Early Predictions 2028: AOC, Whitmer, Newsome or …?

[Anonymous]

I think someone on here said it best, that we will know when we see it. Obama was that. We need charisma, warmth, someone who exudes integrity and intellect. Someone who can speak to the red states and blue states. Someone who can sharply see exactly what the times call for..

I'm not sure I've seen that yet.. and definitely not Newsome (lol).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think someone on here said it best, that we will know when we see it. Obama was that. We need charisma, warmth, someone who exudes integrity and intellect. Someone who can speak to the red states and blue states. Someone who can sharply see exactly what the times call for..

I'm not sure I've seen that yet.. and definitely not Newsome (lol).

Agree 100%. We'll know it when we see it and oh what a breath of fresh air it will be. I look forward to the day when both parties are once again putting forth legitimately presidential people. We'll then be able to discuss policy differences as opposed to fitness and corruption concerns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vance(?)/Trump vs. Buttigieg/Obama
Only “elected” twice still.
Although according to Donald’s truth he would have been elected POTUS 3 times. But the Constitution doesn’t matter anymore anyway

Vance is in an interracial marriage.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Vance(?)/Trump vs. Buttigieg/Obama
Only “elected” twice still.
Although according to Donald’s truth he would have been elected POTUS 3 times. But the Constitution doesn’t matter anymore anyway

Vance is in an interracial marriage.

Vance has zero chance of ever having success running for POTUS. Just ask Harris, Pence, and Mondale what political life is like after being VP of one of our 3 most unpopular presidents ever.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Vance(?)/Trump vs. Buttigieg/Obama
Only “elected” twice still.
Although according to Donald’s truth he would have been elected POTUS 3 times. But the Constitution doesn’t matter anymore anyway

Vance is in an interracial marriage.

Vance has zero chance of ever having success running for POTUS. Just ask Harris, Pence, and Mondale what political life is like after being VP of one of our 3 most unpopular presidents ever.

Repeating it does not make it true. Trump is not "unpopular". Not recognizing that is a huge part of the problem with many Democrats.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Vance(?)/Trump vs. Buttigieg/Obama
Only “elected” twice still.
Although according to Donald’s truth he would have been elected POTUS 3 times. But the Constitution doesn’t matter anymore anyway

Vance is in an interracial marriage.

Vance has zero chance of ever having success running for POTUS. Just ask Harris, Pence, and Mondale what political life is like after being VP of one of our 3 most unpopular presidents ever.

Repeating it does not make it true. Trump is not "unpopular". Not recognizing that is a huge part of the problem with many Democrats.

Well, he isn't unpopular relative Bin Laden and Jeffrey Dahmer but otherwise he is as unpopular as he was during his 1st term and even less popular than Biden was during the 1st year of his term. What happens to presidents as unpopular as Trump? They cause their party to lose big time in midterms and the next POTUS election.

If you don't understand these very basic facts that have been proven over and over recently, you're a complete idiot or just in denial.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Vance(?)/Trump vs. Buttigieg/Obama
Only “elected” twice still.
Although according to Donald’s truth he would have been elected POTUS 3 times. But the Constitution doesn’t matter anymore anyway

Vance is in an interracial marriage.

Vance has zero chance of ever having success running for POTUS. Just ask Harris, Pence, and Mondale what political life is like after being VP of one of our 3 most unpopular presidents ever.

Repeating it does not make it true. Trump is not "unpopular". Not recognizing that is a huge part of the problem with many Democrats.

I feel like we've reached a time where no president can be truly popular - they are automatically disliked by half the country. We'll never see the kind of approval ratings that GWB and Obama had in their first years.

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Anonymous wrote:Vance(?)/Trump vs. Buttigieg/Obama
Only “elected” twice still.
Although according to Donald’s truth he would have been elected POTUS 3 times. But the Constitution doesn’t matter anymore anyway

Vance is in an interracial marriage.

Vance has zero chance of ever having success running for POTUS. Just ask Harris, Pence, and Mondale what political life is like after being VP of one of our 3 most unpopular presidents ever.

Repeating it does not make it true. Trump is not "unpopular". Not recognizing that is a huge part of the problem with many Democrats.

I feel like we've reached a time where no president can be truly popular - they are automatically disliked by half the country. We'll never see the kind of approval ratings that GWB and Obama had in their first years.

By saying this you are ignoring the fact that Trump amd Biden were historically weak presidents relative to their predecessors. There is no equating Trump and Biden to Reagan, Obama, and Clinton.

Go back and watch debates prior to 2016 and then compare those to the Trump/Biden debates when those two elderly clowns embarrassed our country. That should be all it takes for you to understand the difference between Trump/Biden legitimate Presidents.

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Anonymous wrote:Vance(?)/Trump vs. Buttigieg/Obama
Only “elected” twice still.
Although according to Donald’s truth he would have been elected POTUS 3 times. But the Constitution doesn’t matter anymore anyway

Vance is in an interracial marriage.

Vance has zero chance of ever having success running for POTUS. Just ask Harris, Pence, and Mondale what political life is like after being VP of one of our 3 most unpopular presidents ever.

Repeating it does not make it true. Trump is not "unpopular". Not recognizing that is a huge part of the problem with many Democrats.

Well, he isn't unpopular relative Bin Laden and Jeffrey Dahmer but otherwise he is as unpopular as he was during his 1st term and even less popular than Biden was during the 1st year of his term. What happens to presidents as unpopular as Trump? They cause their party to lose big time in midterms and the next POTUS election.

If you don't understand these very basic facts that have been proven over and over recently, you're a complete idiot or just in denial.

You need to get out of the DCUM bubble. I bet you were "shocked" when he won both times because "everyone you know" wouldn’t vote for him. You’ll be "shocked" again when Vance wins. Like I said, not recognizing the popularity of Trump is a flaw of Democrats.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Vance(?)/Trump vs. Buttigieg/Obama
Only “elected” twice still.
Although according to Donald’s truth he would have been elected POTUS 3 times. But the Constitution doesn’t matter anymore anyway

Vance is in an interracial marriage.

Vance has zero chance of ever having success running for POTUS. Just ask Harris, Pence, and Mondale what political life is like after being VP of one of our 3 most unpopular presidents ever.

Repeating it does not make it true. Trump is not "unpopular". Not recognizing that is a huge part of the problem with many Democrats.

Well, he isn't unpopular relative Bin Laden and Jeffrey Dahmer but otherwise he is as unpopular as he was during his 1st term and even less popular than Biden was during the 1st year of his term. What happens to presidents as unpopular as Trump? They cause their party to lose big time in midterms and the next POTUS election.

If you don't understand these very basic facts that have been proven over and over recently, you're a complete idiot or just in denial.

You need to get out of the DCUM bubble. I bet you were "shocked" when he won both times because "everyone you know" wouldn’t vote for him. You’ll be "shocked" again when Vance wins. Like I said, not recognizing the popularity of Trump is a flaw of Democrats.

Trump earned his victory in 2016. He then fell on his face and LOST to an unfit and unlikable 77 year old in 2020. He then couldn't even secure 50% of the popular vote when gifted an easy election victory after the Dem incumbent fell on his face and backed out of the race just 3 months prior to Election Day.

Obama, Clinton, Reagan or any other reasonably popular candidate would have won in 2024 with 500 electoral votes and 70% of the popular vote. Why is it that Trump couldn't even garner 50% of the popular vote in this situation? Because he is, relative to the norm, a weak and unpopular politician.

Numbers don't lie. All I mention above happened! Just keep denying 2 + 2 = 4 and see where that gets you, idiot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Vance(?)/Trump vs. Buttigieg/Obama
Only “elected” twice still.
Although according to Donald’s truth he would have been elected POTUS 3 times. But the Constitution doesn’t matter anymore anyway

Vance is in an interracial marriage.

Vance has zero chance of ever having success running for POTUS. Just ask Harris, Pence, and Mondale what political life is like after being VP of one of our 3 most unpopular presidents ever.

Repeating it does not make it true. Trump is not "unpopular". Not recognizing that is a huge part of the problem with many Democrats.

Well, he isn't unpopular relative Bin Laden and Jeffrey Dahmer but otherwise he is as unpopular as he was during his 1st term and even less popular than Biden was during the 1st year of his term. What happens to presidents as unpopular as Trump? They cause their party to lose big time in midterms and the next POTUS election.

If you don't understand these very basic facts that have been proven over and over recently, you're a complete idiot or just in denial.

You need to get out of the DCUM bubble. I bet you were "shocked" when he won both times because "everyone you know" wouldn’t vote for him. You’ll be "shocked" again when Vance wins. Like I said, not recognizing the popularity of Trump is a flaw of Democrats.

Trump earned his victory in 2016. He then fell on his face and LOST to an unfit and unlikable 77 year old in 2020. He then couldn't even secure 50% of the popular vote when gifted an easy election victory after the Dem incumbent fell on his face and backed out of the race just 3 months prior to Election Day.

Obama, Clinton, Reagan or any other reasonably popular candidate would have won in 2024 with 500 electoral votes and 70% of the popular vote. Why is it that Trump couldn't even garner 50% of the popular vote in this situation? Because he is, relative to the norm, a weak and unpopular politician.

Numbers don't lie. All I mention above happened! Just keep denying 2 + 2 = 4 and see where that gets you, idiot.

You keep mentioning popular vote like it matters, and I’m the idiot? Popular vote has zero to do with who wins the election. You do know that right?

[Anonymous]

Gavin Newsom's 2028 Hopes Dim According to New Poll

A new poll, conducted by co/efficient between May 7 and May 9 among 1,462 likely voters, found that just 2 percent of voters see Newsom as the face of the Democratic Party. The poll had a margin of error of plus or minus 3.3 percentage points.


https://www.newsweek.com/gavin-newsom-2028-election-odds-poll-2072809

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Anonymous wrote:As PP mentioned, it will be Rubio, not JD Vance who you have to contend with in 2028. And no one mentioned in this thread is that strong vs Rubio, especially in states like AZ, VA, and GA. People in VA and GA do not like Trump because of his personality; his “tell it like it is” boorishness plays better in the Blue Wall, not in the more mannered South, especially in the suburbs. Rubio doesn’t have that problem. Pair him with someone like Tulsi, another relatively young POC who’s a woman with appeal to independents and type of people who vote D but like RFK Jr and listen to Rogan, and Rubio will be very tough to beat. Dems need to remember that they should run really fast away from whoever inside the Beltway pols are routing for because the rest of the country won’t like them.

You're forgetting one thing. Just like Vance, Pence, Harris, Mondale... Rubio is currently and will presumably still be working in the Administration of a very unpopular POTUS in 2028. History tells us, for those that care enough to pay attention, people associated with very unpopular presidents have zero chance of winning a POTUS election themselves; especially when that unpopular POTUS is the current sitting POTUS.

Even if you weren't aware of this history, it's basic common sense. Swing voters in swing states are always sold on the message of change. When the sitting POTUS has a 40% job approval rating, there is absolutely zero chance of enough of these swing voters in swing states jumping on board with someone associated with that POTUS based on their promise of "change". This is why Harris had zero chance of winning in 2024. This is why Vance's political career will be over in January 2029. This is why Pence's political career is over. This is why Mondale got beat 49 states to 1 in 1984.

None of this is rocket science. Think. Read.

Rubio isn't JD Vance. He may be Secretary of State now, but so far he has a separate identity from MAGA nutcases.

He will be a formidable candidate.

Democrats are all Trump, Trump, Trump right now - and doing very poorly in their opposition. And as always, they think they can run lame candidates like a Biden or Harris to beat a Trump redux bc everyone will want change.

But I do think a Rubio or a Haley absolutely destroys Democrats even after four years of Trump. So far, Democrats are offering nothing except an alternative to Trump, which didn't work well last time around. And they have no answer to a competent Republican nominee.

I mean who beats Rubio in Nevada, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia, and North Carolina?

It's very early, but I too think Pritzker is a strong candidate now. I think AOC is too young, but anyone that can get the Sanders movement going will have a solid chance. A movement candidate. But the people mentioned here - Shapiro, Whitmer, Beshear, Newsome - have no chance against Rubio in the swing states.

Rubio couldn't even look normal drinking some water. What do you think he offers anyone anymore? Turning his back on Cubans and Venezuelans and Afghanis? Stripping students of their visas and throwing them in jail because he didn't like an op-ed?

He's got no charisma, no backbone, and nothing to run on anymore. He can't even offer himself as turning the page on Trump - because he's right there, doing the worst things you can do at Trump's behest.

Haley would be a great gen pop candidate but she'll never make it through the Rs' ludicrous primary.

History and a little common sense tells us no one who is a member of the Trump Administration will have a chance in 2028. Just ask Harris, Mondale or Pence what it is like running for POTUS after you've been associated with very unpopular presidents. That association is never broken in the eyes of way too many voters.

Haley is an example of a potential GOP candidate who could possibly have a chance in 2028 due to her remaining detached from Trump for the most part. Still though, the odds of a GOP candidate winning in 2028 with a historically unpopular sitting GOP POTUS in office are next to nothing. The Dems will have to run someone even weaker than Biden in order for the GOP to have a chance in 2028 and I just don't see that happening.

Haley is another Harris, running on biography. And a warmonger to boot.

Yet Democrats have become the Party of endless wars. Why?

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Anonymous wrote:Vance(?)/Trump vs. Buttigieg/Obama
Only “elected” twice still.
Although according to Donald’s truth he would have been elected POTUS 3 times. But the Constitution doesn’t matter anymore anyway

Vance is in an interracial marriage.

Vance has zero chance of ever having success running for POTUS. Just ask Harris, Pence, and Mondale what political life is like after being VP of one of our 3 most unpopular presidents ever.

Repeating it does not make it true. Trump is not "unpopular". Not recognizing that is a huge part of the problem with many Democrats.

Well, he isn't unpopular relative Bin Laden and Jeffrey Dahmer but otherwise he is as unpopular as he was during his 1st term and even less popular than Biden was during the 1st year of his term. What happens to presidents as unpopular as Trump? They cause their party to lose big time in midterms and the next POTUS election.

If you don't understand these very basic facts that have been proven over and over recently, you're a complete idiot or just in denial.

You need to get out of the DCUM bubble. I bet you were "shocked" when he won both times because "everyone you know" wouldn’t vote for him. You’ll be "shocked" again when Vance wins. Like I said, not recognizing the popularity of Trump is a flaw of Democrats.

Trump earned his victory in 2016. He then fell on his face and LOST to an unfit and unlikable 77 year old in 2020. He then couldn't even secure 50% of the popular vote when gifted an easy election victory after the Dem incumbent fell on his face and backed out of the race just 3 months prior to Election Day.

Obama, Clinton, Reagan or any other reasonably popular candidate would have won in 2024 with 500 electoral votes and 70% of the popular vote. Why is it that Trump couldn't even garner 50% of the popular vote in this situation? Because he is, relative to the norm, a weak and unpopular politician.

Numbers don't lie. All I mention above happened! Just keep denying 2 + 2 = 4 and see where that gets you, idiot.

You keep mentioning popular vote like it matters, and I’m the idiot? Popular vote has zero to do with who wins the election. You do know that right?

What exactly is your point? Are you suggesting that Trump has magically changed his leopard spots and won't give the Dems easy election victories in 2026 & 2028 like he did in 2018 & 2020?

I hope you're right and he does magically transform into a reasonably popular president but as it stands, he is on the same trajectory as his first term. You have no substance that serves as a leg to stand on when suggesting his second term will evolve any differently than his first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The guy from CT

Murphy

Yes