Harvard tell Trump to pound sand

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More than a dozen pro-Palestinian Harvard students filed a civil rights complaint with the Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights in January, alleging the university had failed to protect them from harassment, threats and assault.

Of course, Trump doesn't care about their rights.

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Anonymous wrote:Current student at Harvard and I don't approve. Harvard has to comply with civil rights laws. I have to comply with them, you have to comply, employers have to comply, and universities have to comply too.

How is this a violation of civil rights laws?

Have you read the letter from the administration? A quick summary: Harvard must immediately begin choosing applicants based on merit and not based on race, sex, etc. Harvard must discipline the students who participated in the hate crime of assaulting Jewish students in 2023. Harvard must stop including antisemitic texts or materials in its curriculum.

All of these are civil rights issues. Let's play a game. If it had been white supremacists beating black students, would that be a civil rights issue? If the request was to stop teaching materials racist against black people, would that not be a civil rights issue? And re admissions, either you believe in merit based evaluations or you believe in giving advantages to certain races. SCOTUS has been very clear that choosing based on race is a civil rights violation.

That's a very fancy way of saying the government can require all people to be nice to Jews under penalty of whatever. If that is the government you wish for, please exercise your right of return.

That’s literally the whole point of civil rights legislation.

Black people can eat at the diner counter and Jewish students can walk across the campus without being harassed.

+1

😂😂😂 +1, indeed

PP wants to equate (A) centuries of slavery, lynching, systemic violence and mistreatment, violations of civil rights under color of law, vigilante racism, etc. with (B) college students who are uncomfortable hearing or seeing criticisms about a foreign country - a country whose policies and actions, mind you, have been condemned over and over again by essentially the entire planet.

I guess we have to suspend disbelief and listen to dipshits tell us that words hurt more than white phosphorus bombs dropped on churches and shelters. Oh, the feelings of it all …

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Anonymous wrote:Current student at Harvard and I don't approve. Harvard has to comply with civil rights laws. I have to comply with them, you have to comply, employers have to comply, and universities have to comply too.

How is this a violation of civil rights laws?

Have you read the letter from the administration? A quick summary: Harvard must immediately begin choosing applicants based on merit and not based on race, sex, etc. Harvard must discipline the students who participated in the hate crime of assaulting Jewish students in 2023. Harvard must stop including antisemitic texts or materials in its curriculum.

All of these are civil rights issues. Let's play a game. If it had been white supremacists beating black students, would that be a civil rights issue? If the request was to stop teaching materials racist against black people, would that not be a civil rights issue? And re admissions, either you believe in merit based evaluations or you believe in giving advantages to certain races. SCOTUS has been very clear that choosing based on race is a civil rights violation.

That's a very fancy way of saying the government can require all people to be nice to Jews under penalty of whatever. If that is the government you wish for, please exercise your right of return.

That’s literally the whole point of civil rights legislation.

Black people can eat at the diner counter and Jewish students can walk across the campus without being harassed.

+1

😂😂😂 +1, indeed

PP wants to equate (A) centuries of slavery, lynching, systemic violence and mistreatment, violations of civil rights under color of law, vigilante racism, etc. with (B) college students who are uncomfortable hearing or seeing criticisms about a foreign country - a country whose policies and actions, mind you, have been condemned over and over again by essentially the entire planet.

I guess we have to suspend disbelief and listen to dipshits tell us that words hurt more than white phosphorus bombs dropped on churches and shelters. Oh, the feelings of it all …

So you don't believe Jews should be protected. We get it. We disagree.

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Anonymous wrote:Current student at Harvard and I don't approve. Harvard has to comply with civil rights laws. I have to comply with them, you have to comply, employers have to comply, and universities have to comply too.

How is this a violation of civil rights laws?

Have you read the letter from the administration? A quick summary: Harvard must immediately begin choosing applicants based on merit and not based on race, sex, etc. Harvard must discipline the students who participated in the hate crime of assaulting Jewish students in 2023. Harvard must stop including antisemitic texts or materials in its curriculum.

All of these are civil rights issues. Let's play a game. If it had been white supremacists beating black students, would that be a civil rights issue? If the request was to stop teaching materials racist against black people, would that not be a civil rights issue? And re admissions, either you believe in merit based evaluations or you believe in giving advantages to certain races. SCOTUS has been very clear that choosing based on race is a civil rights violation.

That's a very fancy way of saying the government can require all people to be nice to Jews under penalty of whatever. If that is the government you wish for, please exercise your right of return.

That’s literally the whole point of civil rights legislation.

Black people can eat at the diner counter and Jewish students can walk across the campus without being harassed.

+1

😂😂😂 +1, indeed

PP wants to equate (A) centuries of slavery, lynching, systemic violence and mistreatment, violations of civil rights under color of law, vigilante racism, etc. with (B) college students who are uncomfortable hearing or seeing criticisms about a foreign country - a country whose policies and actions, mind you, have been condemned over and over again by essentially the entire planet.

I guess we have to suspend disbelief and listen to dipshits tell us that words hurt more than white phosphorus bombs dropped on churches and shelters. Oh, the feelings of it all …

So you don't believe Jews should be protected. We get it. We disagree.

Strawman, nice try though

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Anonymous wrote:Current student at Harvard and I don't approve. Harvard has to comply with civil rights laws. I have to comply with them, you have to comply, employers have to comply, and universities have to comply too.

How is this a violation of civil rights laws?

Have you read the letter from the administration? A quick summary: Harvard must immediately begin choosing applicants based on merit and not based on race, sex, etc. Harvard must discipline the students who participated in the hate crime of assaulting Jewish students in 2023. Harvard must stop including antisemitic texts or materials in its curriculum.

All of these are civil rights issues. Let's play a game. If it had been white supremacists beating black students, would that be a civil rights issue? If the request was to stop teaching materials racist against black people, would that not be a civil rights issue? And re admissions, either you believe in merit based evaluations or you believe in giving advantages to certain races. SCOTUS has been very clear that choosing based on race is a civil rights violation.

That's a very fancy way of saying the government can require all people to be nice to Jews under penalty of whatever. If that is the government you wish for, please exercise your right of return.

That’s literally the whole point of civil rights legislation.

Black people can eat at the diner counter and Jewish students can walk across the campus without being harassed.

+1

😂😂😂 +1, indeed

PP wants to equate (A) centuries of slavery, lynching, systemic violence and mistreatment, violations of civil rights under color of law, vigilante racism, etc. with (B) college students who are uncomfortable hearing or seeing criticisms about a foreign country - a country whose policies and actions, mind you, have been condemned over and over again by essentially the entire planet.

I guess we have to suspend disbelief and listen to dipshits tell us that words hurt more than white phosphorus bombs dropped on churches and shelters. Oh, the feelings of it all …

So you don't believe Jews should be protected. We get it. We disagree.

Wrong. I believe in equal rights for all, including Jewish Americans.

But what are you referring to
… protected from what? From having to see or hear criticisms of Israel, a foreign nation scorned by the entire planet for its policies and actions? Yeah, you can F right the F off if that’s what you’re arguing they “should be protected” from. Nobody has a right to silence others.

Now it’s your turn - cite where Jewish American college students these past two years have faced mistreatment in the same universe of what African Americans and others (Arab Americans, Asian Americans, women, LGBTQ, etc.) have faced here in America for centuries … or just point me to where Jewish American students were attacked these past two years like the anti-war protestors were attacked by pro-Israel terrorists out on the West Coast last spring. Just one example will suffice … we’ll wait.

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Anonymous wrote:Current student at Harvard and I don't approve. Harvard has to comply with civil rights laws. I have to comply with them, you have to comply, employers have to comply, and universities have to comply too.

How is this a violation of civil rights laws?

Have you read the letter from the administration? A quick summary: Harvard must immediately begin choosing applicants based on merit and not based on race, sex, etc. Harvard must discipline the students who participated in the hate crime of assaulting Jewish students in 2023. Harvard must stop including antisemitic texts or materials in its curriculum.

All of these are civil rights issues. Let's play a game. If it had been white supremacists beating black students, would that be a civil rights issue? If the request was to stop teaching materials racist against black people, would that not be a civil rights issue? And re admissions, either you believe in merit based evaluations or you believe in giving advantages to certain races. SCOTUS has been very clear that choosing based on race is a civil rights violation.

That's a very fancy way of saying the government can require all people to be nice to Jews under penalty of whatever. If that is the government you wish for, please exercise your right of return.

That’s literally the whole point of civil rights legislation.

Black people can eat at the diner counter and Jewish students can walk across the campus without being harassed.

+1

😂😂😂 +1, indeed

PP wants to equate (A) centuries of slavery, lynching, systemic violence and mistreatment, violations of civil rights under color of law, vigilante racism, etc. with (B) college students who are uncomfortable hearing or seeing criticisms about a foreign country - a country whose policies and actions, mind you, have been condemned over and over again by essentially the entire planet.

I guess we have to suspend disbelief and listen to dipshits tell us that words hurt more than white phosphorus bombs dropped on churches and shelters. Oh, the feelings of it all …

So you don't believe Jews should be protected. We get it. We disagree.

Wrong. I believe in equal rights for all, including Jewish Americans.

But what are you referring to
… protected from what? From having to see or hear criticisms of Israel, a foreign nation scorned by the entire planet for its policies and actions? Yeah, you can F right the F off if that’s what you’re arguing they “should be protected” from. Nobody has a right to silence others.

Now it’s your turn - cite where Jewish American college students these past two years have faced mistreatment in the same universe of what African Americans and others (Arab Americans, Asian Americans, women, LGBTQ, etc.) have faced here in America for centuries … or just point me to where Jewish American students were attacked these past two years like the anti-war protestors were attacked by pro-Israel terrorists out on the West Coast last spring. Just one example will suffice … we’ll wait.

DP. If you believe in equal rights for all, why are you comparing the suffering of different Americans? You either believe everyone should be protected, or you don't. If you do, then you should be the first one calling for Harvard and other schools to protect their rights. But you're not. Instead, you're trying to minimize their suffering.

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Anonymous wrote:Current student at Harvard and I don't approve. Harvard has to comply with civil rights laws. I have to comply with them, you have to comply, employers have to comply, and universities have to comply too.

How is this a violation of civil rights laws?

Have you read the letter from the administration? A quick summary: Harvard must immediately begin choosing applicants based on merit and not based on race, sex, etc. Harvard must discipline the students who participated in the hate crime of assaulting Jewish students in 2023. Harvard must stop including antisemitic texts or materials in its curriculum.

All of these are civil rights issues. Let's play a game. If it had been white supremacists beating black students, would that be a civil rights issue? If the request was to stop teaching materials racist against black people, would that not be a civil rights issue? And re admissions, either you believe in merit based evaluations or you believe in giving advantages to certain races. SCOTUS has been very clear that choosing based on race is a civil rights violation.

That's a very fancy way of saying the government can require all people to be nice to Jews under penalty of whatever. If that is the government you wish for, please exercise your right of return.

That’s literally the whole point of civil rights legislation.

Black people can eat at the diner counter and Jewish students can walk across the campus without being harassed.

+1

😂😂😂 +1, indeed

PP wants to equate (A) centuries of slavery, lynching, systemic violence and mistreatment, violations of civil rights under color of law, vigilante racism, etc. with (B) college students who are uncomfortable hearing or seeing criticisms about a foreign country - a country whose policies and actions, mind you, have been condemned over and over again by essentially the entire planet.

I guess we have to suspend disbelief and listen to dipshits tell us that words hurt more than white phosphorus bombs dropped on churches and shelters. Oh, the feelings of it all …

So you don't believe Jews should be protected. We get it. We disagree.

Wrong. I believe in equal rights for all, including Jewish Americans.

But what are you referring to
… protected from what? From having to see or hear criticisms of Israel, a foreign nation scorned by the entire planet for its policies and actions? Yeah, you can F right the F off if that’s what you’re arguing they “should be protected” from. Nobody has a right to silence others.

Now it’s your turn - cite where Jewish American college students these past two years have faced mistreatment in the same universe of what African Americans and others (Arab Americans, Asian Americans, women, LGBTQ, etc.) have faced here in America for centuries … or just point me to where Jewish American students were attacked these past two years like the anti-war protestors were attacked by pro-Israel terrorists out on the West Coast last spring. Just one example will suffice … we’ll wait.

DP. If you believe in equal rights for all, why are you comparing the suffering of different Americans? You either believe everyone should be protected, or you don't. If you do, then you should be the first one calling for Harvard and other schools to protect their rights. But you're not. Instead, you're trying to minimize their suffering.

If you think we need the federal government attacking a private academic institution, trying to blackmail them into creating two classes of students, and threatening to weaponize the IRS to revoke their nonprofit status in response to 100% lawful assembly and 100% lawful speech (both protected under our constitution), you are a clear enemy of the state and should be treated as such.

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Anonymous wrote:Current student at Harvard and I don't approve. Harvard has to comply with civil rights laws. I have to comply with them, you have to comply, employers have to comply, and universities have to comply too.

How is this a violation of civil rights laws?

Have you read the letter from the administration? A quick summary: Harvard must immediately begin choosing applicants based on merit and not based on race, sex, etc. Harvard must discipline the students who participated in the hate crime of assaulting Jewish students in 2023. Harvard must stop including antisemitic texts or materials in its curriculum.

All of these are civil rights issues. Let's play a game. If it had been white supremacists beating black students, would that be a civil rights issue? If the request was to stop teaching materials racist against black people, would that not be a civil rights issue? And re admissions, either you believe in merit based evaluations or you believe in giving advantages to certain races. SCOTUS has been very clear that choosing based on race is a civil rights violation.

That's a very fancy way of saying the government can require all people to be nice to Jews under penalty of whatever. If that is the government you wish for, please exercise your right of return.

That’s literally the whole point of civil rights legislation.

Black people can eat at the diner counter and Jewish students can walk across the campus without being harassed.

+1

😂😂😂 +1, indeed

PP wants to equate (A) centuries of slavery, lynching, systemic violence and mistreatment, violations of civil rights under color of law, vigilante racism, etc. with (B) college students who are uncomfortable hearing or seeing criticisms about a foreign country - a country whose policies and actions, mind you, have been condemned over and over again by essentially the entire planet.

I guess we have to suspend disbelief and listen to dipshits tell us that words hurt more than white phosphorus bombs dropped on churches and shelters. Oh, the feelings of it all …

So you don't believe Jews should be protected. We get it. We disagree.

Wrong. I believe in equal rights for all, including Jewish Americans.

But what are you referring to
… protected from what? From having to see or hear criticisms of Israel, a foreign nation scorned by the entire planet for its policies and actions? Yeah, you can F right the F off if that’s what you’re arguing they “should be protected” from. Nobody has a right to silence others.

Now it’s your turn - cite where Jewish American college students these past two years have faced mistreatment in the same universe of what African Americans and others (Arab Americans, Asian Americans, women, LGBTQ, etc.) have faced here in America for centuries … or just point me to where Jewish American students were attacked these past two years like the anti-war protestors were attacked by pro-Israel terrorists out on the West Coast last spring. Just one example will suffice … we’ll wait.

DP. If you believe in equal rights for all, why are you comparing the suffering of different Americans? You either believe everyone should be protected, or you don't. If you do, then you should be the first one calling for Harvard and other schools to protect their rights. But you're not. Instead, you're trying to minimize their suffering.

If protecting all civil rights was the goal than it wouldn’t be focused on antisemitism and specific schools would not be singled out as I guarantee all schools have faced issues. Further, what is needed to resolve the issue wouldn’t be targeting certain topics of study.

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Anonymous wrote:Current student at Harvard and I don't approve. Harvard has to comply with civil rights laws. I have to comply with them, you have to comply, employers have to comply, and universities have to comply too.

How is this a violation of civil rights laws?

Have you read the letter from the administration? A quick summary: Harvard must immediately begin choosing applicants based on merit and not based on race, sex, etc. Harvard must discipline the students who participated in the hate crime of assaulting Jewish students in 2023. Harvard must stop including antisemitic texts or materials in its curriculum.

All of these are civil rights issues. Let's play a game. If it had been white supremacists beating black students, would that be a civil rights issue? If the request was to stop teaching materials racist against black people, would that not be a civil rights issue? And re admissions, either you believe in merit based evaluations or you believe in giving advantages to certain races. SCOTUS has been very clear that choosing based on race is a civil rights violation.

That's a very fancy way of saying the government can require all people to be nice to Jews under penalty of whatever. If that is the government you wish for, please exercise your right of return.

That’s literally the whole point of civil rights legislation.

Black people can eat at the diner counter and Jewish students can walk across the campus without being harassed.

+1

😂😂😂 +1, indeed

PP wants to equate (A) centuries of slavery, lynching, systemic violence and mistreatment, violations of civil rights under color of law, vigilante racism, etc. with (B) college students who are uncomfortable hearing or seeing criticisms about a foreign country - a country whose policies and actions, mind you, have been condemned over and over again by essentially the entire planet.

I guess we have to suspend disbelief and listen to dipshits tell us that words hurt more than white phosphorus bombs dropped on churches and shelters. Oh, the feelings of it all …

So you don't believe Jews should be protected. We get it. We disagree.

Wrong. I believe in equal rights for all, including Jewish Americans.

But what are you referring to
… protected from what? From having to see or hear criticisms of Israel, a foreign nation scorned by the entire planet for its policies and actions? Yeah, you can F right the F off if that’s what you’re arguing they “should be protected” from. Nobody has a right to silence others.

Now it’s your turn - cite where Jewish American college students these past two years have faced mistreatment in the same universe of what African Americans and others (Arab Americans, Asian Americans, women, LGBTQ, etc.) have faced here in America for centuries … or just point me to where Jewish American students were attacked these past two years like the anti-war protestors were attacked by pro-Israel terrorists out on the West Coast last spring. Just one example will suffice … we’ll wait.

This isnt the topic. The topic was whether it was proper and reasonable for Harvard to refuse to comply with civil rights laws as demanded in the letter from the administration. If they were already protecting Jewish students, already selecting candidates based on merit, and already screening out candidates with terrorist sympathies, there wouldn't be a conflict.

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Anonymous wrote:Current student at Harvard and I don't approve. Harvard has to comply with civil rights laws. I have to comply with them, you have to comply, employers have to comply, and universities have to comply too.

How is this a violation of civil rights laws?

Have you read the letter from the administration? A quick summary: Harvard must immediately begin choosing applicants based on merit and not based on race, sex, etc. Harvard must discipline the students who participated in the hate crime of assaulting Jewish students in 2023. Harvard must stop including antisemitic texts or materials in its curriculum.

All of these are civil rights issues. Let's play a game. If it had been white supremacists beating black students, would that be a civil rights issue? If the request was to stop teaching materials racist against black people, would that not be a civil rights issue? And re admissions, either you believe in merit based evaluations or you believe in giving advantages to certain races. SCOTUS has been very clear that choosing based on race is a civil rights violation.

That's a very fancy way of saying the government can require all people to be nice to Jews under penalty of whatever. If that is the government you wish for, please exercise your right of return.

That’s literally the whole point of civil rights legislation.

Black people can eat at the diner counter and Jewish students can walk across the campus without being harassed.

+1

😂😂😂 +1, indeed

PP wants to equate (A) centuries of slavery, lynching, systemic violence and mistreatment, violations of civil rights under color of law, vigilante racism, etc. with (B) college students who are uncomfortable hearing or seeing criticisms about a foreign country - a country whose policies and actions, mind you, have been condemned over and over again by essentially the entire planet.

I guess we have to suspend disbelief and listen to dipshits tell us that words hurt more than white phosphorus bombs dropped on churches and shelters. Oh, the feelings of it all …

So you don't believe Jews should be protected. We get it. We disagree.

Wrong. I believe in equal rights for all, including Jewish Americans.

But what are you referring to
… protected from what? From having to see or hear criticisms of Israel, a foreign nation scorned by the entire planet for its policies and actions? Yeah, you can F right the F off if that’s what you’re arguing they “should be protected” from. Nobody has a right to silence others.

Now it’s your turn - cite where Jewish American college students these past two years have faced mistreatment in the same universe of what African Americans and others (Arab Americans, Asian Americans, women, LGBTQ, etc.) have faced here in America for centuries … or just point me to where Jewish American students were attacked these past two years like the anti-war protestors were attacked by pro-Israel terrorists out on the West Coast last spring. Just one example will suffice … we’ll wait.

DP. If you believe in equal rights for all, why are you comparing the suffering of different Americans? You either believe everyone should be protected, or you don't. If you do, then you should be the first one calling for Harvard and other schools to protect their rights. But you're not. Instead, you're trying to minimize their suffering.

If protecting all civil rights was the goal than it wouldn’t be focused on antisemitism and specific schools would not be singled out as I guarantee all schools have faced issues. Further, what is needed to resolve the issue wouldn’t be targeting certain topics of study.

Please cite where they are targeting topics of study.

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Anonymous wrote:Current student at Harvard and I don't approve. Harvard has to comply with civil rights laws. I have to comply with them, you have to comply, employers have to comply, and universities have to comply too.

How is this a violation of civil rights laws?

Have you read the letter from the administration? A quick summary: Harvard must immediately begin choosing applicants based on merit and not based on race, sex, etc. Harvard must discipline the students who participated in the hate crime of assaulting Jewish students in 2023. Harvard must stop including antisemitic texts or materials in its curriculum.

All of these are civil rights issues. Let's play a game. If it had been white supremacists beating black students, would that be a civil rights issue? If the request was to stop teaching materials racist against black people, would that not be a civil rights issue? And re admissions, either you believe in merit based evaluations or you believe in giving advantages to certain races. SCOTUS has been very clear that choosing based on race is a civil rights violation.

That's a very fancy way of saying the government can require all people to be nice to Jews under penalty of whatever. If that is the government you wish for, please exercise your right of return.

That’s literally the whole point of civil rights legislation.

Black people can eat at the diner counter and Jewish students can walk across the campus without being harassed.

+1

😂😂😂 +1, indeed

PP wants to equate (A) centuries of slavery, lynching, systemic violence and mistreatment, violations of civil rights under color of law, vigilante racism, etc. with (B) college students who are uncomfortable hearing or seeing criticisms about a foreign country - a country whose policies and actions, mind you, have been condemned over and over again by essentially the entire planet.

I guess we have to suspend disbelief and listen to dipshits tell us that words hurt more than white phosphorus bombs dropped on churches and shelters. Oh, the feelings of it all …

So you don't believe Jews should be protected. We get it. We disagree.

Strawman, nice try though

Tell me how it's wrong. When I read your posts, I come away with the strong impression that you're perfectly fine with discrimination and hate crimes as long as its Jews, Asians, etc being harmed.

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Anonymous wrote:Current student at Harvard and I don't approve. Harvard has to comply with civil rights laws. I have to comply with them, you have to comply, employers have to comply, and universities have to comply too.

How is this a violation of civil rights laws?

Have you read the letter from the administration? A quick summary: Harvard must immediately begin choosing applicants based on merit and not based on race, sex, etc. Harvard must discipline the students who participated in the hate crime of assaulting Jewish students in 2023. Harvard must stop including antisemitic texts or materials in its curriculum.

All of these are civil rights issues. Let's play a game. If it had been white supremacists beating black students, would that be a civil rights issue? If the request was to stop teaching materials racist against black people, would that not be a civil rights issue? And re admissions, either you believe in merit based evaluations or you believe in giving advantages to certain races. SCOTUS has been very clear that choosing based on race is a civil rights violation.

That's a very fancy way of saying the government can require all people to be nice to Jews under penalty of whatever. If that is the government you wish for, please exercise your right of return.

That’s literally the whole point of civil rights legislation.

Black people can eat at the diner counter and Jewish students can walk across the campus without being harassed.

+1

😂😂😂 +1, indeed

PP wants to equate (A) centuries of slavery, lynching, systemic violence and mistreatment, violations of civil rights under color of law, vigilante racism, etc. with (B) college students who are uncomfortable hearing or seeing criticisms about a foreign country - a country whose policies and actions, mind you, have been condemned over and over again by essentially the entire planet.

I guess we have to suspend disbelief and listen to dipshits tell us that words hurt more than white phosphorus bombs dropped on churches and shelters. Oh, the feelings of it all …

So you don't believe Jews should be protected. We get it. We disagree.

Wrong. I believe in equal rights for all, including Jewish Americans.

But what are you referring to
… protected from what? From having to see or hear criticisms of Israel, a foreign nation scorned by the entire planet for its policies and actions? Yeah, you can F right the F off if that’s what you’re arguing they “should be protected” from. Nobody has a right to silence others.

Now it’s your turn - cite where Jewish American college students these past two years have faced mistreatment in the same universe of what African Americans and others (Arab Americans, Asian Americans, women, LGBTQ, etc.) have faced here in America for centuries … or just point me to where Jewish American students were attacked these past two years like the anti-war protestors were attacked by pro-Israel terrorists out on the West Coast last spring. Just one example will suffice … we’ll wait.

DP. If you believe in equal rights for all, why are you comparing the suffering of different Americans? You either believe everyone should be protected, or you don't. If you do, then you should be the first one calling for Harvard and other schools to protect their rights. But you're not. Instead, you're trying to minimize their suffering.

If protecting all civil rights was the goal than it wouldn’t be focused on antisemitism and specific schools would not be singled out as I guarantee all schools have faced issues. Further, what is needed to resolve the issue wouldn’t be targeting certain topics of study.

It's called executive (or prosecutorial) discretion. The DOJ has done so under many Democratic presidents. As for certain topics of study being targeted, please provide examples.

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Anonymous wrote:Current student at Harvard and I don't approve. Harvard has to comply with civil rights laws. I have to comply with them, you have to comply, employers have to comply, and universities have to comply too.

How is this a violation of civil rights laws?

Have you read the letter from the administration? A quick summary: Harvard must immediately begin choosing applicants based on merit and not based on race, sex, etc. Harvard must discipline the students who participated in the hate crime of assaulting Jewish students in 2023. Harvard must stop including antisemitic texts or materials in its curriculum.

All of these are civil rights issues. Let's play a game. If it had been white supremacists beating black students, would that be a civil rights issue? If the request was to stop teaching materials racist against black people, would that not be a civil rights issue? And re admissions, either you believe in merit based evaluations or you believe in giving advantages to certain races. SCOTUS has been very clear that choosing based on race is a civil rights violation.

That's a very fancy way of saying the government can require all people to be nice to Jews under penalty of whatever. If that is the government you wish for, please exercise your right of return.

That’s literally the whole point of civil rights legislation.

Black people can eat at the diner counter and Jewish students can walk across the campus without being harassed.

+1

😂😂😂 +1, indeed

PP wants to equate (A) centuries of slavery, lynching, systemic violence and mistreatment, violations of civil rights under color of law, vigilante racism, etc. with (B) college students who are uncomfortable hearing or seeing criticisms about a foreign country - a country whose policies and actions, mind you, have been condemned over and over again by essentially the entire planet.

I guess we have to suspend disbelief and listen to dipshits tell us that words hurt more than white phosphorus bombs dropped on churches and shelters. Oh, the feelings of it all …

So you don't believe Jews should be protected. We get it. We disagree.

Wrong. I believe in equal rights for all, including Jewish Americans.

But what are you referring to
… protected from what? From having to see or hear criticisms of Israel, a foreign nation scorned by the entire planet for its policies and actions? Yeah, you can F right the F off if that’s what you’re arguing they “should be protected” from. Nobody has a right to silence others.

Now it’s your turn - cite where Jewish American college students these past two years have faced mistreatment in the same universe of what African Americans and others (Arab Americans, Asian Americans, women, LGBTQ, etc.) have faced here in America for centuries … or just point me to where Jewish American students were attacked these past two years like the anti-war protestors were attacked by pro-Israel terrorists out on the West Coast last spring. Just one example will suffice … we’ll wait.

DP. If you believe in equal rights for all, why are you comparing the suffering of different Americans? You either believe everyone should be protected, or you don't. If you do, then you should be the first one calling for Harvard and other schools to protect their rights. But you're not. Instead, you're trying to minimize their suffering.

If protecting all civil rights was the goal than it wouldn’t be focused on antisemitism and specific schools would not be singled out as I guarantee all schools have faced issues. Further, what is needed to resolve the issue wouldn’t be targeting certain topics of study.

It's called executive (or prosecutorial) discretion. The DOJ has done so under many Democratic presidents. As for certain topics of study being targeted, please provide examples.

The administration does not have the legal right to make any of those demands they listed in the letter. You are also confusing government agencies or or didn’t actually read the demand letter. The letter to Harvard was signed by the Department of Education, HHS and GSA. The DOJ did not sign the letter.

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Anonymous wrote:Current student at Harvard and I don't approve. Harvard has to comply with civil rights laws. I have to comply with them, you have to comply, employers have to comply, and universities have to comply too.

How is this a violation of civil rights laws?

Have you read the letter from the administration? A quick summary: Harvard must immediately begin choosing applicants based on merit and not based on race, sex, etc. Harvard must discipline the students who participated in the hate crime of assaulting Jewish students in 2023. Harvard must stop including antisemitic texts or materials in its curriculum.

All of these are civil rights issues. Let's play a game. If it had been white supremacists beating black students, would that be a civil rights issue? If the request was to stop teaching materials racist against black people, would that not be a civil rights issue? And re admissions, either you believe in merit based evaluations or you believe in giving advantages to certain races. SCOTUS has been very clear that choosing based on race is a civil rights violation.

That's a very fancy way of saying the government can require all people to be nice to Jews under penalty of whatever. If that is the government you wish for, please exercise your right of return.

That’s literally the whole point of civil rights legislation.

Black people can eat at the diner counter and Jewish students can walk across the campus without being harassed.

+1

😂😂😂 +1, indeed

PP wants to equate (A) centuries of slavery, lynching, systemic violence and mistreatment, violations of civil rights under color of law, vigilante racism, etc. with (B) college students who are uncomfortable hearing or seeing criticisms about a foreign country - a country whose policies and actions, mind you, have been condemned over and over again by essentially the entire planet.

I guess we have to suspend disbelief and listen to dipshits tell us that words hurt more than white phosphorus bombs dropped on churches and shelters. Oh, the feelings of it all …

So you don't believe Jews should be protected. We get it. We disagree.

Wrong. I believe in equal rights for all, including Jewish Americans.

But what are you referring to
… protected from what? From having to see or hear criticisms of Israel, a foreign nation scorned by the entire planet for its policies and actions? Yeah, you can F right the F off if that’s what you’re arguing they “should be protected” from. Nobody has a right to silence others.

Now it’s your turn - cite where Jewish American college students these past two years have faced mistreatment in the same universe of what African Americans and others (Arab Americans, Asian Americans, women, LGBTQ, etc.) have faced here in America for centuries … or just point me to where Jewish American students were attacked these past two years like the anti-war protestors were attacked by pro-Israel terrorists out on the West Coast last spring. Just one example will suffice … we’ll wait.

DP. If you believe in equal rights for all, why are you comparing the suffering of different Americans? You either believe everyone should be protected, or you don't. If you do, then you should be the first one calling for Harvard and other schools to protect their rights. But you're not. Instead, you're trying to minimize their suffering.

If protecting all civil rights was the goal than it wouldn’t be focused on antisemitism and specific schools would not be singled out as I guarantee all schools have faced issues. Further, what is needed to resolve the issue wouldn’t be targeting certain topics of study.

It's called executive (or prosecutorial) discretion. The DOJ has done so under many Democratic presidents. As for certain topics of study being targeted, please provide examples.

The administration does not have the legal right to make any of those demands they listed in the letter. You are also confusing government agencies or or didn’t actually read the demand letter. The letter to Harvard was signed by the Department of Education, HHS and GSA. The DOJ did not sign the letter.

What part of "executive discretion" did you not understand. DOJ was cited d as an example. The administration clearly thinks Harvard's actions are unlawful (and egregious) and has decided to make an example of it for other universities. Are you saying it can't do that? What happened to letting the courts decide?