Zohran Mamdani...

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people assuming a city-owned grocery store in a food desert will only be stocked with fruits and vegetables?

There's no reason why it can't include rotisserie chicken, cheap ready-to-eat meals, meal of the day, etc. In fact, if you have one store in each borough, they can centralize prepared food production and do a daily variety.

But won't someone think of the rotting vegetables!!!11!!1!

Processed food has preservatives and can last forever. Dairy and produce cannot. The city will subsidize and pay for all those rotting vegetables and in low income and even high income areas, fresh vegetables are never selected . Grocery chains usually have a deal of the day in produce section to attract customers but with the ice raids and tarriffs that can’t happen anymore so even more Americans are ditching produce

Out of one side of your mouth you all complain about SNAP paying for unhealthy food, screeching about how poor people shouldn't be buying soda, and now someone wants to make healthier food more accessible, and now you're complaining about that out the other side of your mouth. Please make up your stupid little minds, because it sounds like you just don't want poor people to eat.

Ding ding ding!

This! PP cannot figure out if they are taking the MAHA side or not. Sounds like they do not want to MAHA?

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Anonymous wrote:How are governments grocery stores supposed to work logistically?

He wants one in each borough in food deserts. It’s going to be a huge mess if half of their produce department needs to be thrown out weekly because nobody buys. The food desert residents like those in the projects are used to cheap fast food, deli sandwiches, Sodas,and snack foods along with the lotto tickets and cigarettes from the bodegas.

They aren’t going to get a cart of vegetables without a car mind you and walk to their walk up apartment in nyc

How many government studies will it take to determine what is appropriate to stock in the grocery store?

They’ll stock the same things that the corporate grocery stores that the government already subsidizes do.

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Anonymous wrote:Dcum...where the people making $1M per year are "middle class" and just need some more billionaire money to make sure the poor get their free food. The height of generosity

You know that if you make $1M per year it would take you 1,000 years to make $1B? Just for context.

For a bunch of folks that claim to be Christian and also hate gay people the MAGAs sure do hare helping the needy and love to kiss every square millimeter of billionaires balls.

At 0% interest. You don't understand money so perhaps you should stop posting.

Neither of you understand taking an educated risk, building a company of value, and then becoming wealthy.

Your welfare payments won’t do that for you and neither will your salary or hourly wage job.

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Anonymous wrote:This is basically AOC all over again. Young upstart defeats older moderate and becomes a darling of the Left. Like AOC, Mamdani will likely provide plenty of fodder for the GOP to fundraise off of.

Closed primaries are killing this country.

Let’s see how he governs. Maybe he’ll surprise you.

I think the concept of city owned grocery stores is actually pretty interesting especially in underserved areas.

It would be better to offer some incentives to get actual grocery chains into neighborhoods that need them, or add more police to the area.

Yeah, let's keep trying to same things that have never worked! More capitalism and over policing is surely the solution!

Have you tried communism? Study up on grocery stores in the Soviet Union.

Idk, does it work at all like capitalist food deserts or capitalist obesity crises, or capitalist childhood malnutrition?

Anyway, I don't think Mamdani campaigned on communism, so...

Food deserts exists because the people who live there don't want it. It's really not that hard.

"Capitalist obesity crises" LMAO.

You think food deserts exist because the people there don't want food? LMAO!

Attributing every failure of the Soviet Union to communism is as stupid as ignoring the real failures of our capitalist state.

Does capitalism cause obesity? Not in an of itself. It's a nuanced issue. And so are the failures of the Soviet Union and communism as an economic system.

Please spend some time in an actual "food desert" and think about how many people there want to buy a bunch of raw broccoli to cook. Oh, wait, you probably live in some gentrified Trader Joes neighborhood and would never set foot in Ward 8.

Get over yourself.

The fact that you think poor people can't eat or cook fresh vegetables just tells us how much of a classist assh#le you are. It's about giving people in food deserts OPTIONS and CHOICE. Some will buy the broccoli, some will buy the packaged food. Respect their humanity - humans crave choices.

If you knew that grocery stores had a profit margin of like 2% you wouldn't be saying this nonsense. But you don't even have a slight grasp of this situtation, other than virtue signaling.

The 2% profit margin is why food deserts exist. It’s a market failure - grocery stores won’t open up in areas where people are poor because the grocery margins are so low.

You literally made the textbook case for government stepping in to fill the void of the market failure. Thank you.

Thank you! It's like they don't even hear what they are saying. People in these areas can't afford traditional grocery stores, so profits are even less. Hence, trying something different.

Maybe different should be lifting themselves out of poverty instead of fantasizing about an abundance of free and cheap?

Or we could tax billionaires and near billionaires a little more so that people can eat and afford to live. You know, the people that made these clowns billionaires in the first place.

So, they need somebody else’s money to buy food because they have spent their own money irresponsibly?

Do billionaires need constant tax cuts and government hand outs because they've been irresponsible with their money? Why are they the only ones allowed to expect something from their government?

a tax cut is not a handout.

by the way, what do you think billionaires do with their money?

Buy and eat broccoli. Clearly.

Maybe the whole farm, opco and supply chain too the way this thread is going.

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Anonymous wrote:This is basically AOC all over again. Young upstart defeats older moderate and becomes a darling of the Left. Like AOC, Mamdani will likely provide plenty of fodder for the GOP to fundraise off of.

Closed primaries are killing this country.

Let’s see how he governs. Maybe he’ll surprise you.

I think the concept of city owned grocery stores is actually pretty interesting especially in underserved areas.

It would be better to offer some incentives to get actual grocery chains into neighborhoods that need them, or add more police to the area.

Yeah, let's keep trying to same things that have never worked! More capitalism and over policing is surely the solution!

Have you tried communism? Study up on grocery stores in the Soviet Union.

Idk, does it work at all like capitalist food deserts or capitalist obesity crises, or capitalist childhood malnutrition?

Anyway, I don't think Mamdani campaigned on communism, so...

Food deserts exists because the people who live there don't want it. It's really not that hard.

"Capitalist obesity crises" LMAO.

You think food deserts exist because the people there don't want food? LMAO!

Attributing every failure of the Soviet Union to communism is as stupid as ignoring the real failures of our capitalist state.

Does capitalism cause obesity? Not in an of itself. It's a nuanced issue. And so are the failures of the Soviet Union and communism as an economic system.

Please spend some time in an actual "food desert" and think about how many people there want to buy a bunch of raw broccoli to cook. Oh, wait, you probably live in some gentrified Trader Joes neighborhood and would never set foot in Ward 8.

Get over yourself.

The fact that you think poor people can't eat or cook fresh vegetables just tells us how much of a classist assh#le you are. It's about giving people in food deserts OPTIONS and CHOICE. Some will buy the broccoli, some will buy the packaged food. Respect their humanity - humans crave choices.

If you knew that grocery stores had a profit margin of like 2% you wouldn't be saying this nonsense. But you don't even have a slight grasp of this situtation, other than virtue signaling.

The 2% profit margin is why food deserts exist. It’s a market failure - grocery stores won’t open up in areas where people are poor because the grocery margins are so low.

You literally made the textbook case for government stepping in to fill the void of the market failure. Thank you.

Thank you! It's like they don't even hear what they are saying. People in these areas can't afford traditional grocery stores, so profits are even less. Hence, trying something different.

Maybe different should be lifting themselves out of poverty instead of fantasizing about an abundance of free and cheap?

Or we could tax billionaires and near billionaires a little more so that people can eat and afford to live. You know, the people that made these clowns billionaires in the first place.

So, they need somebody else’s money to buy food because they have spent their own money irresponsibly?

Do billionaires need constant tax cuts and government hand outs because they've been irresponsible with their money? Why are they the only ones allowed to expect something from their government?

a tax cut is not a handout.

by the way, what do you think billionaires do with their money?

Buy yachts. It’s the only way to absorb the money.

Like the Russian oligarchs in Turkey and Cyprus!

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Anonymous wrote:This is basically AOC all over again. Young upstart defeats older moderate and becomes a darling of the Left. Like AOC, Mamdani will likely provide plenty of fodder for the GOP to fundraise off of.

Closed primaries are killing this country.

Let’s see how he governs. Maybe he’ll surprise you.

I think the concept of city owned grocery stores is actually pretty interesting especially in underserved areas.

It would be better to offer some incentives to get actual grocery chains into neighborhoods that need them, or add more police to the area.

Yeah, let's keep trying to same things that have never worked! More capitalism and over policing is surely the solution!

Have you tried communism? Study up on grocery stores in the Soviet Union.

Idk, does it work at all like capitalist food deserts or capitalist obesity crises, or capitalist childhood malnutrition?

Anyway, I don't think Mamdani campaigned on communism, so...

Food deserts exists because the people who live there don't want it. It's really not that hard.

"Capitalist obesity crises" LMAO.

You think food deserts exist because the people there don't want food? LMAO!

Attributing every failure of the Soviet Union to communism is as stupid as ignoring the real failures of our capitalist state.

Does capitalism cause obesity? Not in an of itself. It's a nuanced issue. And so are the failures of the Soviet Union and communism as an economic system.

Please spend some time in an actual "food desert" and think about how many people there want to buy a bunch of raw broccoli to cook. Oh, wait, you probably live in some gentrified Trader Joes neighborhood and would never set foot in Ward 8.

Get over yourself.

The fact that you think poor people can't eat or cook fresh vegetables just tells us how much of a classist assh#le you are. It's about giving people in food deserts OPTIONS and CHOICE. Some will buy the broccoli, some will buy the packaged food. Respect their humanity - humans crave choices.

lol

Go check out the free school breakfast and lunches and report back what goes in the garbage versus down someone’s mouth.

I have a kid. I know he prefers junk food, almost all kids do. But he has to eat fruit and veggies when he's at my dinner table.

Again, it's so illuminating that you compare people in poor neighborhoods to school children. I stand by assertion: classist assh#le.

They don’t shop, cook or eat well and they don’t for their 4.5 children from different fathers either. Neither does their unwed grandmother whom they live with.

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Anonymous wrote:This is basically AOC all over again. Young upstart defeats older moderate and becomes a darling of the Left. Like AOC, Mamdani will likely provide plenty of fodder for the GOP to fundraise off of.

Closed primaries are killing this country.

Let’s see how he governs. Maybe he’ll surprise you.

I think the concept of city owned grocery stores is actually pretty interesting especially in underserved areas.

It would be better to offer some incentives to get actual grocery chains into neighborhoods that need them, or add more police to the area.

Yeah, let's keep trying to same things that have never worked! More capitalism and over policing is surely the solution!

Have you tried communism? Study up on grocery stores in the Soviet Union.

Idk, does it work at all like capitalist food deserts or capitalist obesity crises, or capitalist childhood malnutrition?

Anyway, I don't think Mamdani campaigned on communism, so...

Food deserts exists because the people who live there don't want it. It's really not that hard.

"Capitalist obesity crises" LMAO.

You think food deserts exist because the people there don't want food? LMAO!

Attributing every failure of the Soviet Union to communism is as stupid as ignoring the real failures of our capitalist state.

Does capitalism cause obesity? Not in an of itself. It's a nuanced issue. And so are the failures of the Soviet Union and communism as an economic system.

Please spend some time in an actual "food desert" and think about how many people there want to buy a bunch of raw broccoli to cook. Oh, wait, you probably live in some gentrified Trader Joes neighborhood and would never set foot in Ward 8.

Get over yourself.

The fact that you think poor people can't eat or cook fresh vegetables just tells us how much of a classist assh#le you are. It's about giving people in food deserts OPTIONS and CHOICE. Some will buy the broccoli, some will buy the packaged food. Respect their humanity - humans crave choices.

If you knew that grocery stores had a profit margin of like 2% you wouldn't be saying this nonsense. But you don't even have a slight grasp of this situtation, other than virtue signaling.

The 2% profit margin is why food deserts exist. It’s a market failure - grocery stores won’t open up in areas where people are poor because the grocery margins are so low.

You literally made the textbook case for government stepping in to fill the void of the market failure. Thank you.

Thank you! It's like they don't even hear what they are saying. People in these areas can't afford traditional grocery stores, so profits are even less. Hence, trying something different.

Maybe different should be lifting themselves out of poverty instead of fantasizing about an abundance of free and cheap?

Or we could tax billionaires and near billionaires a little more so that people can eat and afford to live. You know, the people that made these clowns billionaires in the first place.

serious question - how old are you?

If you are over 12 or 13 you should be embarrassed. do you really think that taxing a tiny fraction of the country "a little more" would enable everyone in the country a steady and comfortable meal train and place to live?

I think you fail to grasp just how much money a billion dollars is, let alone hundreds of billions.

What’s the national debt again? And diverse ratios? And social security run down time?

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Anonymous wrote:This is basically AOC all over again. Young upstart defeats older moderate and becomes a darling of the Left. Like AOC, Mamdani will likely provide plenty of fodder for the GOP to fundraise off of.

Closed primaries are killing this country.

Let’s see how he governs. Maybe he’ll surprise you.

I think the concept of city owned grocery stores is actually pretty interesting especially in underserved areas.

It would be better to offer some incentives to get actual grocery chains into neighborhoods that need them, or add more police to the area.

Yeah, let's keep trying to same things that have never worked! More capitalism and over policing is surely the solution!

Have you tried communism? Study up on grocery stores in the Soviet Union.

Idk, does it work at all like capitalist food deserts or capitalist obesity crises, or capitalist childhood malnutrition?

Anyway, I don't think Mamdani campaigned on communism, so...

Food deserts exists because the people who live there don't want it. It's really not that hard.

"Capitalist obesity crises" LMAO.

You think food deserts exist because the people there don't want food? LMAO!

Attributing every failure of the Soviet Union to communism is as stupid as ignoring the real failures of our capitalist state.

Does capitalism cause obesity? Not in an of itself. It's a nuanced issue. And so are the failures of the Soviet Union and communism as an economic system.

Please spend some time in an actual "food desert" and think about how many people there want to buy a bunch of raw broccoli to cook. Oh, wait, you probably live in some gentrified Trader Joes neighborhood and would never set foot in Ward 8.

Get over yourself.

The fact that you think poor people can't eat or cook fresh vegetables just tells us how much of a classist assh#le you are. It's about giving people in food deserts OPTIONS and CHOICE. Some will buy the broccoli, some will buy the packaged food. Respect their humanity - humans crave choices.

lol

Go check out the free school breakfast and lunches and report back what goes in the garbage versus down someone’s mouth.

I have a kid. I know he prefers junk food, almost all kids do. But he has to eat fruit and veggies when he's at my dinner table.

Again, it's so illuminating that you compare people in poor neighborhoods to school children. I stand by assertion: classist assh#le.

They don’t shop, cook or eat well and they don’t for their 4.5 children from different fathers either. Neither does their unwed grandmother whom they live with.

MAHA or no? Choose a lane.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people assuming a city-owned grocery store in a food desert will only be stocked with fruits and vegetables?

There's no reason why it can't include rotisserie chicken, cheap ready-to-eat meals, meal of the day, etc. In fact, if you have one store in each borough, they can centralize prepared food production and do a daily variety.

But won't someone think of the rotting vegetables!!!11!!1!

Processed food has preservatives and can last forever. Dairy and produce cannot. The city will subsidize and pay for all those rotting vegetables and in low income and even high income areas, fresh vegetables are never selected . Grocery chains usually have a deal of the day in produce section to attract customers but with the ice raids and tarriffs that can’t happen anymore so even more Americans are ditching produce

Out of one side of your mouth you all complain about SNAP paying for unhealthy food, screeching about how poor people shouldn't be buying soda, and now someone wants to make healthier food more accessible, and now you're complaining about that out the other side of your mouth. Please make up your stupid little minds, because it sounds like you just don't want poor people to eat.

Ding ding ding!

This! PP cannot figure out if they are taking the MAHA side or not. Sounds like they do not want to MAHA?

Wutz MAHA?

Make America homeless again?

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Happy again?

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Houses again?

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Harem?

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people assuming a city-owned grocery store in a food desert will only be stocked with fruits and vegetables?

There's no reason why it can't include rotisserie chicken, cheap ready-to-eat meals, meal of the day, etc. In fact, if you have one store in each borough, they can centralize prepared food production and do a daily variety.

But won't someone think of the rotting vegetables!!!11!!1!

Processed food has preservatives and can last forever. Dairy and produce cannot. The city will subsidize and pay for all those rotting vegetables and in low income and even high income areas, fresh vegetables are never selected . Grocery chains usually have a deal of the day in produce section to attract customers but with the ice raids and tarriffs that can’t happen anymore so even more Americans are ditching produce

Out of one side of your mouth you all complain about SNAP paying for unhealthy food, screeching about how poor people shouldn't be buying soda, and now someone wants to make healthier food more accessible, and now you're complaining about that out the other side of your mouth. Please make up your stupid little minds, because it sounds like you just don't want poor people to eat.

Ding ding ding!

This! PP cannot figure out if they are taking the MAHA side or not. Sounds like they do not want to MAHA?

Wutz MAHA?

Make America homeless again?

It is Trump's platform with RFK Jr get back to us when you sort it out. If you voted for Trump, you voted to MAHA!

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Anonymous wrote:The mainstream democratic party is dead and gone and buried. What's left are straight up communists. Sane business owners and "elites" will move.

Remarkable that today caring for the poor rather than enriching billionaires with more tax cuts is considered “communism”. This country has drifted so far to the right that people become enraged at the very notion of reducing income inequality.

Yeah, this thread is sad. People are SO scared of change. What we had with the Dems wasn't working either. I'm a GenX all for this kind of change. As my 19yo reminds me, whenever there is a flaw in a socialist country, socialism is blamed. But, democracy isn't ever blamed. I thought it was an interesting point. He pushes me, and frankly I think it's exciting. I'm more scared of a trumpist dictatorship/technobro cities than young socialists up and down and all the ways.

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Anonymous wrote:He's triggering Zionists nationwide with his lack of endorsement of apartheid which tells you he has actual morals and won't be one of AIPAC's sheep like more than 90% of politicians.

Especially Hakeem Jeffies.