APS Closing Nottingham

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Anonymous wrote:Only 2 kindergarten classes? Only 2 4th grades classes and most other grades are at 3 classes? I was falling for the Nottingham hysteria on here until I saw that.

Using the school for swing space might make sense but APS needs to show its full hand. What’s the plan? Who needs to move there?


+1. I think Nottingham makes sense given it’s low enrollment but I’d like to hear more about WHY APS thinks this needs to be done. Let’s hear about these renovations.
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Anonymous wrote:Only 2 kindergarten classes? Only 2 4th grades classes and most other grades are at 3 classes? I was falling for the Nottingham hysteria on here until I saw that.

Using the school for swing space might make sense but APS needs to show its full hand. What’s the plan? Who needs to move there?


+1. I think Nottingham makes sense given it’s low enrollment but I’d like to hear more about WHY APS thinks this needs to be done. Let’s hear about these renovations.


Are the entitled Nottingham parents going to claim the renos don't need to take place? That the poor brown kids in crumbling buildings with HVAC that doesn't work can just ride it out? That won't be a good look at all.
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Anonymous wrote:First they overcrowded Glebe
And I did not speak out
Because I didn't have kids there and so eff that.
Then they repurposed McKinley
And I did not speak out
and in fact was a little grateful over it because better them than us.
Then they came for Nottingham
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
and in fact for some reason people don't seem to like me that much and they're starting to get on my nerves


It's funny because if Nottingham hadn't been so vocal about turning away kids from other schools before because they were oh so crowded, they might not be underenrolled now. But noooooo, like always the Nottingham moms and dads were all: FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!

Everyone else is really done with Nottingham's Thunderdome antics. Reading some of the terrible "I'm a lawyer but have no experience with this kind of law" takes posted here is hysterical -- you guys are too much. Look at this this way, Nottingham: This is actually an opportunity for you, since your school isn't being scrapped, it's being given an extension. If enrollment numbers in your area go back up after covid, like you have been saying they will when folks return from private, then Nottingham will turn back into a local elementary in several years after the renovations. If not, and if you've been wrong about the numbers, then let's see what this experiment shows re whether the school is really needed as a local elementary.


Nottingham was overcrowded. Significantly so, and for some time. So overcrowded that we spent hundreds of millions of dollars on new elementary schools nearby. Now, less than a decade later, we are shutting down Nottingham because oops, we didn’t need that space after all.

Tell me- did the school board screw up then, or is it screwing up now? Because no rational district spends hundreds of millions of dollars to create new schools that aren’t needed. Have things changed so permanently and remarkably after COVID that we need to completely change course? If so, why aren’t we looking at that?

I don’t trust their projection data. Their confidence in it, despite being repeatedly wrong and it having the same sort of limitations that caused them to be caught flat footed in the 2010s, is very concerning.

I can see few people share this concern when it comes to sticking it to the Nottingham community. I don’t like being surrounded by idiots, and for that reason I’m looking toward the exits. Enjoy the bond service on those hundred million dollar schools.


I think it’s a little unfair to blame the school board for building a new school when it was clearly needed. (Although I do blame them for building clearly over the top fancy ones). No one could have predicted the pandemic/the resulting learning loss and exodus to private. The fact now is that APS doesn’t need an elementary school there now. If in 10 years an elementary school is needed, then great, the building is there and APS can reopen it.

Although, my prediction is that the demographics in that neighborhood have permanently changed. No 2 government employees can buy a house there like they could 20-30 years ago. And when people buy 2.5 to 3 million houses, they tend to go private.


It’s insane that APS is just completely ignoring the private school exodus in the context of these seating questions. Why? Why does no one look at it? Why aren’t we spending some of this time money and energy on really understanding the numbers instead of relying on the incompetent APS staff who have a demonstrable record of absolutely blowing there calls?


What do you want them to do with those numbers? Seems like you want them to assume they will all come back. Even if they do, they aren't coming back at the same grade levels as when they left....they're moving up and out of elementary. So APS still wouldn't have a practical way to accurately account for any exodus or for any subsequent maybe/maybe not returns. If you think it's so easy and essential, you could volunteer your precious time and talents and gather that information and make the predictions for them.


Some of the people complaining left for private school, but they also want their public option there and waiting for them if they decide to come back.

They gave up on public, but they want their cake and to eat it too.


I don’t think that paying taxes for the public school and also paying private school tuition is “having your cake and eating it too.” If anything we should thank those families that are opening up seats while also paying taxes.
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Anonymous wrote:Only 2 kindergarten classes? Only 2 4th grades classes and most other grades are at 3 classes? I was falling for the Nottingham hysteria on here until I saw that.

Using the school for swing space might make sense but APS needs to show its full hand. What’s the plan? Who needs to move there?


+1. I think Nottingham makes sense given it’s low enrollment but I’d like to hear more about WHY APS thinks this needs to be done. Let’s hear about these renovations.


Are the entitled Nottingham parents going to claim the renos don't need to take place? That the poor brown kids in crumbling buildings with HVAC that doesn't work can just ride it out? That won't be a good look at all.


Didn’t someone already guess that it’s Jamestown that needs HVAC upgrades? No poor kids there.
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Anonymous wrote:Only 2 kindergarten classes? Only 2 4th grades classes and most other grades are at 3 classes? I was falling for the Nottingham hysteria on here until I saw that.

Using the school for swing space might make sense but APS needs to show its full hand. What’s the plan? Who needs to move there?


+1. I think Nottingham makes sense given it’s low enrollment but I’d like to hear more about WHY APS thinks this needs to be done. Let’s hear about these renovations.


Are the entitled Nottingham parents going to claim the renos don't need to take place? That the poor brown kids in crumbling buildings with HVAC that doesn't work can just ride it out? That won't be a good look at all.


Didn’t someone already guess that it’s Jamestown that needs HVAC upgrades? No poor kids there.
Aren’t they doing a study of all the buildings to figure this out? I vaguely remember them talking about needing to do an inventory of like a year ago. Did that ever pan out?
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Anonymous wrote:First they overcrowded Glebe
And I did not speak out
Because I didn't have kids there and so eff that.
Then they repurposed McKinley
And I did not speak out
and in fact was a little grateful over it because better them than us.
Then they came for Nottingham
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
and in fact for some reason people don't seem to like me that much and they're starting to get on my nerves


It's funny because if Nottingham hadn't been so vocal about turning away kids from other schools before because they were oh so crowded, they might not be underenrolled now. But noooooo, like always the Nottingham moms and dads were all: FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!

Everyone else is really done with Nottingham's Thunderdome antics. Reading some of the terrible "I'm a lawyer but have no experience with this kind of law" takes posted here is hysterical -- you guys are too much. Look at this this way, Nottingham: This is actually an opportunity for you, since your school isn't being scrapped, it's being given an extension. If enrollment numbers in your area go back up after covid, like you have been saying they will when folks return from private, then Nottingham will turn back into a local elementary in several years after the renovations. If not, and if you've been wrong about the numbers, then let's see what this experiment shows re whether the school is really needed as a local elementary.


Nottingham was overcrowded. Significantly so, and for some time. So overcrowded that we spent hundreds of millions of dollars on new elementary schools nearby. Now, less than a decade later, we are shutting down Nottingham because oops, we didn’t need that space after all.

Tell me- did the school board screw up then, or is it screwing up now? Because no rational district spends hundreds of millions of dollars to create new schools that aren’t needed. Have things changed so permanently and remarkably after COVID that we need to completely change course? If so, why aren’t we looking at that?

I don’t trust their projection data. Their confidence in it, despite being repeatedly wrong and it having the same sort of limitations that caused them to be caught flat footed in the 2010s, is very concerning.

I can see few people share this concern when it comes to sticking it to the Nottingham community. I don’t like being surrounded by idiots, and for that reason I’m looking toward the exits. Enjoy the bond service on those hundred million dollar schools.


I think it’s a little unfair to blame the school board for building a new school when it was clearly needed. (Although I do blame them for building clearly over the top fancy ones). No one could have predicted the pandemic/the resulting learning loss and exodus to private. The fact now is that APS doesn’t need an elementary school there now. If in 10 years an elementary school is needed, then great, the building is there and APS can reopen it.

Although, my prediction is that the demographics in that neighborhood have permanently changed. No 2 government employees can buy a house there like they could 20-30 years ago. And when people buy 2.5 to 3 million houses, they tend to go private.


It’s insane that APS is just completely ignoring the private school exodus in the context of these seating questions. Why? Why does no one look at it? Why aren’t we spending some of this time money and energy on really understanding the numbers instead of relying on the incompetent APS staff who have a demonstrable record of absolutely blowing there calls?


What do you want them to do with those numbers? Seems like you want them to assume they will all come back. Even if they do, they aren't coming back at the same grade levels as when they left....they're moving up and out of elementary. So APS still wouldn't have a practical way to accurately account for any exodus or for any subsequent maybe/maybe not returns. If you think it's so easy and essential, you could volunteer your precious time and talents and gather that information and make the predictions for them.


Some of the people complaining left for private school, but they also want their public option there and waiting for them if they decide to come back.

They gave up on public, but they want their cake and to eat it too.


I don’t think that paying taxes for the public school and also paying private school tuition is “having your cake and eating it too.” If anything we should thank those families that are opening up seats while also paying taxes.


+1. Those wealthy families are entitled to a free and appropriate public education whenever they want it, even if it means diverting resources from the less well off. School aren’t a welfare program, contrary to popular belief.

COVID was such a strange thing and APS’s response so botched, there’s no way to say with certainty what’s happening when things return to “normal.” The kids are here, that’s all I know. Empty nesters are cashing out, and single childless folks aren’t spending $1.2m+ to move to NW for the walkability, nightlife, and good commutes.
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Anonymous wrote:First they overcrowded Glebe
And I did not speak out
Because I didn't have kids there and so eff that.
Then they repurposed McKinley
And I did not speak out
and in fact was a little grateful over it because better them than us.
Then they came for Nottingham
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
and in fact for some reason people don't seem to like me that much and they're starting to get on my nerves


It's funny because if Nottingham hadn't been so vocal about turning away kids from other schools before because they were oh so crowded, they might not be underenrolled now. But noooooo, like always the Nottingham moms and dads were all: FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!

Everyone else is really done with Nottingham's Thunderdome antics. Reading some of the terrible "I'm a lawyer but have no experience with this kind of law" takes posted here is hysterical -- you guys are too much. Look at this this way, Nottingham: This is actually an opportunity for you, since your school isn't being scrapped, it's being given an extension. If enrollment numbers in your area go back up after covid, like you have been saying they will when folks return from private, then Nottingham will turn back into a local elementary in several years after the renovations. If not, and if you've been wrong about the numbers, then let's see what this experiment shows re whether the school is really needed as a local elementary.


Nottingham was overcrowded. Significantly so, and for some time. So overcrowded that we spent hundreds of millions of dollars on new elementary schools nearby. Now, less than a decade later, we are shutting down Nottingham because oops, we didn’t need that space after all.

Tell me- did the school board screw up then, or is it screwing up now? Because no rational district spends hundreds of millions of dollars to create new schools that aren’t needed. Have things changed so permanently and remarkably after COVID that we need to completely change course? If so, why aren’t we looking at that?

I don’t trust their projection data. Their confidence in it, despite being repeatedly wrong and it having the same sort of limitations that caused them to be caught flat footed in the 2010s, is very concerning.

I can see few people share this concern when it comes to sticking it to the Nottingham community. I don’t like being surrounded by idiots, and for that reason I’m looking toward the exits. Enjoy the bond service on those hundred million dollar schools.


I think it’s a little unfair to blame the school board for building a new school when it was clearly needed. (Although I do blame them for building clearly over the top fancy ones). No one could have predicted the pandemic/the resulting learning loss and exodus to private. The fact now is that APS doesn’t need an elementary school there now. If in 10 years an elementary school is needed, then great, the building is there and APS can reopen it.

Although, my prediction is that the demographics in that neighborhood have permanently changed. No 2 government employees can buy a house there like they could 20-30 years ago. And when people buy 2.5 to 3 million houses, they tend to go private.


It’s insane that APS is just completely ignoring the private school exodus in the context of these seating questions. Why? Why does no one look at it? Why aren’t we spending some of this time money and energy on really understanding the numbers instead of relying on the incompetent APS staff who have a demonstrable record of absolutely blowing there calls?


What do you want them to do with those numbers? Seems like you want them to assume they will all come back. Even if they do, they aren't coming back at the same grade levels as when they left....they're moving up and out of elementary. So APS still wouldn't have a practical way to accurately account for any exodus or for any subsequent maybe/maybe not returns. If you think it's so easy and essential, you could volunteer your precious time and talents and gather that information and make the predictions for them.


Some of the people complaining left for private school, but they also want their public option there and waiting for them if they decide to come back.

They gave up on public, but they want their cake and to eat it too.


I don’t think that paying taxes for the public school and also paying private school tuition is “having your cake and eating it too.” If anything we should thank those families that are opening up seats while also paying taxes.


This sounds just like the APEs. I remember APE demanding open schools now because they were entitled to it because of their tax dollars.

It is having your cake and eating it too if you flee the public, causing enrollment to decline, but you want that school to sit there half empty in case you decide to return.

Seems like a very high correlation between the people complaining about Notting closing and APE. If you really cared about your tax dollars being well spent, how can APS justify keeping open an underenrolled school?

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Anonymous wrote:First they overcrowded Glebe
And I did not speak out
Because I didn't have kids there and so eff that.
Then they repurposed McKinley
And I did not speak out
and in fact was a little grateful over it because better them than us.
Then they came for Nottingham
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
and in fact for some reason people don't seem to like me that much and they're starting to get on my nerves


It's funny because if Nottingham hadn't been so vocal about turning away kids from other schools before because they were oh so crowded, they might not be underenrolled now. But noooooo, like always the Nottingham moms and dads were all: FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!

Everyone else is really done with Nottingham's Thunderdome antics. Reading some of the terrible "I'm a lawyer but have no experience with this kind of law" takes posted here is hysterical -- you guys are too much. Look at this this way, Nottingham: This is actually an opportunity for you, since your school isn't being scrapped, it's being given an extension. If enrollment numbers in your area go back up after covid, like you have been saying they will when folks return from private, then Nottingham will turn back into a local elementary in several years after the renovations. If not, and if you've been wrong about the numbers, then let's see what this experiment shows re whether the school is really needed as a local elementary.


Nottingham was overcrowded. Significantly so, and for some time. So overcrowded that we spent hundreds of millions of dollars on new elementary schools nearby. Now, less than a decade later, we are shutting down Nottingham because oops, we didn’t need that space after all.

Tell me- did the school board screw up then, or is it screwing up now? Because no rational district spends hundreds of millions of dollars to create new schools that aren’t needed. Have things changed so permanently and remarkably after COVID that we need to completely change course? If so, why aren’t we looking at that?

I don’t trust their projection data. Their confidence in it, despite being repeatedly wrong and it having the same sort of limitations that caused them to be caught flat footed in the 2010s, is very concerning.

I can see few people share this concern when it comes to sticking it to the Nottingham community. I don’t like being surrounded by idiots, and for that reason I’m looking toward the exits. Enjoy the bond service on those hundred million dollar schools.


I think it’s a little unfair to blame the school board for building a new school when it was clearly needed. (Although I do blame them for building clearly over the top fancy ones). No one could have predicted the pandemic/the resulting learning loss and exodus to private. The fact now is that APS doesn’t need an elementary school there now. If in 10 years an elementary school is needed, then great, the building is there and APS can reopen it.

Although, my prediction is that the demographics in that neighborhood have permanently changed. No 2 government employees can buy a house there like they could 20-30 years ago. And when people buy 2.5 to 3 million houses, they tend to go private.


It’s insane that APS is just completely ignoring the private school exodus in the context of these seating questions. Why? Why does no one look at it? Why aren’t we spending some of this time money and energy on really understanding the numbers instead of relying on the incompetent APS staff who have a demonstrable record of absolutely blowing there calls?


What do you want them to do with those numbers? Seems like you want them to assume they will all come back. Even if they do, they aren't coming back at the same grade levels as when they left....they're moving up and out of elementary. So APS still wouldn't have a practical way to accurately account for any exodus or for any subsequent maybe/maybe not returns. If you think it's so easy and essential, you could volunteer your precious time and talents and gather that information and make the predictions for them.


Some of the people complaining left for private school, but they also want their public option there and waiting for them if they decide to come back.

They gave up on public, but they want their cake and to eat it too.


I don’t think that paying taxes for the public school and also paying private school tuition is “having your cake and eating it too.” If anything we should thank those families that are opening up seats while also paying taxes.


+1. Those wealthy families are entitled to a free and appropriate public education whenever they want it, even if it means diverting resources from the less well off. School aren’t a welfare program, contrary to popular belief.

COVID was such a strange thing and APS’s response so botched, there’s no way to say with certainty what’s happening when things return to “normal.” The kids are here, that’s all I know. Empty nesters are cashing out, and single childless folks aren’t spending $1.2m+ to move to NW for the walkability, nightlife, and good commutes.




Wealthy kids are entitled to a public education on demand, but no one is taking that away. It will just be at Tuckahoe or Discovery instead of Nottingham. They can do that.
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Does anyone know if or where APS shares maximum capacity for each school? The only thing I’ve seen is that map on ArlNow that put the ranges between 85% utilization (in the north) and 122% (if I remember right) in the south - with lots of variation in between. But idk how those numbers were created.
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Anonymous wrote:First they overcrowded Glebe
And I did not speak out
Because I didn't have kids there and so eff that.
Then they repurposed McKinley
And I did not speak out
and in fact was a little grateful over it because better them than us.
Then they came for Nottingham
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
and in fact for some reason people don't seem to like me that much and they're starting to get on my nerves


It's funny because if Nottingham hadn't been so vocal about turning away kids from other schools before because they were oh so crowded, they might not be underenrolled now. But noooooo, like always the Nottingham moms and dads were all: FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!

Everyone else is really done with Nottingham's Thunderdome antics. Reading some of the terrible "I'm a lawyer but have no experience with this kind of law" takes posted here is hysterical -- you guys are too much. Look at this this way, Nottingham: This is actually an opportunity for you, since your school isn't being scrapped, it's being given an extension. If enrollment numbers in your area go back up after covid, like you have been saying they will when folks return from private, then Nottingham will turn back into a local elementary in several years after the renovations. If not, and if you've been wrong about the numbers, then let's see what this experiment shows re whether the school is really needed as a local elementary.


Nottingham was overcrowded. Significantly so, and for some time. So overcrowded that we spent hundreds of millions of dollars on new elementary schools nearby. Now, less than a decade later, we are shutting down Nottingham because oops, we didn’t need that space after all.

Tell me- did the school board screw up then, or is it screwing up now? Because no rational district spends hundreds of millions of dollars to create new schools that aren’t needed. Have things changed so permanently and remarkably after COVID that we need to completely change course? If so, why aren’t we looking at that?

I don’t trust their projection data. Their confidence in it, despite being repeatedly wrong and it having the same sort of limitations that caused them to be caught flat footed in the 2010s, is very concerning.

I can see few people share this concern when it comes to sticking it to the Nottingham community. I don’t like being surrounded by idiots, and for that reason I’m looking toward the exits. Enjoy the bond service on those hundred million dollar schools.


I think it’s a little unfair to blame the school board for building a new school when it was clearly needed. (Although I do blame them for building clearly over the top fancy ones). No one could have predicted the pandemic/the resulting learning loss and exodus to private. The fact now is that APS doesn’t need an elementary school there now. If in 10 years an elementary school is needed, then great, the building is there and APS can reopen it.

Although, my prediction is that the demographics in that neighborhood have permanently changed. No 2 government employees can buy a house there like they could 20-30 years ago. And when people buy 2.5 to 3 million houses, they tend to go private.


It’s insane that APS is just completely ignoring the private school exodus in the context of these seating questions. Why? Why does no one look at it? Why aren’t we spending some of this time money and energy on really understanding the numbers instead of relying on the incompetent APS staff who have a demonstrable record of absolutely blowing there calls?


I’m not even sure what you are asking for. You want to go around a $$$ neighborhood and ask all the big law partners why they aren’t using public schools? I mean, I can already tell you it’s prestige and getting their children a leg up in the world. And APS has enough problems educating the children they do have (and the many, many who were left behind during Covid) without begging some to come back.


I don’t think that’s the only demographic leaving for private post-Covid. There are lots of families enrolled in Catholic school and other placements that are less expensive than the so-called “prestige schools” but still solid schools where kids are getting educated. It’s a larger group of parents leaving for private. The public schools (not just APS) failed a lot of students during Covid. I’m not here to litigate the wisdom of the decisions that were made. But we can’t ignore that many students were not well-served. And we are still feeling the downstream consequences. It’s not just law partners looking for prestige. It’s a lot of people trying to do right by their kids in the best way they know how.
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Nottingham had 20 more kids than APS projected they would last year in 2022 and even with that they STILL only have 391 kids at the school! The school is currently operating at 64% capacity when you include trailer capacity and 85% capacity when you don't, and those seem to be the lowest numbers in the county right now. (Innovation is also low but it just opened in 2021; the only other schools approaching Nottingham's numbers are Title 1 schools.) Meanwhile, nearby Discovery and Taylor are also operating at only 81% and 70% of capacity when you include trailers (and 81% and 86% when you do not). https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Enrollment-Management-Plan-2023-Final.pdf

Listening to some of the Nottingham parents on here is eye opening. I will just say that I really appreciate the rare Nottingham parent in here saying this is not great but they can do it for the good of the community.
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Not wanting your school to be shut down doesn’t sound very “entitled” to me. Any of us would be upset to get this news, even if APS has a legitimate need for a swing school and somebody’s facility needs to be closed to serve that purpose. Any other school communities want to volunteer their school? If not, does it make those communities “entitled”? Of course not.
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Anonymous wrote:Lol folks have been hating on ATS and HB for decades. My favorite are families whose kids attend both even though the school’s’ philosophies couldn’t be more different.


Which shouldn’t even be allowed. It’s a public school district. There shouldn’t even be fancy option schools. But if there are, you shouldn’t be able to win the lottery twice. Let more kids have a chance to experience these schools.
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Anonymous wrote:Nottingham had 20 more kids than APS projected they would last year in 2022 and even with that they STILL only have 391 kids at the school! The school is currently operating at 64% capacity when you include trailer capacity and 85% capacity when you don't, and those seem to be the lowest numbers in the county right now. (Innovation is also low but it just opened in 2021; the only other schools approaching Nottingham's numbers are Title 1 schools.) Meanwhile, nearby Discovery and Taylor are also operating at only 81% and 70% of capacity when you include trailers (and 81% and 86% when you do not). https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Enrollment-Management-Plan-2023-Final.pdf

Listening to some of the Nottingham parents on here is eye opening. I will just say that I really appreciate the rare Nottingham parent in here saying this is not great but they can do it for the good of the community.


The comments are eye opening. We moved north a few years ago and we’re shocked how out of touch the far north crowd (Jamestown Discovery Nottingham) is with the rest of the County. Loved the comment on her that Nottingham should just be allowed to be small because that’s just better. As if other school communities wouldn’t like that too. Clueless and out of touch at best. Entitled and selfish at worst. That’s these neighborhoods.
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Anonymous wrote:Nottingham had 20 more kids than APS projected they would last year in 2022 and even with that they STILL only have 391 kids at the school! The school is currently operating at 64% capacity when you include trailer capacity and 85% capacity when you don't, and those seem to be the lowest numbers in the county right now. (Innovation is also low but it just opened in 2021; the only other schools approaching Nottingham's numbers are Title 1 schools.) Meanwhile, nearby Discovery and Taylor are also operating at only 81% and 70% of capacity when you include trailers (and 81% and 86% when you do not). https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Enrollment-Management-Plan-2023-Final.pdf

Listening to some of the Nottingham parents on here is eye opening. I will just say that I really appreciate the rare Nottingham parent in here saying this is not great but they can do it for the good of the community.


It is bizarre to include trailers in a school's capacity! Is that what APS is doing? That is F'ed up gamesmanship. We could put 20 trailers at Nottingham and call it at 10% capacity.
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