her supposed bond can’t be measured or proven but biological bonds can be.

I think we can infer something about her bond with the child from the fact that she was willing to give this baby up when she believed she would be able to swap it for her own genetic child.

Right? Her first order of business was to find the parents. What mother needs to find her baby's parents?

Where did the parents ever say that. I thought they said they wanted to track down their embryos and their kid’s bio parents? I didn’t see anything about a swap, but maybe I missed it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's an awful situation. But if I had to go with which mom gets custody, I'd choose the birth mom. I'd have a much easier time donating an embryo than being a surrogate (not that I'd choose to do either).

One more time:

The decision should be made based upon what’s best for the child, not what’s best for the moms.

Aren’t the two connected? There is an existing emotional bond between birth mother and baby that doesn’t exist with the biological mom.

Exactly! And we know this because the gestational mother said in a court filing that she’d really like to swap this baby for her own genetic child (who didn’t exist, it turns out).

Her supposed bond can’t be measured or proven but biological bonds can be.

I think we can infer something about her bond with the child from the fact that she was willing to give this baby up when she believed she would be able to swap it for her own genetic child.

Ah, the old “parents who give up their children love them more” trope.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t begrudge the parent. But it’s ridiculous to say without more information that giving up the child as opposed to fighting for the child was some martyr act of love. There are many, many reasons the bio parents might not have chosen to fight for the child in court.

A single mom who has to use a gofundme doesn’t seem the best choice either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's an awful situation. But if I had to go with which mom gets custody, I'd choose the birth mom. I'd have a much easier time donating an embryo than being a surrogate (not that I'd choose to do either).

One more time:

The decision should be made based upon what’s best for the child, not what’s best for the moms.

Aren’t the two connected? There is an existing emotional bond between birth mother and baby that doesn’t exist with the biological mom.

Exactly! And we know this because the gestational mother said in a court filing that she’d really like to swap this baby for her own genetic child (who didn’t exist, it turns out).

Her supposed bond can’t be measured or proven but biological bonds can be.

I think we can infer something about her bond with the child from the fact that she was willing to give this baby up when she believed she would be able to swap it for her own genetic child.

Ah, the old “parents who give up their children love them more” trope.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t begrudge the parent. But it’s ridiculous to say without more information that giving up the child as opposed to fighting for the child was some martyr act of love. There are many, many reasons the bio parents might not have chosen to fight for the child in court.

I’m talking about the woman who birthed the child. She was initially trying to locate the genetic parents in the hopes that they had her genetic child and they could swap. I think that strongly suggests that she doesn’t have some profound connection to this child.

[Anonymous]

Did you see in the gofundme story that they need IVF funds for more rounds and treatments? For some reason they have a baby yet it’s not fulfilling enough that they still desperately want a genetic related baby. And people are downplaying genetic bonds. They clearly want their own baby and disregard the bio parents bonds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did you see in the gofundme story that they need IVF funds for more rounds and treatments? For some reason they have a baby yet it’s not fulfilling enough that they still desperately want a genetic related baby. And people are downplaying genetic bonds. They clearly want their own baby and disregard the bio parents bonds.

You think people who want more than one child are selfish?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's an awful situation. But if I had to go with which mom gets custody, I'd choose the birth mom. I'd have a much easier time donating an embryo than being a surrogate (not that I'd choose to do either).

One more time:

The decision should be made based upon what’s best for the child, not what’s best for the moms.

Aren’t the two connected? There is an existing emotional bond between birth mother and baby that doesn’t exist with the biological mom.

Exactly! And we know this because the gestational mother said in a court filing that she’d really like to swap this baby for her own genetic child (who didn’t exist, it turns out).

Her supposed bond can’t be measured or proven but biological bonds can be.

I think we can infer something about her bond with the child from the fact that she was willing to give this baby up when she believed she would be able to swap it for her own genetic child.

Right? Her first order of business was to find the parents. What mother needs to find her baby's parents?

Where did the parents ever say that. I thought they said they wanted to track down their embryos and their kid’s bio parents? I didn’t see anything about a swap, but maybe I missed it.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-couple-sues-fertility-clinic-allegedly-giving-birth-someone-elses-baby

They intended to reunite this baby with the genetic parents when they still had hope that some other women was pregnant with or had given birth to their genetic child. When they learned that had not happened, they decided to keep this baby.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did you see in the gofundme story that they need IVF funds for more rounds and treatments? For some reason they have a baby yet it’s not fulfilling enough that they still desperately want a genetic related baby. And people are downplaying genetic bonds. They clearly want their own baby and disregard the bio parents bonds.

You think people who want more than one child are selfish?

If you have to beg money from friends and family? Diverting funds from your newborn? Yes of course. They sound nuts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you see in the gofundme story that they need IVF funds for more rounds and treatments? For some reason they have a baby yet it’s not fulfilling enough that they still desperately want a genetic related baby. And people are downplaying genetic bonds. They clearly want their own baby and disregard the bio parents bonds.

You think people who want more than one child are selfish?

If you have to beg money from friends and family? Diverting funds from your newborn? Yes of course. They sound nuts.

The sister made the gofundme, and poor people have kids all the time…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you see in the gofundme story that they need IVF funds for more rounds and treatments? For some reason they have a baby yet it’s not fulfilling enough that they still desperately want a genetic related baby. And people are downplaying genetic bonds. They clearly want their own baby and disregard the bio parents bonds.

You think people who want more than one child are selfish?

If you have to beg money from friends and family? Diverting funds from your newborn? Yes of course. They sound nuts.

The sister made the gofundme, and poor people have kids all the time…

She's almost 45 years old.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you see in the gofundme story that they need IVF funds for more rounds and treatments? For some reason they have a baby yet it’s not fulfilling enough that they still desperately want a genetic related baby. And people are downplaying genetic bonds. They clearly want their own baby and disregard the bio parents bonds.

You think people who want more than one child are selfish?

If you have to beg money from friends and family? Diverting funds from your newborn? Yes of course. They sound nuts.

The sister made the gofundme, and poor people have kids all the time…

Poor people have kids the usual way and if I didn't really want anymore IVF I sure as shit would make my sister take it down. Are you nuts as well?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's an awful situation. But if I had to go with which mom gets custody, I'd choose the birth mom. I'd have a much easier time donating an embryo than being a surrogate (not that I'd choose to do either).

One more time:

The decision should be made based upon what’s best for the child, not what’s best for the moms.

Aren’t the two connected? There is an existing emotional bond between birth mother and baby that doesn’t exist with the biological mom.

Exactly! And we know this because the gestational mother said in a court filing that she’d really like to swap this baby for her own genetic child (who didn’t exist, it turns out).

Her supposed bond can’t be measured or proven but biological bonds can be.

I think we can infer something about her bond with the child from the fact that she was willing to give this baby up when she believed she would be able to swap it for her own genetic child.

Right? Her first order of business was to find the parents. What mother needs to find her baby's parents?

Where did the parents ever say that. I thought they said they wanted to track down their embryos and their kid’s bio parents? I didn’t see anything about a swap, but maybe I missed it.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-couple-sues-fertility-clinic-allegedly-giving-birth-someone-elses-baby

They intended to reunite this baby with the genetic parents when they still had hope that some other women was pregnant with or had given birth to their genetic child. When they learned that had not happened, they decided to keep this baby.

It says nowhere that they wanted to swap the child. It says they wanted to identify the bio parents because they felt they felt they had a right to know and would want the same. The fundraiser refers to the birth parents as the baby’s parents. They express fear that the baby “could be taken from them at any moment.”

I have no how idea you could so heartless and cruel as to read into this that the birth parents wanted to trade babies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's an awful situation. But if I had to go with which mom gets custody, I'd choose the birth mom. I'd have a much easier time donating an embryo than being a surrogate (not that I'd choose to do either).

One more time:

The decision should be made based upon what’s best for the child, not what’s best for the moms.

Aren’t the two connected? There is an existing emotional bond between birth mother and baby that doesn’t exist with the biological mom.

Exactly! And we know this because the gestational mother said in a court filing that she’d really like to swap this baby for her own genetic child (who didn’t exist, it turns out).

Her supposed bond can’t be measured or proven but biological bonds can be.

I think we can infer something about her bond with the child from the fact that she was willing to give this baby up when she believed she would be able to swap it for her own genetic child.

Ah, the old “parents who give up their children love them more” trope.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t begrudge the parent. But it’s ridiculous to say without more information that giving up the child as opposed to fighting for the child was some martyr act of love. There are many, many reasons the bio parents might not have chosen to fight for the child in court.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you see in the gofundme story that they need IVF funds for more rounds and treatments? For some reason they have a baby yet it’s not fulfilling enough that they still desperately want a genetic related baby. And people are downplaying genetic bonds. They clearly want their own baby and disregard the bio parents bonds.

You think people who want more than one child are selfish?

If you have to beg money from friends and family? Diverting funds from your newborn? Yes of course. They sound nuts.

The sister made the gofundme, and poor people have kids all the time…

Poor people have kids the usual way and if I didn't really want anymore IVF I sure as shit would make my sister take it down. Are you nuts as well?

I don’t believe in double standards.