Huge mass shooting incident in Lewiston, ME

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Anonymous wrote:the above poster came in and did EXACTLY what another poster a page before predicted

The exact same gun shows up in 99.99% of mass shootings. Why? Because it is efficient at causing mass human carnage in an incredibly short amount of time

Can we please just ban THOSE guns ASAP? I don't give a flying rat's behind what the proper name or term for them are. I want my kids to not have to worry about their bodies being demolished in a millisecond because some a-hole whose girlfriend just broke up with him is angry at the world

Y'all cain't take away mah freedom.

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I come from a hunting family. No hunter needs an assault weapon. There are perhaps some parts of the country that are very hunting-oriented, but that's not a problem at all.

We can enact federal: assault-weapons ban, weapons-modification ban, rigorous background check, red-flag law and gun fair sale restrictions... without gutting the 2nd amendment.

And if we built walls at the southern border (which costs an absolute fortune, which is why it's never been done in its entirety), and funded control and management of check-points, we'd have fewer drugs and weapons coming. I know the southern border isn't the only point of entry.

We also need to FUND and TRAIN police and sheriff forces across the country, for God's sakes, so that they arrest more criminals and confiscate more guns from them. For God's sakes.

Police forces and sheriffs are the best funded portion of pretty much every budget across the country. If you don’t like the work they do, it’s the fault of the police union and the fact that bad police officers are never chucked out. Like pedophile priests, they’re just moved around.

Seriously, go look at your city and country budget. See the amount city and county law enforcement receive. They have plenty of money, increases, even.

WE NEED MORE. Just because they're the "best funded" (more than schools, I think not), it doesn't mean it's enough.

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I think the marketing messages also play a part in the problem of gun violence.

I mean the message that guns are powerful, sexy, manly/make you a man, and a solution to problems. Not just a tool, but a symbol of so much more.

Our gun laws need to change, but so does our culture, in this respect.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the marketing messages also play a part in the problem of gun violence.

I mean the message that guns are powerful, sexy, manly/make you a man, and a solution to problems. Not just a tool, but a symbol of so much more.

Our gun laws need to change, but so does our culture, in this respect.

Especially if you can't get a girlfriend! Ammosexuals have rights too!

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A doctor whose team is treating victims of Wednesday's mass shooting in Maine described the destructive nature of the bullets used in the rampage, saying that seeing their impact was "sobering."

"This was the first time that I'd actually taken care of someone with high-velocity gunshot wounds," Dr. Richard King, chief of trauma at Central Maine Medical Center, told CBS News on Friday. "I'd read about them ... but to actually see them in person and see the destructive ability of those rounds was really quite sobering."

"Most, if not all, of our patients had at least one of those really severe wounds," he said. "Absolutely destructive. Complete destruction of the surrounding tissue is really, really quite something."

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Anonymous wrote:A doctor whose team is treating victims of Wednesday's mass shooting in Maine described the destructive nature of the bullets used in the rampage, saying that seeing their impact was "sobering."

"This was the first time that I'd actually taken care of someone with high-velocity gunshot wounds," Dr. Richard King, chief of trauma at Central Maine Medical Center, told CBS News on Friday. "I'd read about them ... but to actually see them in person and see the destructive ability of those rounds was really quite sobering."

"Most, if not all, of our patients had at least one of those really severe wounds," he said. "Absolutely destructive. Complete destruction of the surrounding tissue is really, really quite something."

This is like click bait to these gun nuts. They just looooooove to read something like this. Makes them feel all tingly inside.

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Anonymous wrote:the above poster came in and did EXACTLY what another poster a page before predicted

The exact same gun shows up in 99.99% of mass shootings. Why? Because it is efficient at causing mass human carnage in an incredibly short amount of time

Can we please just ban THOSE guns ASAP? I don't give a flying rat's behind what the proper name or term for them are. I want my kids to not have to worry about their bodies being demolished in a millisecond because some a-hole whose girlfriend just broke up with him is angry at the world

If history of these losers is anything to go by, his girlfriend who was trying to leave him is usually in a pile of blood herself. Misogyny has in it a degree of entitlement: entitlement to decide what a woman does with her body, brain, time and love. It’s all over the GOP and it’s especially evident in mass shootings given that almost all of them have a history of domestic violence.

And look at the gaslighting from the gun nuts, trying to convince us that AR-15s aren’t any different from regular rifles, then getting huffy when people point out that if there’s no difference, then why do they insist on having such a gun.

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I come from a hunting family. No hunter needs an assault weapon. There are perhaps some parts of the country that are very hunting-oriented, but that's not a problem at all.

We can enact federal: assault-weapons ban, weapons-modification ban, rigorous background check, red-flag law and gun fair sale restrictions... without gutting the 2nd amendment.

And if we built walls at the southern border (which costs an absolute fortune, which is why it's never been done in its entirety), and funded control and management of check-points, we'd have fewer drugs and weapons coming. I know the southern border isn't the only point of entry.

We also need to FUND and TRAIN police and sheriff forces across the country, for God's sakes, so that they arrest more criminals and confiscate more guns from them. For God's sakes.

Agree. Came from a hunting and military family. My dad put in 21 years active duty as an NCO and among other things he served as a marksmanship instructor and was part of a competitive shooting team in the military. And while we do have a number of rifles and pistols he DOES NOT own an AR-15, and thinks it's stupid for civilians to own them. In fact he doesn't even think civilians should have semi-auto rifles. We use bolt-action rifles for hunting. And even with those he doesn't think civilians need military bolt-action rifles, years back a friend of mine gave me an Enfield and he raised an eyebrow, "what the hell are you going to do with that thing?"

Yet now we have to deal with a country full of dopey nutcase Meal Team Six operators who want AR-15s.

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Anonymous wrote:Rep Golden from Maine's 2nd District now calling on assault weapons ban, which he has previously not supported. And apologized for his failure on this issue. I want to say what took him so long - but will refrain since it seems he's doing the right thing now.

Slow in coming but he’s taking responsibility and doing the right thing.

I wish all the other places that will be affected by assault weapon mass murders in the future would just figure it out now and help prevent the next massacre.

I hate that he was fine to ignore and distance himself from all the dead Sandy Hook kids, all the dead Vegas and Orlando innocents. But he may well lose his seat with this announcement so I appreciate his late courage.

He wasn't in Congress for Sandy Hook. Maine is big gun country and this is a BFD if he's changed his tune. Americans are sick and tired of this!

This is PP - I live in Maine. I’m living this event. He was alive during Sandy Hook and that should have been enough for him, and everyone, to come out against assault weapons. But yes, it’s a big deal to change his tune, and again, he could be voted out due to it if enough people aren’t as deeply impacted as Jared is.

I am a military spouse and disturbed that this guy was hearing voices, having psychotic breaks etc. and .... going about his day? Have they determined why he was not receiving treatment through the military, and why he had access to an assault weapon? Was it acquired illegally? This sounds like a fail on so many levels. And I abhor the loss of life. So much sad news.

Idiot: Access? How about walking into a gun store. Acquired illegally? Why? AR-15s are perfectly legal.

After all, who are we to say a mass shooter can't have the gun of his choice?

Illegally due to his documented poor mental health.

Again, Maine has no red flag laws.

Ok. This is one of the huge fails then. I hope they will also address this. We own a gun, and I am happy to have checks, required training, jump through every hoop and have guns removed from people too. Thank you for answering my question.

You’re welcome. We also have one gun in the house, stored unloaded in a combination safe. We are in Maryland and my husband went through a training course and a rigorous background check. There’s no reason why anyone else shouldn’t have to either.

Oooohh, a rigorous background check, you say? Well, all is right with the world, then. Anyone who doesn't have any wants or warrants or is not subject to a current restraining order can buy an AR-15 (one a month if they want!) perfectly legally. It's the mass shooter's favorite. Nothing to be concerned about!

I am the PP, PP was responding to. By all means legislate that. I am fine with AR-15 in a town or city armory to be unlocked for the citizens to use in case of attack. I don't see why anyone needs one at home either.

Because, naturally, there’s always going to be plenty of time for “the citizens” to hop in the car, drive down to the “town or city armory,” stand in line, appear before their appointed betters, present their credentials, receive their bought-and-paid-for personal property, drive home, clean and lubricate their firearm, load it and make ready, and then respond to “attack,” which doubtless will be on hold pending the “citizen’s” completion of these ministrations.

Tell that to the folks about a mile and a half as the crow flies from my house in a quiet suburb who were suddenly confronted the other day with a broad daylight home invasion by multiple individuals armed with guns.

People have the right to keep their belongings where they want to, not where they are told to. Freedom isn’t about “needs,” especially “needs” determined by some overarching authority armed to the teeth with the very weapons it seeks to withhold from its “subjects.”

Concepts like yours are frankly delusional.

This is not a thing. And having an AR-15 at home at the ready, or a grenade launcher, would not make them safer anyway.

I used to be a supporter of gun rights for hunters and for protection. But no more. Too many adults and too many children have been killed for every person to have the right to keep "their belongings" where they want to. Maybe you will come around, when a mass shooting happens too close to you. Maybe you won't. But the country will. It's a slow process now but it's happening.

NP.

You destroyed the only remaining deterrent to violent criminals by defunding police, and now you want to take away my only remaining means of defending my family?!?

Screw you! No new gun control.

And had my guns not all been lost in a tragic boating accident, I would not register them in your dishonest pre-confiscation scheme either.

You people keep accidentally disproving your "go after the criminals, not us - we are law abiding gun owners" narrative. You clearly aren't law abiding, if that's what you'd do.

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The shooter could be anywhere by now.

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Are locked armories a possibility? Training yearly like Switzerland? I understand the American urge to be able to form up in citizen armies in an emergency. Other than that....

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^ Along with accidentally revealing that they probably wouldn't pass a mental health screening, with that paranoid-delusional business about gun confiscation.

It's not based on reality. How many guns did Obama confiscate? None. Yet you were howling this same nonsense from the rooftops back then too.

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Anonymous wrote:Are locked armories a possibility? Training yearly like Switzerland? I understand the American urge to be able to form up in citizen armies in an emergency. Other than that....

Yes, "training" is the answer! These untrained mass shooters really need to raise their game. And I like locked armories, too, maybe in combination with some "common sense" "gun safety" "measures."

"Today, it is estimated that there are over 20 million AR-15 rifles in the U.S." But we need more! Don't change anything. All is well!

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Anonymous wrote:Are locked armories a possibility? Training yearly like Switzerland? I understand the American urge to be able to form up in citizen armies in an emergency. Other than that....

But first we need to find some way to deal with the weird fetishization around AR-15s that's going on. And the 2A defenders behave almost like spoiled toddlers, thrashing around on the Toys R Us carpet yelling "no no no! I want a BIG gun like the army man in the movie!"

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Anonymous wrote:A doctor whose team is treating victims of Wednesday's mass shooting in Maine described the destructive nature of the bullets used in the rampage, saying that seeing their impact was "sobering."

"This was the first time that I'd actually taken care of someone with high-velocity gunshot wounds," Dr. Richard King, chief of trauma at Central Maine Medical Center, told CBS News on Friday. "I'd read about them ... but to actually see them in person and see the destructive ability of those rounds was really quite sobering."

"Most, if not all, of our patients had at least one of those really severe wounds," he said. "Absolutely destructive. Complete destruction of the surrounding tissue is really, really quite something."

This is like click bait to these gun nuts. They just looooooove to read something like this. Makes them feel all tingly inside.

Yup. They call it 'stopping power'.