Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study

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Anonymous wrote:Suddenly, I feel like QO high school is shining great among all 4 options. It is within walking distance, no busing and kids stay together from ES/MS.

Great as long as you are not in Kentlands.

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Busing the Kentlands to Gaithersburg or Crown is just absurd. Not that I’m not enjoying the maga there whose tiny racist brain cells are exploding about these new boundaries but because they are fiscally irresponsible of the county and stupid. Kentlands walks to QO there is no reality sending them to the other HS makes sense logistically or fiscally.

As for Dufief yes

As for Stonemill out of W again no because W is already under enrolled. And the mapping logic makes no sense either.

They will do the worst possible senerio people get ready for major bussing.

You realize parts of dufief, stone mill and Travilah of basically equidistant to Wootton? And Dufief has maybe 35 kids per grade TOTAL. Dufief is part of the Wootton community, has been since forever. They don’t want to move schools. Moving them doesn’t help anything. Wootton is under enrolled, as you said. Just leave dufief alone.

How about just leaving Wootton alone. Why does MCPS create 4 options just to generate fights between different ES within Wootton? That’s pure evil and community dividing. Crown is built to alleviate overcrowding of other schools and Wootton is not overcrowded. None of the four options change diversity of any school so just leave Wootton alone. Don’t make the poorer neighborhoods in Wootton to pay the price just to satisfy this diversity game.

In this case, which school neighborhood should zone to Crown HS?

Crown neighborhood, QO, RM, whatever left is overcrowded

Neighborhoods near Crown are currently zoned for Wootton. Makes sense to include it.

No that is only a bunch of townhouses and maybe some apartments. Not enough to play with Wooton. They should go to crown they are in waking distance but to take Stonemill out of wooton one of its largest feeders is stupid logistics. Wooton is under enrolled.

All four options added the whole Wayside ES to Wootton, so Wootton is not under-enrolled when that happens. Wayside doesn't want to go to Wootton anyways. They should leave both Churchill and Wootton alone.

It's not upto Wayside. MCPS should do whats best for entire county when it comes to over crowding.

Anyway, what's the difference between Churchill and Wootton? Both are good schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Travilah and dufief should go to QO and Kentlands should go to Crown with all the other City of Gaithersburg schools.

That is very logical. North Potomac, Travilah, and Darnestown go to Ridgeview / QO. The City of Gaithersburg schools go to Lakelands / Crown. Falls Grove and Ritchie Park to Wooton.

Then Wootton is not Wootton anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:Travilah and dufief should go to QO and Kentlands should go to Crown with all the other City of Gaithersburg schools.

That is very logical. North Potomac, Travilah, and Darnestown go to Ridgeview / QO. The City of Gaithersburg schools go to Lakelands / Crown. Falls Grove and Ritchie Park to Wooton.

Not gonna happen.

FG is close to Crown. RPES bring upper income to RMHS if FG moves to Crown.

I live in North Potomac(zoned to QO HS), not part of kentland/Lakeland, and not part of city of Gaithersburg district. I found out that I am not part of city of Gaithersburg through classes and camp registration. Where should I belong to?

Not sure what North Potomac means, but this will be driven by your (kid's?) ES. That's where you should belong to.

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A question: when MCPS conducts boundary studies in the past, are final options less extreme than first options?

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Anonymous wrote:Suddenly, I feel like QO high school is shining great among all 4 options. It is within walking distance, no busing and kids stay together from ES/MS.

Great as long as you are not in Kentlands.

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Busing the Kentlands to Gaithersburg or Crown is just absurd. Not that I’m not enjoying the maga there whose tiny racist brain cells are exploding about these new boundaries but because they are fiscally irresponsible of the county and stupid. Kentlands walks to QO there is no reality sending them to the other HS makes sense logistically or fiscally.

As for Dufief yes

As for Stonemill out of W again no because W is already under enrolled. And the mapping logic makes no sense either.

They will do the worst possible senerio people get ready for major bussing.

You realize parts of dufief, stone mill and Travilah of basically equidistant to Wootton? And Dufief has maybe 35 kids per grade TOTAL. Dufief is part of the Wootton community, has been since forever. They don’t want to move schools. Moving them doesn’t help anything. Wootton is under enrolled, as you said. Just leave dufief alone.

How about just leaving Wootton alone. Why does MCPS create 4 options just to generate fights between different ES within Wootton? That’s pure evil and community dividing. Crown is built to alleviate overcrowding of other schools and Wootton is not overcrowded. None of the four options change diversity of any school so just leave Wootton alone. Don’t make the poorer neighborhoods in Wootton to pay the price just to satisfy this diversity game.

In this case, which school neighborhood should zone to Crown HS?

Crown neighborhood, QO, RM, whatever left is overcrowded

Neighborhoods near Crown are currently zoned for Wootton. Makes sense to include it.

Only part that makes sense is that triangle. Not stone mill not lakewood not Dufief not Travilah

That part of neighborhood should redrawn to crown hs. Other than that leave the Wootton alone, plus why would they put wayside into Wootton

Because Churchill is overcapacity.

Not too much. If none of these families want to move, why force them

Current families not wanting to move is true in all schools and in all boudaries to avoid disruption. Decisions are long term and not jsut for current families. It's best to address over crowing issue. It will be shame to leave Churcill over crowded after building a new school jsut because some families in Wayside prefer Churchill over Wootton.

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Anonymous wrote:A question: when MCPS conducts boundary studies in the past, are final options less extreme than first options?

They are generally one of the options, or very close.

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Anonymous wrote:Travilah and dufief should go to QO and Kentlands should go to Crown with all the other City of Gaithersburg schools.

That is very logical. North Potomac, Travilah, and Darnestown go to Ridgeview / QO. The City of Gaithersburg schools go to Lakelands / Crown. Falls Grove and Ritchie Park to Wooton.

Not gonna happen.

FG is close to Crown. RPES bring upper income to RMHS if FG moves to Crown.

The rest of King Farm should go to RM

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Anonymous wrote:A question: when MCPS conducts boundary studies in the past, are final options less extreme than first options?

In the past, they have not started out with options that each only maximized one factor to this degree, so yes the final options have been less extreme. Also, this is the first boundary study which has hired consultants coming up with the options, rather than central office staff. I suspect there is some weirdness here because of that.

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Anonymous wrote:My bad, i read the table wrong. Yes, the numbers are all about the same.

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Anonymous wrote:Option 1&3: Churchill Asian increased from 33% to 37%, FARMS decreased from 10.9% to 9.9%. Wootton Asian increased from 37.4% to 43.2% and FARMS decreased from 13.4% to 11.9%.

I'm pretty sure the current options will exacerbate educational inequality, but I amsatisfied. I wonder can we reduce the FARMS to 5% or even lower for Churchill?

Are we looking at different data set? For all 4 options, Churchill Asian decrease from 37% to34.7% and farm from 9.9% to 9.8%.

So why even mess with Wootton families and force them to move out to QO and crown? There are only losers and the ones being moved out are the relatively poorer ones. Financial hit on them will be devastating. What’s even worse is that their kids will have to be separated from their friends. This kind of double whammy is too much.

Every school is going to experience change when a new school opens. They are not going to leave Wootton and Churchill as is in a boundary study. Can you imagine the backlash? And at least for Wootton there are definitely neighborhoods in the Wootton cluster close to Crown, some even walking distance like part of Fallsmead's boundary. And DuFief area is nowhere near Wootton. Ridgeview or Lakelands Park and QO makes much more sense for DuFief.

Every option has at least two Wootton elementary school impacted. What’s even worse in option 2 and 4 are small neighborhoods in both Lakewood and stone mill gets split. Who has empathy on these few kids who will have to be separated from their friends since 5 to a new high school with nobody else???

Kids are resilient. They will make new friends, especially when they are younger.

No my kids are not resilient. I hope your kids get the same change and be resilient

They have. My one kid moved ES 2x. They are now in college, at an oos internship making good money.

Moving in ES is totally different from being forced to move in HS. If you don’t wear my shoes, then don’t tell me kids are resilient

My kid also went to a different MS. But, there are kids today who go to a different HS due to split articulation from MS. They are fine.

Kids are resilient if you teach them to be. They won't be resilient if you push the "your world is going to fall apart" attitude onto your kids.

If it’s split 50/50 or close to that it’s fine. Now it’s the 5-10% gets split out. You can keep talking your kids are resilient crap but have some empathy on these kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Travilah and dufief should go to QO and Kentlands should go to Crown with all the other City of Gaithersburg schools.

That is very logical. North Potomac, Travilah, and Darnestown go to Ridgeview / QO. The City of Gaithersburg schools go to Lakelands / Crown. Falls Grove and Ritchie Park to Wooton.

Then Wootton is not Wootton anymore.

Most of the HS will look a bit different. Get over it.

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Anonymous wrote:Travilah and dufief should go to QO and Kentlands should go to Crown with all the other City of Gaithersburg schools.

That is very logical. North Potomac, Travilah, and Darnestown go to Ridgeview / QO. The City of Gaithersburg schools go to Lakelands / Crown. Falls Grove and Ritchie Park to Wooton.

Not gonna happen.

FG is close to Crown. RPES bring upper income to RMHS if FG moves to Crown.

The rest of King Farm should go to RM

And that is one of the options.

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Anonymous wrote:Travilah and dufief should go to QO and Kentlands should go to Crown with all the other City of Gaithersburg schools.

That is very logical. North Potomac, Travilah, and Darnestown go to Ridgeview / QO. The City of Gaithersburg schools go to Lakelands / Crown. Falls Grove and Ritchie Park to Wooton.

Not gonna happen.

FG is close to Crown. RPES bring upper income to RMHS if FG moves to Crown.

I live in North Potomac(zoned to QO HS), not part of kentland/Lakeland, and not part of city of Gaithersburg district. I found out that I am not part of city of Gaithersburg through classes and camp registration. Where should I belong to?

Not sure what North Potomac means, but this will be driven by your (kid's?) ES. That's where you should belong to.

Stone Mill, Dufief, Travilah, Thurgood Marshall, Jones Lane, Darnestown -> Ridgeview / QO

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Anonymous wrote:They're not gonna move Kentlands/Lakelands to gaithersburg high. Way too much money and influence there for them to do that. (not to mention it would be insane logistically)

Most people there won’t give a shit. Its not like QO is a high-class school, and most parents go private already anyways.

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Rachel Carson, Diamond, Fields Road, Brown Station -> Lakelands / Crown

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Anonymous wrote:Given the current financial environment/MCPS budget, I think they are going to prioritize the option that is the best for facility utilization.

Maybe they need to make walkers go to their HS within 2 miles instead of busing them past 1-3 HS to change around some FARMS numbers. It’s expensive and wasteful and it’s takes the neighborhood feel out for schools. Split MS is also a terrible idea. The maps are so messed up looking

Well said.... What a shame to bus walkers who live across the street from QO to go to Gaithersburg (or even Crowne)? We can literally hear the announcer at football games on Friday nights from my house... so much so that my 3 year old can't fall asleep. And you want to bus us away from this?? So frustrating!! Do better MCPS!

eh..I can hear the Friday night games at Wootton very clearly, but we are zoned for RM. We are also walking distance to Wootton, but none of the options have our neighborhood going back to Wootton.

Unfortunately, some of the HS are so close together that some neighborhoods will end up going to the school further away. Woodward and WJ are super close together, too, and they will have the same issues.

But at NO point should neighborhoods that are in walking distance to ANY school get bussed to another school, especially ones that back up to a school. Not with the congestion of this county, the traffic issues, emissions, climate change, and cost of buses/gas and the constant complaints of budget cuts.

And I know your area. It’s ridiculous to keep them going to RM, but instead move Wayside ES to Wootton. Buses all over Falls Rd/Wootton Parkway area that do not need to be there. Traffic is awful there every morning already. No one can drive down Wootton Parkway either direction from 7:15 to 8am every day. The buses have to drop off so early to avoid the traffic. Teens don’t want to arrive at school 7am for 7:45am start time. So they get driven instead. The same will be said for other schools.

The goal should be decrease traffic and congestion and encourage walking.

There just needs to be common sense and NONE of these address neighborhood issues. The fact Washingtonian tower and townhouses directly across the street from Crown will be bussed to Wootton still in most plans is abysmal. Kentlands buses to Gaithersburg, etc…