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+1. I think Nottingham makes sense given it’s low enrollment but I’d like to hear more about WHY APS thinks this needs to be done. Let’s hear about these renovations. |
Are the entitled Nottingham parents going to claim the renos don't need to take place? That the poor brown kids in crumbling buildings with HVAC that doesn't work can just ride it out? That won't be a good look at all. |
I don’t think that paying taxes for the public school and also paying private school tuition is “having your cake and eating it too.” If anything we should thank those families that are opening up seats while also paying taxes. |
Didn’t someone already guess that it’s Jamestown that needs HVAC upgrades? No poor kids there. |
Aren’t they doing a study of all the buildings to figure this out? I vaguely remember them talking about needing to do an inventory of like a year ago. Did that ever pan out? |
+1. Those wealthy families are entitled to a free and appropriate public education whenever they want it, even if it means diverting resources from the less well off. School aren’t a welfare program, contrary to popular belief. COVID was such a strange thing and APS’s response so botched, there’s no way to say with certainty what’s happening when things return to “normal.” The kids are here, that’s all I know. Empty nesters are cashing out, and single childless folks aren’t spending $1.2m+ to move to NW for the walkability, nightlife, and good commutes. |
This sounds just like the APEs. I remember APE demanding open schools now because they were entitled to it because of their tax dollars. It is having your cake and eating it too if you flee the public, causing enrollment to decline, but you want that school to sit there half empty in case you decide to return. Seems like a very high correlation between the people complaining about Notting closing and APE. If you really cared about your tax dollars being well spent, how can APS justify keeping open an underenrolled school? |
Wealthy kids are entitled to a public education on demand, but no one is taking that away. It will just be at Tuckahoe or Discovery instead of Nottingham. They can do that. |
| Does anyone know if or where APS shares maximum capacity for each school? The only thing I’ve seen is that map on ArlNow that put the ranges between 85% utilization (in the north) and 122% (if I remember right) in the south - with lots of variation in between. But idk how those numbers were created. |
I don’t think that’s the only demographic leaving for private post-Covid. There are lots of families enrolled in Catholic school and other placements that are less expensive than the so-called “prestige schools” but still solid schools where kids are getting educated. It’s a larger group of parents leaving for private. The public schools (not just APS) failed a lot of students during Covid. I’m not here to litigate the wisdom of the decisions that were made. But we can’t ignore that many students were not well-served. And we are still feeling the downstream consequences. It’s not just law partners looking for prestige. It’s a lot of people trying to do right by their kids in the best way they know how. |
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Nottingham had 20 more kids than APS projected they would last year in 2022 and even with that they STILL only have 391 kids at the school! The school is currently operating at 64% capacity when you include trailer capacity and 85% capacity when you don't, and those seem to be the lowest numbers in the county right now. (Innovation is also low but it just opened in 2021; the only other schools approaching Nottingham's numbers are Title 1 schools.) Meanwhile, nearby Discovery and Taylor are also operating at only 81% and 70% of capacity when you include trailers (and 81% and 86% when you do not). https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Enrollment-Management-Plan-2023-Final.pdf
Listening to some of the Nottingham parents on here is eye opening. I will just say that I really appreciate the rare Nottingham parent in here saying this is not great but they can do it for the good of the community. |
| Not wanting your school to be shut down doesn’t sound very “entitled” to me. Any of us would be upset to get this news, even if APS has a legitimate need for a swing school and somebody’s facility needs to be closed to serve that purpose. Any other school communities want to volunteer their school? If not, does it make those communities “entitled”? Of course not. |
Which shouldn’t even be allowed. It’s a public school district. There shouldn’t even be fancy option schools. But if there are, you shouldn’t be able to win the lottery twice. Let more kids have a chance to experience these schools. |
The comments are eye opening. We moved north a few years ago and we’re shocked how out of touch the far north crowd (Jamestown Discovery Nottingham) is with the rest of the County. Loved the comment on her that Nottingham should just be allowed to be small because that’s just better. As if other school communities wouldn’t like that too. Clueless and out of touch at best. Entitled and selfish at worst. That’s these neighborhoods. |
It is bizarre to include trailers in a school's capacity! Is that what APS is doing? That is F'ed up gamesmanship. We could put 20 trailers at Nottingham and call it at 10% capacity. |