Lebanon / Israel

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Evacuated Israeli resident says her home was hit by a Hezbollah rocket
published at 09:27 British Summer Time
09:27 BST
An Israeli resident who was evacuated from the country's border with Lebanon 11 months ago says she doesn't know when she'll be able to return home.
Ortal Be'eri says Hezbollah started attacks on 7 October - the same day Hamas crossed the Gaza border and attacked Israel - and she left her home that evening.
Be'eri says her home was left "broken" three months ago after a rocket hit close to it - and currently lives with her partner and two children, aged nine and 10, in a hotel.
"It's hard for me to see them and me going back home where the situation is continuing," she tells BBC, saying her children "know what it feels like to have sirens and to hear rockets fall around you".

^^^
From the BBC today

Okay, now interview the 2 million people in gaza who can't return to their homes. I mean are we really supposed to feel bad for this one lady?

Thousands upon thousands of Israelis have been forced from their homes.

Millions of Gaza have been forced from their homes.

This thread is about Lebanon/Israel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, it’s 200,000 Israelis.

https://unwatch.org/report-un-silent-on-israeli-idps/#:~:text=of%20Israeli%20IDPs-,Analysis,fire%20by%20Hamas%20and%20Hezbollah.

143,000 Lebanese

https://www.internal-displacement.org/countries/lebanon/

Your first link references 200,000 Israelis displaced after Oct. 7. That number includes people in towns close to Gaza who were evacuated after 10/7.

These two articles below from this week both reference about 60,000 Israelis displaced from the north.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/return-of-displaced-northern-residents-to-their-homes-becomes-an-official-war-goal/
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cglkkrj94ldo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Middle East is a cesspool of violence. We need to be grateful to not be living there.
It is tragic, but we cannot solve everybody’s tribal warfare
It is time to step back and do nothing, enjoy our lives in a time of peace

Yes and no.

Those terror groups hate America as much as they hate Israel…and we are seeing growing numbers of religious extremists in the US. So, the problem is creeping into our country.

Too bad Bill Maher can’t de-program religious extremists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Evacuated Israeli resident says her home was hit by a Hezbollah rocket
published at 09:27 British Summer Time
09:27 BST
An Israeli resident who was evacuated from the country's border with Lebanon 11 months ago says she doesn't know when she'll be able to return home.
Ortal Be'eri says Hezbollah started attacks on 7 October - the same day Hamas crossed the Gaza border and attacked Israel - and she left her home that evening.
Be'eri says her home was left "broken" three months ago after a rocket hit close to it - and currently lives with her partner and two children, aged nine and 10, in a hotel.
"It's hard for me to see them and me going back home where the situation is continuing," she tells BBC, saying her children "know what it feels like to have sirens and to hear rockets fall around you".

^^^
From the BBC today

Okay, now interview the 2 million people in gaza who can't return to their homes. I mean are we really supposed to feel bad for this one lady?

Sigh.

Not the point.

The point is that Hezbollah was bombing Israel on Oct. 7. Unprovoked bombing the same day hamas attacked.

^^^
That’s the point.

You can’t argue self-defense or retaliation on behalf of Hamas.

It’s just the same old Iran-backed death to Israel/death to the west faux-religious fueled fighting that terrorists manipulated by rich oligarchs undertake for money. There’s nothing noble about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Evacuated Israeli resident says her home was hit by a Hezbollah rocket
published at 09:27 British Summer Time
09:27 BST
An Israeli resident who was evacuated from the country's border with Lebanon 11 months ago says she doesn't know when she'll be able to return home.
Ortal Be'eri says Hezbollah started attacks on 7 October - the same day Hamas crossed the Gaza border and attacked Israel - and she left her home that evening.
Be'eri says her home was left "broken" three months ago after a rocket hit close to it - and currently lives with her partner and two children, aged nine and 10, in a hotel.
"It's hard for me to see them and me going back home where the situation is continuing," she tells BBC, saying her children "know what it feels like to have sirens and to hear rockets fall around you".

^^^
From the BBC today

Okay, now interview the 2 million people in gaza who can't return to their homes. I mean are we really supposed to feel bad for this one lady?

Sigh.

Not the point.

The point is that Hezbollah was bombing Israel on Oct. 7. Unprovoked bombing the same day hamas attacked.

^^^
That’s the point.

You can’t argue self-defense or retaliation on behalf of Hamas.

It’s just the same old Iran-backed death to Israel/death to the west faux-religious fueled fighting that terrorists manipulated by rich oligarchs undertake for money. There’s nothing noble about it.

No, there is no record of Hezbollah attacking on October 7. Just because this one woman says it happened, doesn't make it fact. All news reports say Hezbollah started October 8.

Also, they did not bomb Israel on October 8. They launched rockets at Israeli positions in what they consider Lebanese territory, which is not recognized as Israel by most of the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Middle East is a cesspool of violence. We need to be grateful to not be living there.
It is tragic, but we cannot solve everybody’s tribal warfare
It is time to step back and do nothing, enjoy our lives in a time of peace

Yes and no.

Those terror groups hate America as much as they hate Israel…and we are seeing growing numbers of religious extremists in the US. So, the problem is creeping into our country.

Too bad Bill Maher can’t de-program religious extremists.

They hate America because of Israel. Opinions of Americans in the Middle East were actually quite high before 1948

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love how people act as though Palestinians had this unbroken historical record of being the people living in Israel, when the word “Palestine” was coined by the Romans to replace “Judah” when they conquered the Jewish kingdom that was there.

Muslims didn’t move to Israel until the 600s, when the Islamic Caliphate conquered the land. Jews were still there and had been living under Roman rule. Then they lived under Muslim rule.

But let me be clear: Jews have always been there. Always.

Thank you.

The political class in Israel has as much of a legitimate claim to that land as Barney the Dinosaur. FFS, open your eyes. Compare the pasty visages you see when you think of Behin, Meir, Rabin, Sharon, and now Netanyahu, with ANYONE else around those parts.

The people at the controls of the Palestinian genocide have zero claim that wouldn’t be laughed out of a 9th grade biology class.

WTF are you rambling about?

Jews have always lived there. Sorry. It’s just a fact.

Sure, Jews have lived there - along with other indigenous people with just as much claim to the land.

But you? One of the many cretins from Poland or Russia or Ukraine who cosplay Jewish identity? GTFOH.

if you look at history isreal should have more land but gave it back in exchange for peace but that was not honored :

During the Six-Day War of 1967, Israel had captured Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, roughly half of Syria's Golan Heights, and the territories of the West Bank which had been held by Jordan since 1948.[82]

On 19 June 1967, shortly after the Six-Day War, the Israeli government voted to return the Sinai to Egypt and the Golan Heights to Syria in exchange for a permanent peace settlement and a demilitarization of the returned territories.

Right. You mean the war where Israel preemptively struck even though it was clear to multiple intelligence agencies that there was no real threat to Israel at the time?

You don't read much, do you?

Go do your homework and get back to me. I only know this because I read...

[Anonymous]

The pagers were manufactured in Taiwan. They were sold by a Hungarian firm.

There is no solid evidence Israel had anything to do with this occurrence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The pagers were manufactured in Taiwan. They were sold by a Hungarian firm.

There is no solid evidence Israel had anything to do with this occurrence.

Iran IS Hezbollah; they are one and the same.

Iran/Hezbollah has many enemies besides Israel.

Maybe Saudi Arabia is behind the explosions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Evacuated Israeli resident says her home was hit by a Hezbollah rocket
published at 09:27 British Summer Time
09:27 BST
An Israeli resident who was evacuated from the country's border with Lebanon 11 months ago says she doesn't know when she'll be able to return home.
Ortal Be'eri says Hezbollah started attacks on 7 October - the same day Hamas crossed the Gaza border and attacked Israel - and she left her home that evening.
Be'eri says her home was left "broken" three months ago after a rocket hit close to it - and currently lives with her partner and two children, aged nine and 10, in a hotel.
"It's hard for me to see them and me going back home where the situation is continuing," she tells BBC, saying her children "know what it feels like to have sirens and to hear rockets fall around you".

^^^
From the BBC today

Okay, now interview the 2 million people in gaza who can't return to their homes. I mean are we really supposed to feel bad for this one lady?

Sigh.

Not the point.

The point is that Hezbollah was bombing Israel on Oct. 7. Unprovoked bombing the same day hamas attacked.

^^^
That’s the point.

You can’t argue self-defense or retaliation on behalf of Hamas.

It’s just the same old Iran-backed death to Israel/death to the west faux-religious fueled fighting that terrorists manipulated by rich oligarchs undertake for money. There’s nothing noble about it.

No, there is no record of Hezbollah attacking on October 7. Just because this one woman says it happened, doesn't make it fact. All news reports say Hezbollah started October 8.

Also, they did not bomb Israel on October 8. They launched rockets at Israeli positions in what they consider Lebanese territory, which is not recognized as Israel by most of the world.

If you watched the war unfold in real time on cnn and other outlets that day and that week, you would recall that Hezbollah was firing missiles. It happened.

[Anonymous]

This is not good for Biden/ Harris—huge front page article in WaPo about how he is losing control of the situation in the Mideast.

Multiple articles— not looking good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Evacuated Israeli resident says her home was hit by a Hezbollah rocket
published at 09:27 British Summer Time
09:27 BST
An Israeli resident who was evacuated from the country's border with Lebanon 11 months ago says she doesn't know when she'll be able to return home.
Ortal Be'eri says Hezbollah started attacks on 7 October - the same day Hamas crossed the Gaza border and attacked Israel - and she left her home that evening.
Be'eri says her home was left "broken" three months ago after a rocket hit close to it - and currently lives with her partner and two children, aged nine and 10, in a hotel.
"It's hard for me to see them and me going back home where the situation is continuing," she tells BBC, saying her children "know what it feels like to have sirens and to hear rockets fall around you".

^^^
From the BBC today

Okay, now interview the 2 million people in gaza who can't return to their homes. I mean are we really supposed to feel bad for this one lady?

Sigh.

Not the point.

The point is that Hezbollah was bombing Israel on Oct. 7. Unprovoked bombing the same day hamas attacked.

^^^
That’s the point.

You can’t argue self-defense or retaliation on behalf of Hamas.

It’s just the same old Iran-backed death to Israel/death to the west faux-religious fueled fighting that terrorists manipulated by rich oligarchs undertake for money. There’s nothing noble about it.

No, there is no record of Hezbollah attacking on October 7. Just because this one woman says it happened, doesn't make it fact. All news reports say Hezbollah started October 8.

Also, they did not bomb Israel on October 8. They launched rockets at Israeli positions in what they consider Lebanese territory, which is not recognized as Israel by most of the world.

If you watched the war unfold in real time on cnn and other outlets that day and that week, you would recall that Hezbollah was firing missiles. It happened.

It may have been reported that day when things were chaotic.

As a reminder, many things reported at that time that turned out to be not true.

No news article I have seen says that the attacks started October 7. All the ones say they started October 8 with rockets fired towards Israeli positions in border area of Shebaa farms. Some articles call the area "disputed" or "contested".

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-gaza-hamas-rockets-airstrikes-tel-aviv-ca7903976387cfc1e1011ce9ea805a71
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-artillery-strikes-targets-in-lebanon-as-mortar-shells-fired-toward-israel/
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-strikes-lebanon-after-hezbollah-hits-shebaa-farms-2023-10-08/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love how people act as though Palestinians had this unbroken historical record of being the people living in Israel, when the word “Palestine” was coined by the Romans to replace “Judah” when they conquered the Jewish kingdom that was there.

Muslims didn’t move to Israel until the 600s, when the Islamic Caliphate conquered the land. Jews were still there and had been living under Roman rule. Then they lived under Muslim rule.

But let me be clear: Jews have always been there. Always.

Thank you.

The political class in Israel has as much of a legitimate claim to that land as Barney the Dinosaur. FFS, open your eyes. Compare the pasty visages you see when you think of Behin, Meir, Rabin, Sharon, and now Netanyahu, with ANYONE else around those parts.

The people at the controls of the Palestinian genocide have zero claim that wouldn’t be laughed out of a 9th grade biology class.

WTF are you rambling about?

Jews have always lived there. Sorry. It’s just a fact.

Sure, Jews have lived there - along with other indigenous people with just as much claim to the land.

But you? One of the many cretins from Poland or Russia or Ukraine who cosplay Jewish identity? GTFOH.

if you look at history isreal should have more land but gave it back in exchange for peace but that was not honored :

During the Six-Day War of 1967, Israel had captured Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, roughly half of Syria's Golan Heights, and the territories of the West Bank which had been held by Jordan since 1948.[82]

On 19 June 1967, shortly after the Six-Day War, the Israeli government voted to return the Sinai to Egypt and the Golan Heights to Syria in exchange for a permanent peace settlement and a demilitarization of the returned territories.

Right. You mean the war where Israel preemptively struck even though it was clear to multiple intelligence agencies that there was no real threat to Israel at the time?

You don't read much, do you?

Go do your homework and get back to me. I only know this because I read...

I've read this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Days_of_War

It's pretty informative.
Where'd you get your info?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Evacuated Israeli resident says her home was hit by a Hezbollah rocket
published at 09:27 British Summer Time
09:27 BST
An Israeli resident who was evacuated from the country's border with Lebanon 11 months ago says she doesn't know when she'll be able to return home.
Ortal Be'eri says Hezbollah started attacks on 7 October - the same day Hamas crossed the Gaza border and attacked Israel - and she left her home that evening.
Be'eri says her home was left "broken" three months ago after a rocket hit close to it - and currently lives with her partner and two children, aged nine and 10, in a hotel.
"It's hard for me to see them and me going back home where the situation is continuing," she tells BBC, saying her children "know what it feels like to have sirens and to hear rockets fall around you".

^^^
From the BBC today

Okay, now interview the 2 million people in gaza who can't return to their homes. I mean are we really supposed to feel bad for this one lady?

Thousands upon thousands of Israelis have been forced from their homes.

DP

If even one of those displaced Israelis lives in a home that lies within occupied territory, the civilized world (i.e., everyone but the U.S. political class, religious nut jobs, and racists, Israel, and micro-states beholden to the U.S.) doesn’t give AF about their hardship or inconvenience. Not a single F.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The pagers were manufactured in Taiwan. They were sold by a Hungarian firm.

There is no solid evidence Israel had anything to do with this occurrence.

I think the Israeli intelligence created the Hungarian firm. It was a 15-year op.
Read the NYT and WSJ.
Amazingly thorough and detailed planning.
Wish our CIA was as on top of it.