Yes. Your Kid is overscheduled.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is saying to not do any activities. This is about a child having an activity each day or multiple activities each day or have multiple games on Saturday for the same sport but different teams.. and that kid missing one game to make another.. that is a problem even if you all face to recognize it.

Also, is there no kid who wants to come home after a long day at school and just decompress and chill..

I fail to recognize a problem I don't actually see. I don't know ONE kid who has multiple activities every day and overlapping sports every weekend.

I knew one. She was one of my daughter’s best friends in elementary school. For people who have only heard of sports there are other ways to over schedule. She went to two different dance schools, cheerleading, gymnastics, voice lessons, musical theatre. She was a Jack of all trades master of none. Literally never mastered any of them. And her mother was mean.

The few times she was allowed over our house she was so happy to just hang out. We took her to a family barbecue once where their small town had fireworks and a carnival. Things she had never done before.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are Americans so obsessed with kids sports? I am just baffled. All these parents worried that if they don't start X sport at 5, then their kid won't have a chance of making their HS team. Really, who cares? What am I missing. Team sports are a giant pain in the ass. There are so many other activities kids could be doing that are easier to schedule. I get that it's great to be on a team and it has positive benefits etc but that applies to a rec team, or any other activity that has been sacrificed to do the team sport (an instrument, individual sport, more focus on academics, more sleep, less stress).

Competitive sports are hardly a uniquely American concept. World-wide, people are raising competitors. Look at the Russian (or sub Chinese, Japanese or Korean) figure skating programs, soccer academies, ski teams, ice hockey in Canada, etc. If you're not an athlete, then you don't get it, and you opt into whatever sports or other interests require the least amount of sacrifices.

I would be curious to know the percentage of the child population in America versus other countries that are doing highly competitive sports. Or let's be real a lot of these travel sports. Things are just a way to suck money out of parents who have overblown beliefs about their child's athletic abilities. I've heard all these funny stories about kids who did travel sports, but then weren't even good enough to make their high school team

In many Asian countries the kids are scheduled with cram schools and instrument lessons. I have friends from Singapore who talk about tutoring centers the size of shopping malls. The kids are studying far longer then the American kid playing travel sports.

Amd that's not any better. It's like ppl today forget to let kids have a childhood

You act like these kids don’t actually like what they do and of course they would rather be skipping stones.

You act like all these kids actually like what they do.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are Americans so obsessed with kids sports? I am just baffled. All these parents worried that if they don't start X sport at 5, then their kid won't have a chance of making their HS team. Really, who cares? What am I missing. Team sports are a giant pain in the ass. There are so many other activities kids could be doing that are easier to schedule. I get that it's great to be on a team and it has positive benefits etc but that applies to a rec team, or any other activity that has been sacrificed to do the team sport (an instrument, individual sport, more focus on academics, more sleep, less stress).

Competitive sports are hardly a uniquely American concept. World-wide, people are raising competitors. Look at the Russian (or sub Chinese, Japanese or Korean) figure skating programs, soccer academies, ski teams, ice hockey in Canada, etc. If you're not an athlete, then you don't get it, and you opt into whatever sports or other interests require the least amount of sacrifices.

I would be curious to know the percentage of the child population in America versus other countries that are doing highly competitive sports. Or let's be real a lot of these travel sports. Things are just a way to suck money out of parents who have overblown beliefs about their child's athletic abilities. I've heard all these funny stories about kids who did travel sports, but then weren't even good enough to make their high school team

In many Asian countries the kids are scheduled with cram schools and instrument lessons. I have friends from Singapore who talk about tutoring centers the size of shopping malls. The kids are studying far longer then the American kid playing travel sports.

Amd that's not any better. It's like ppl today forget to let kids have a childhood

You act like these kids don’t actually like what they do and of course they would rather be skipping stones.

You act like all these kids actually like what they do.

Mine do.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even get OPs beef. She said kids need to be bored but also her kid has no one to play with. So, kid is probably bored. Isn't this what OP wanted?

No, ops can probably can entertain themselves and handle boredom, but it's always better and more fun for kids to have other kids around.

Great things happen when bored teenagers get together.

Once again, not all teenagers do thos things. They ate capable of just being kids and have fun. I'm sorry for kids who aren't.

Are you sorry for the ones sitting at home bored who start chatting with strangers on Discord? https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1192713.page

Sitting around chatting with strangers on discord I'd not a great idea or something that I'd allow.

How about Roblox? The linked article describes how perpetrators have groomed kids as young as 8 years old whom they met in Roblox chatrooms. https://wapo.st/4cb7bi9

These online games make me nervous. So far my kids haven't asked and don't have an interest. Not sure how I'd handle if they did.

Now imagine your kid is in middle school enjoying free time at the playground with other kids whose phones have full access to discord or snap or Roblox. Now your permission is not needed because it’s not your phone.

MS is too old for playgrounds.

Playgrounds are ok for middle school if they have a basketball court, exercise equipment, fields. We aren’t talking about the slides.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are Americans so obsessed with kids sports? I am just baffled. All these parents worried that if they don't start X sport at 5, then their kid won't have a chance of making their HS team. Really, who cares? What am I missing. Team sports are a giant pain in the ass. There are so many other activities kids could be doing that are easier to schedule. I get that it's great to be on a team and it has positive benefits etc but that applies to a rec team, or any other activity that has been sacrificed to do the team sport (an instrument, individual sport, more focus on academics, more sleep, less stress).

Competitive sports are hardly a uniquely American concept. World-wide, people are raising competitors. Look at the Russian (or sub Chinese, Japanese or Korean) figure skating programs, soccer academies, ski teams, ice hockey in Canada, etc. If you're not an athlete, then you don't get it, and you opt into whatever sports or other interests require the least amount of sacrifices.

I notice parents use the word Athlete pretty loosely. Russia, China, and other countries hand pick kids who are clearly in the top 1% in all aspects of what it takes to be an athlete. In Canada kids play hockey in the frozen lake down the street as soon as they can walk.

This is America where the kids are made to believe that all they need is hard work and they will be an athlete wanted by colleges and then maybe pro. So parents sign their kid up for private coaching even though they are doing just fine on their team. They play a sport year round in different places. They think their kid is a talented athlete. Maybe but probably not.

Big business gives a lot of kids false hope so they continue to pay them money.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even get OPs beef. She said kids need to be bored but also her kid has no one to play with. So, kid is probably bored. Isn't this what OP wanted?

No, ops can probably can entertain themselves and handle boredom, but it's always better and more fun for kids to have other kids around.

Great things happen when bored teenagers get together.

Once again, not all teenagers do thos things. They ate capable of just being kids and have fun. I'm sorry for kids who aren't.

Are you sorry for the ones sitting at home bored who start chatting with strangers on Discord? https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1192713.page

Sitting around chatting with strangers on discord I'd not a great idea or something that I'd allow.

How about Roblox? The linked article describes how perpetrators have groomed kids as young as 8 years old whom they met in Roblox chatrooms. https://wapo.st/4cb7bi9

These online games make me nervous. So far my kids haven't asked and don't have an interest. Not sure how I'd handle if they did.

Now imagine your kid is in middle school enjoying free time at the playground with other kids whose phones have full access to discord or snap or Roblox. Now your permission is not needed because it’s not your phone.

MS is too old for playgrounds.

No they're not, unless it's a little kiddie one for like toddlers or something

Yes it is. 13 year olds aren't hanging out at the local playground. You live in some kind of fantasyland.

No, I don't live in a fantasy world. I know what my friends and I did. Also I think it's funny that a 13 year is somehow too old for kid stuff, but it's totally fine for them to have free access to the internet and social media. Them adults will complain that they're acting too old and growing up to fast.

You may give your kids free access to internet and social media, but many of us don't. Mine didn't have social media till 14 and it's heavily monitored. And, most 13 year olds don't want to hang out at the playground and only do it as they aren't welcome in their home or they are really bored. That is for elementary school.

I don't give free internet access at all. I guess 13 year are far different than I was

Maybe that's it. You are a sample size of one former 13 year old, of a different generation. Time has moved on and so should you.

So as an extremely young teen, 13 you only did organized activities. You never went outside with friends just for fun? You didn't ride bikes or play basketball? No night games, like capture the flag?

No, the opposite. My mom was too lazy and sat around smoking watching tv or gossiping with her friends not caring what I was doing at 13. Likely just riding my bike to my friends houses so we could do nothing together. I want better for my kids.

There were plenty of parents back then that didn’t initiate anything. The motivated kids were at the basketball court every day or skating and ice hockey where there was cold weather. The local fields had baseball diamonds where you could go with a few kids and practice.

I know growing up this is what everyone did until they joined school sports. And I know former pros in football, hockey and lacrosse.

So stop blaming your parents when it was you who didn’t have the drive to do it.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even get OPs beef. She said kids need to be bored but also her kid has no one to play with. So, kid is probably bored. Isn't this what OP wanted?

No, ops can probably can entertain themselves and handle boredom, but it's always better and more fun for kids to have other kids around.

Great things happen when bored teenagers get together.

Once again, not all teenagers do thos things. They ate capable of just being kids and have fun. I'm sorry for kids who aren't.

Are you sorry for the ones sitting at home bored who start chatting with strangers on Discord? https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1192713.page

Sitting around chatting with strangers on discord I'd not a great idea or something that I'd allow.

How about Roblox? The linked article describes how perpetrators have groomed kids as young as 8 years old whom they met in Roblox chatrooms. https://wapo.st/4cb7bi9

These online games make me nervous. So far my kids haven't asked and don't have an interest. Not sure how I'd handle if they did.

Now imagine your kid is in middle school enjoying free time at the playground with other kids whose phones have full access to discord or snap or Roblox. Now your permission is not needed because it’s not your phone.

MS is too old for playgrounds.

No they're not, unless it's a little kiddie one for like toddlers or something

Yes it is. 13 year olds aren't hanging out at the local playground. You live in some kind of fantasyland.

No, I don't live in a fantasy world. I know what my friends and I did. Also I think it's funny that a 13 year is somehow too old for kid stuff, but it's totally fine for them to have free access to the internet and social media. Them adults will complain that they're acting too old and growing up to fast.

You may give your kids free access to internet and social media, but many of us don't. Mine didn't have social media till 14 and it's heavily monitored. And, most 13 year olds don't want to hang out at the playground and only do it as they aren't welcome in their home or they are really bored. That is for elementary school.

I don't give free internet access at all. I guess 13 year are far different than I was

Maybe that's it. You are a sample size of one former 13 year old, of a different generation. Time has moved on and so should you.

So as an extremely young teen, 13 you only did organized activities. You never went outside with friends just for fun? You didn't ride bikes or play basketball? No night games, like capture the flag?

No, the opposite. My mom was too lazy and sat around smoking watching tv or gossiping with her friends not caring what I was doing at 13. Likely just riding my bike to my friends houses so we could do nothing together. I want better for my kids.

There were plenty of parents back then that didn’t initiate anything. The motivated kids were at the basketball court every day or skating and ice hockey where there was cold weather. The local fields had baseball diamonds where you could go with a few kids and practice.

I know growing up this is what everyone did until they joined school sports. And I know former pros in football, hockey and lacrosse.

So stop blaming your parents when it was you who didn’t have the drive to do it.

Ok. You know what you’re talking about. When you know better, you do better.

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Do better for what exactly? What so bad about playing sports informally with other kids? It was always lots of fun, probably moreso than being on any team.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even get OPs beef. She said kids need to be bored but also her kid has no one to play with. So, kid is probably bored. Isn't this what OP wanted?

No, ops can probably can entertain themselves and handle boredom, but it's always better and more fun for kids to have other kids around.

Great things happen when bored teenagers get together.

Once again, not all teenagers do thos things. They ate capable of just being kids and have fun. I'm sorry for kids who aren't.

Are you sorry for the ones sitting at home bored who start chatting with strangers on Discord? https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1192713.page

Sitting around chatting with strangers on discord I'd not a great idea or something that I'd allow.

How about Roblox? The linked article describes how perpetrators have groomed kids as young as 8 years old whom they met in Roblox chatrooms. https://wapo.st/4cb7bi9

These online games make me nervous. So far my kids haven't asked and don't have an interest. Not sure how I'd handle if they did.

Now imagine your kid is in middle school enjoying free time at the playground with other kids whose phones have full access to discord or snap or Roblox. Now your permission is not needed because it’s not your phone.

MS is too old for playgrounds.

Playgrounds are ok for middle school if they have a basketball court, exercise equipment, fields. We aren’t talking about the slides.

Not all kids like basketball or fields. Dull. Why not let them do what they enjoy?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even get OPs beef. She said kids need to be bored but also her kid has no one to play with. So, kid is probably bored. Isn't this what OP wanted?

No, ops can probably can entertain themselves and handle boredom, but it's always better and more fun for kids to have other kids around.

Great things happen when bored teenagers get together.

Once again, not all teenagers do thos things. They ate capable of just being kids and have fun. I'm sorry for kids who aren't.

Are you sorry for the ones sitting at home bored who start chatting with strangers on Discord? https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1192713.page

Sitting around chatting with strangers on discord I'd not a great idea or something that I'd allow.

How about Roblox? The linked article describes how perpetrators have groomed kids as young as 8 years old whom they met in Roblox chatrooms. https://wapo.st/4cb7bi9

These online games make me nervous. So far my kids haven't asked and don't have an interest. Not sure how I'd handle if they did.

Now imagine your kid is in middle school enjoying free time at the playground with other kids whose phones have full access to discord or snap or Roblox. Now your permission is not needed because it’s not your phone.

MS is too old for playgrounds.

Playgrounds are ok for middle school if they have a basketball court, exercise equipment, fields. We aren’t talking about the slides.

Not all kids like basketball or fields. Dull. Why not let them do what they enjoy?

If this a park or playground with space, then can play any sport or game that they wish.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are Americans so obsessed with kids sports? I am just baffled. All these parents worried that if they don't start X sport at 5, then their kid won't have a chance of making their HS team. Really, who cares? What am I missing. Team sports are a giant pain in the ass. There are so many other activities kids could be doing that are easier to schedule. I get that it's great to be on a team and it has positive benefits etc but that applies to a rec team, or any other activity that has been sacrificed to do the team sport (an instrument, individual sport, more focus on academics, more sleep, less stress).

Competitive sports are hardly a uniquely American concept. World-wide, people are raising competitors. Look at the Russian (or sub Chinese, Japanese or Korean) figure skating programs, soccer academies, ski teams, ice hockey in Canada, etc. If you're not an athlete, then you don't get it, and you opt into whatever sports or other interests require the least amount of sacrifices.

I notice parents use the word Athlete pretty loosely. Russia, China, and other countries hand pick kids who are clearly in the top 1% in all aspects of what it takes to be an athlete. In Canada kids play hockey in the frozen lake down the street as soon as they can walk.

This is America where the kids are made to believe that all they need is hard work and they will be an athlete wanted by colleges and then maybe pro. So parents sign their kid up for private coaching even though they are doing just fine on their team. They play a sport year round in different places. They think their kid is a talented athlete. Maybe but probably not.

Big business gives a lot of kids false hope so they continue to pay them money.

I don’t know one kid whose parents think their kid is going to play pro. My kids’ friends want to play in high school. Very few may play in college.

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It may not be about going pro, but it is about college scholarships. Parents don't want to have to pay got college.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even get OPs beef. She said kids need to be bored but also her kid has no one to play with. So, kid is probably bored. Isn't this what OP wanted?

No, ops can probably can entertain themselves and handle boredom, but it's always better and more fun for kids to have other kids around.

Great things happen when bored teenagers get together.

Once again, not all teenagers do thos things. They ate capable of just being kids and have fun. I'm sorry for kids who aren't.

Are you sorry for the ones sitting at home bored who start chatting with strangers on Discord? https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1192713.page

Sitting around chatting with strangers on discord I'd not a great idea or something that I'd allow.

How about Roblox? The linked article describes how perpetrators have groomed kids as young as 8 years old whom they met in Roblox chatrooms. https://wapo.st/4cb7bi9

These online games make me nervous. So far my kids haven't asked and don't have an interest. Not sure how I'd handle if they did.

Now imagine your kid is in middle school enjoying free time at the playground with other kids whose phones have full access to discord or snap or Roblox. Now your permission is not needed because it’s not your phone.

MS is too old for playgrounds.

Playgrounds are ok for middle school if they have a basketball court, exercise equipment, fields. We aren’t talking about the slides.

Not all kids like basketball or fields. Dull. Why not let them do what they enjoy?

If this a park or playground with space, then can play any sport or game that they wish.

Thanks for your permission

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even get OPs beef. She said kids need to be bored but also her kid has no one to play with. So, kid is probably bored. Isn't this what OP wanted?

No, ops can probably can entertain themselves and handle boredom, but it's always better and more fun for kids to have other kids around.

Great things happen when bored teenagers get together.

Once again, not all teenagers do thos things. They ate capable of just being kids and have fun. I'm sorry for kids who aren't.

Are you sorry for the ones sitting at home bored who start chatting with strangers on Discord? https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1192713.page

Sitting around chatting with strangers on discord I'd not a great idea or something that I'd allow.

How about Roblox? The linked article describes how perpetrators have groomed kids as young as 8 years old whom they met in Roblox chatrooms. https://wapo.st/4cb7bi9

These online games make me nervous. So far my kids haven't asked and don't have an interest. Not sure how I'd handle if they did.

Now imagine your kid is in middle school enjoying free time at the playground with other kids whose phones have full access to discord or snap or Roblox. Now your permission is not needed because it’s not your phone.

MS is too old for playgrounds.

Playgrounds are ok for middle school if they have a basketball court, exercise equipment, fields. We aren’t talking about the slides.

Not all kids like basketball or fields. Dull. Why not let them do what they enjoy?

If this a park or playground with space, then can play any sport or game that they wish.

Thanks for your permission

Permission? I wasn't giving permission for anything. Young teens can enjoy parks/playgrounds. That's what I was getting at.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even get OPs beef. She said kids need to be bored but also her kid has no one to play with. So, kid is probably bored. Isn't this what OP wanted?

No, ops can probably can entertain themselves and handle boredom, but it's always better and more fun for kids to have other kids around.

Great things happen when bored teenagers get together.

Once again, not all teenagers do thos things. They ate capable of just being kids and have fun. I'm sorry for kids who aren't.

Are you sorry for the ones sitting at home bored who start chatting with strangers on Discord? https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1192713.page

Sitting around chatting with strangers on discord I'd not a great idea or something that I'd allow.

How about Roblox? The linked article describes how perpetrators have groomed kids as young as 8 years old whom they met in Roblox chatrooms. https://wapo.st/4cb7bi9

These online games make me nervous. So far my kids haven't asked and don't have an interest. Not sure how I'd handle if they did.

Now imagine your kid is in middle school enjoying free time at the playground with other kids whose phones have full access to discord or snap or Roblox. Now your permission is not needed because it’s not your phone.

MS is too old for playgrounds.

Playgrounds are ok for middle school if they have a basketball court, exercise equipment, fields. We aren’t talking about the slides.

Not all kids like basketball or fields. Dull. Why not let them do what they enjoy?

If this a park or playground with space, then can play any sport or game that they wish.

So, how do they swim?