Trump admin ADMITS wrongful deportation

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is literally the case; I do not care about it, nor should anyone else. I don't think it was a mistake; it might have been an "error," but come on, this is an MS-13 member. Not a kindergartner who ended up in prison in El Salvador. He is where he belongs.

He was afraid of his own government and of his gang. Why are we allowing protected status to horrible gang members who leave dead bodies of innocents to show their power?
Many Salvadorans are pleased with their president and how he is making going to the grocery store less stressful, rather than Squid Games.
I call this a good error for us.

Okay, but you are in the minority. Those in your echo chamber may agree with you but outside of that, Americans do not.

I don't have an echo chamber. These are my own thoughts.

Apparently, most Americans are ok with the round ups…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/21/trump-deportations-judges-migrants/

[Anonymous]

The easy ruling for the Judge if the man is not in the US by midnight is to find the Dept of Justice to be in violation of the ruling, and set a contempt hearing for Tuesday morning requiring Bondi to personally appear. Have the hearing and place Bondi in federal custody until the man is returned to the US.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The easy ruling for the Judge if the man is not in the US by midnight is to find the Dept of Justice to be in violation of the ruling, and set a contempt hearing for Tuesday morning requiring Bondi to personally appear. Have the hearing and place Bondi in federal custody until the man is returned to the US.

Yeah, they can't have the DOJ attorneys of record appear since they're suspended/half-fired. And DOJ already knows what they'll say...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is literally the case; I do not care about it, nor should anyone else. I don't think it was a mistake; it might have been an "error," but come on, this is an MS-13 member. Not a kindergartner who ended up in prison in El Salvador. He is where he belongs.

He was afraid of his own government and of his gang. Why are we allowing protected status to horrible gang members who leave dead bodies of innocents to show their power?
Many Salvadorans are pleased with their president and how he is making going to the grocery store less stressful, rather than Squid Games.
I call this a good error for us.

Okay, but you are in the minority. Those in your echo chamber may agree with you but outside of that, Americans do not.

I don't have an echo chamber. These are my own thoughts.

Apparently, most Americans are ok with the round ups…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/21/trump-deportations-judges-migrants/

“A Washington Post-Ipsos poll in February found 89 percent support for deporting undocumented immigrants accused of violent crimes, while 62 percent said the same for those accused of nonviolent crimes such as shoplifting.”

Does the poll ask about people who have committed no crimes? And does it ask whether rendering them to a prison is OK rather than just deporting them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is literally the case; I do not care about it, nor should anyone else. I don't think it was a mistake; it might have been an "error," but come on, this is an MS-13 member. Not a kindergartner who ended up in prison in El Salvador. He is where he belongs.

He was afraid of his own government and of his gang. Why are we allowing protected status to horrible gang members who leave dead bodies of innocents to show their power?
Many Salvadorans are pleased with their president and how he is making going to the grocery store less stressful, rather than Squid Games.
I call this a good error for us.

Okay, but you are in the minority. Those in your echo chamber may agree with you but outside of that, Americans do not.

I don't have an echo chamber. These are my own thoughts.

Apparently, most Americans are ok with the round ups…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/21/trump-deportations-judges-migrants/

“A Washington Post-Ipsos poll in February found 89 percent support for deporting undocumented immigrants accused of violent crimes, while 62 percent said the same for those accused of nonviolent crimes such as shoplifting.”

Does the poll ask about people who have committed no crimes? And does it ask whether rendering them to a prison is OK rather than just deporting them?

American opinions have changed a lot since the quaint faraway times of February...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is the Supreme Court going to do?

It's such a toughie. Require constitutional due process or find a way to avoid confrontation and allow Trump's admin to slide past it.

Are we a lawless country because we fear Donald Trump? Or are we a nation of laws?

Alternate theory: is it we are afraid of Trump or are we afraid of what comes next if he defies the Supreme Court? At that point we are in unknown territory

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/

Why did you Democrats create this open border sh*t show?

It turns out, governing is hard. MAGA is experiencing this but blaming Biden for it rather than turning their brains on and realizing that this is a large country with big issues and lots of laws to deal with lots of situations.

Ignoring all of it and saying "Deport 100 people, don't bother me with details about who they are or whether they are removable!" leads to disasters. As we see now.

DP. Problem is, it is a disaster but really only affecting a few people who are the deportee and their family members.
A few of these mistakes, maybe even a few hundred of these mistakes, are but a grain of sand in the Sahara, in comparison to the number of people who have been stopped from coming in at the border and/or lawfully deported.
Unfortunate but I do think the majority are ok with this as the cost of getting things done.

This is not the cost of getting things done if you expect competence. Do you? The mistake we have seen in the last three months are ASTONISHING. The lack of accountability is SHOCKING. Why do you accept such incompetence from our elected officials????

Because I know how extremely complex things are, and our systems work most of the time, but nothing can be perfect.
We accept those kinds of risks all the time. We drive on roads knowing there’s a small chance of getting into a fatal accident. We get medical treatments knowing there’s a small chance of something going wrong. But we don’t stay at home and do nothing because those risks exist.

Activists would have us believe we shouldn’t do any immigration enforcement because mistakes can happen, but pragmatists recognize that can’t be a reason to stay home and do nothing.

Removing people to the country that they have withholding of removal from due to the Convention Against Torture is a result of an unlawful use of the AEA. Why? For optics, not for any real reason.

We are a law-abiding country, Americans obey laws and court orders. Our government does not get a pass for willfully disobeying both.

Deport the bad guys, make sure you know which is which before doing anything. When you make a mistake, you fix it, you don't fire your lawyer. Because that's optics too, but not the kind you want.

Did they willfully disobey? This was an administrative error.

The administrative error occurred on March 15 when they put him on the plane.
But on March 12 they unlawfully arrested him. It's in the 4th circuit order.
The claimed administrative error was that the paper they used for the passenger manifest didn't include status. That was a side effect of an actually unlawful action.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is literally the case; I do not care about it, nor should anyone else. I don't think it was a mistake; it might have been an "error," but come on, this is an MS-13 member. Not a kindergartner who ended up in prison in El Salvador. He is where he belongs.

He was afraid of his own government and of his gang. Why are we allowing protected status to horrible gang members who leave dead bodies of innocents to show their power?
Many Salvadorans are pleased with their president and how he is making going to the grocery store less stressful, rather than Squid Games.
I call this a good error for us.

He was not in MS13. God forbid one day the government come after you or your family member because they have a tattoo that *looks* like a gang tatto.

People say he is not in MS13, then turn around and argue it is torture to send him to a prison that has rival gangs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a good lesson in not applying for a green card

That hasn't protected other green card holders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is literally the case; I do not care about it, nor should anyone else. I don't think it was a mistake; it might have been an "error," but come on, this is an MS-13 member. Not a kindergartner who ended up in prison in El Salvador. He is where he belongs.

He was afraid of his own government and of his gang. Why are we allowing protected status to horrible gang members who leave dead bodies of innocents to show their power?
Many Salvadorans are pleased with their president and how he is making going to the grocery store less stressful, rather than Squid Games.
I call this a good error for us.

Okay, but you are in the minority. Those in your echo chamber may agree with you but outside of that, Americans do not.

I don't have an echo chamber. These are my own thoughts.

Apparently, most Americans are ok with the round ups…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/21/trump-deportations-judges-migrants/

“A Washington Post-Ipsos poll in February found 89 percent support for deporting undocumented immigrants accused of violent crimes, while 62 percent said the same for those accused of nonviolent crimes such as shoplifting.”

Does the poll ask about people who have committed no crimes? And does it ask whether rendering them to a prison is OK rather than just deporting them?

American opinions have changed a lot since the quaint faraway times of February...

+1
Again it's a mercy that there were some videos available so the public can see whst is really happening

Also the Bezosington Post should be taken with a grain of salt even in February

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/

Why did you Democrats create this open border sh*t show?

It turns out, governing is hard. MAGA is experiencing this but blaming Biden for it rather than turning their brains on and realizing that this is a large country with big issues and lots of laws to deal with lots of situations.

Ignoring all of it and saying "Deport 100 people, don't bother me with details about who they are or whether they are removable!" leads to disasters. As we see now.

DP. Problem is, it is a disaster but really only affecting a few people who are the deportee and their family members.
A few of these mistakes, maybe even a few hundred of these mistakes, are but a grain of sand in the Sahara, in comparison to the number of people who have been stopped from coming in at the border and/or lawfully deported.
Unfortunate but I do think the majority are ok with this as the cost of getting things done.

This is not the cost of getting things done if you expect competence. Do you? The mistake we have seen in the last three months are ASTONISHING. The lack of accountability is SHOCKING. Why do you accept such incompetence from our elected officials????

Because I know how extremely complex things are, and our systems work most of the time, but nothing can be perfect.
We accept those kinds of risks all the time. We drive on roads knowing there’s a small chance of getting into a fatal accident. We get medical treatments knowing there’s a small chance of something going wrong. But we don’t stay at home and do nothing because those risks exist.

Activists would have us believe we shouldn’t do any immigration enforcement because mistakes can happen, but pragmatists recognize that can’t be a reason to stay home and do nothing.

Removing people to the country that they have withholding of removal from due to the Convention Against Torture is a result of an unlawful use of the AEA. Why? For optics, not for any real reason.

We are a law-abiding country, Americans obey laws and court orders. Our government does not get a pass for willfully disobeying both.

Deport the bad guys, make sure you know which is which before doing anything. When you make a mistake, you fix it, you don't fire your lawyer. Because that's optics too, but not the kind you want.

He was denied protection based on the Convention Against Torture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is literally the case; I do not care about it, nor should anyone else. I don't think it was a mistake; it might have been an "error," but come on, this is an MS-13 member. Not a kindergartner who ended up in prison in El Salvador. He is where he belongs.

He was afraid of his own government and of his gang. Why are we allowing protected status to horrible gang members who leave dead bodies of innocents to show their power?
Many Salvadorans are pleased with their president and how he is making going to the grocery store less stressful, rather than Squid Games.
I call this a good error for us.

He was not in MS13. God forbid one day the government come after you or your family member because they have a tattoo that *looks* like a gang tatto.

People say he is not in MS13, then turn around and argue it is torture to send him to a prison that has rival gangs.

It would be torture to be housed with gang for most people. Your point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is literally the case; I do not care about it, nor should anyone else. I don't think it was a mistake; it might have been an "error," but come on, this is an MS-13 member. Not a kindergartner who ended up in prison in El Salvador. He is where he belongs.

He was afraid of his own government and of his gang. Why are we allowing protected status to horrible gang members who leave dead bodies of innocents to show their power?
Many Salvadorans are pleased with their president and how he is making going to the grocery store less stressful, rather than Squid Games.
I call this a good error for us.

The government has not come forward with any credible evidence that this man is or was a gang member yet they continue to double down on this lie. Do you really think in 2019, when Trump was president and this man was in court, that a judge would allow him to have a green card if he was a gang member? Do you really think, if this was the case, that the Trump administration would not have appealed that decision?

I pray this man is returned and he sues everyone he’s legally able to for defamation.

He does not have a green card.

[Anonymous]

VERY conservative Reagan appointee here:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is literally the case; I do not care about it, nor should anyone else. I don't think it was a mistake; it might have been an "error," but come on, this is an MS-13 member. Not a kindergartner who ended up in prison in El Salvador. He is where he belongs.

He was afraid of his own government and of his gang. Why are we allowing protected status to horrible gang members who leave dead bodies of innocents to show their power?
Many Salvadorans are pleased with their president and how he is making going to the grocery store less stressful, rather than Squid Games.
I call this a good error for us.

He was not in MS13. God forbid one day the government come after you or your family member because they have a tattoo that *looks* like a gang tatto.

People say he is not in MS13, then turn around and argue it is torture to send him to a prison that has rival gangs.

The gang (not a “rival gang”) had targeted his family business.