What are the most common ways women waste their 20s?

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Anonymous wrote:37 yo man here. Never married. Ex military officer and now run a successful DoD contracting business. I’m ready to settle down before I’m too old for raising kids. All I want is a younger woman (in her mid 20s) who is down to build a family. Don’t care for her career or education. The 30+ women I have dated just didn’t click for me.

Sounds like you wasted your 20s and now you're way too picky.

I see the attempted ironic snark. This dude was probably serving his country in his 20's, I don't know if I would call that "wasting his 20's." And also different timeline for men vs. women.

Talk about irony!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Women want sexy, nice, wealthy, educated, ambitious, successful handsome and loyal guys who doesn't argue about division of chores, even if they are earning 70% of the household income.

Men want beautiful models who happen to work as physicians and have great household management skills.

Wrong. Men want attractive women who are pleasant to be around and enjoy having sex. Your list of what women want is spot-on though.

Ambitious men always wanted trophy wives, trophy meant beautiful and hot but now it means also having an equally impressive career and income for securing power couple status.

LOL.

Is this a DC thing?

It's a DCUM thing.

Well I’ve seen this in my Wall Street acquaintances. They do want beautiful wives who are (expressly or implicitly) willing to put their careers on the back burner. But having an accomplished wife/GF/fiance is actually seen as desirable. My brother told me at one point “the ideal wife would be an artist who went to Brown who you marry then stays home in Scarsdale.” They absolutely do not want (or could not cope with) a woman who had an actual career.

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Anonymous wrote:Women want sexy, nice, wealthy, educated, ambitious, successful handsome and loyal guys who doesn't argue about division of chores, even if they are earning 70% of the household income.

Men want beautiful models who happen to work as physicians and have great household management skills.

Wrong. Men want attractive women who are pleasant to be around and enjoy having sex. Your list of what women want is spot-on though.

Ambitious men always wanted trophy wives, trophy meant beautiful and hot but now it means also having an equally impressive career and income for securing power couple status.

LOL.

Is this a DC thing?

It's a DCUM thing.

Well I’ve seen this in my Wall Street acquaintances. They do want beautiful wives who are (expressly or implicitly) willing to put their careers on the back burner. But having an accomplished wife/GF/fiance is actually seen as desirable. My brother told me at one point “the ideal wife would be an artist who went to Brown who you marry then stays home in Scarsdale.” They absolutely do not want (or could not cope with) a woman who had an actual career.

I should add - the upshot of what my brother said is that they want a beautiful, intelligent wife (to be a “trophy” at dinner and pass good genes along) BUT she also needs to be in the pink collar ghetto so they can be sure that she will stay home.

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Anonymous wrote:Women want sexy, nice, wealthy, educated, ambitious, successful handsome and loyal guys who doesn't argue about division of chores, even if they are earning 70% of the household income.

Men want beautiful models who happen to work as physicians and have great household management skills.

Wrong. Men want attractive women who are pleasant to be around and enjoy having sex. Your list of what women want is spot-on though.

Ambitious men always wanted trophy wives, trophy meant beautiful and hot but now it means also having an equally impressive career and income for securing power couple status.

LOL.

Is this a DC thing?

It's a DCUM thing.

Well I’ve seen this in my Wall Street acquaintances. They do want beautiful wives who are (expressly or implicitly) willing to put their careers on the back burner. But having an accomplished wife/GF/fiance is actually seen as desirable. My brother told me at one point “the ideal wife would be an artist who went to Brown who you marry then stays home in Scarsdale.” They absolutely do not want (or could not cope with) a woman who had an actual career.

Ideal wife is just that: an ideal.

My ideal husband will make 5 million dollars a year and only work 20 hours a week. ( and I would blow away the tiniest chance I'd have of marrying into an already wealthy family because I would never sign a prenup).

But when it comes down to it, something gotta give.

And for most wealthy men, they will pick the beautiful woman without a career over the so so looking one with a career. The power couple thing is for men still trying to make it.

Now proximity to powerful men at work/ school give powerful women a better shot than those with no career to land these guys. But the guys don't care either way. You caught his eye because you are beautiful. You just happen to be smart too. He will respect your career because it is important to you, and he loves you.

[Anonymous]

Did a depressing exercise yesterday. For context I'm a single 33 yo female. More on the introverted side. I consider myself a 6 or 7. The kind of girl that didn't get much attention during high school and had one basic boyfriend throughout college. Not much dating success during working years. I desperately want to have kids. I've been having weird panic attacks where I see myself dying alone.

I thought about the kind of man I want. At least 6ft because my dad is tall and that's what I'm used to. Need to make $250k minimum. Decently masculine frame/build. Educated because I have two masters. Don't care too much about face as long as he is nice. Can't have his own kid already because I don't want to deal with another woman's kids.

Anyways, I tried to imagine what such a man would want and I can't imagine him picking me. Maybe if I move to Tennessee or something but I don't know how many guys with trucks and masculine energy are making $250k.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Women want sexy, nice, wealthy, educated, ambitious, successful handsome and loyal guys who doesn't argue about division of chores, even if they are earning 70% of the household income.

Men want beautiful models who happen to work as physicians and have great household management skills.

Wrong. Men want attractive women who are pleasant to be around and enjoy having sex. Your list of what women want is spot-on though.

Ambitious men always wanted trophy wives, trophy meant beautiful and hot but now it means also having an equally impressive career and income for securing power couple status.

LOL.

Is this a DC thing?

It's a DCUM thing.

Well I’ve seen this in my Wall Street acquaintances. They do want beautiful wives who are (expressly or implicitly) willing to put their careers on the back burner. But having an accomplished wife/GF/fiance is actually seen as desirable. My brother told me at one point “the ideal wife would be an artist who went to Brown who you marry then stays home in Scarsdale.” They absolutely do not want (or could not cope with) a woman who had an actual career.

Ideal wife is just that: an ideal.

My ideal husband will make 5 million dollars a year and only work 20 hours a week. ( and I would blow away the tiniest chance I'd have of marrying into an already wealthy family because I would never sign a prenup).

But when it comes down to it, something gotta give.

And for most wealthy men, they will pick the beautiful woman without a career over the so so looking one with a career. The power couple thing is for men still trying to make it.

Now proximity to powerful men at work/ school give powerful women a better shot than those with no career to land these guys. But the guys don't care either way. You caught his eye because you are beautiful. You just happen to be smart too. He will respect your career because it is important to you, and he loves you.

I don’t think you get what I’m saying. These Wall Street guys expressly discuss how they do not want their wives to have careers. They would pick a less beautiful woman who would stay at home over a beautiful woman who made it clear that her career came first and she expected then to step back or be equal partners at home. This is their actual plan. They are fundamentally sexist d*cks and totally upfront about it. So yeah, if you’re a woman in your 20s, beautiful, intelligent- it is an option in NYC to target a Wall Street bro and you would be “wasting” your 20s if you didn’t do it then. But buyer beware, as they say. In your 30s your world will be very small and built entirely around consumption.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did a depressing exercise yesterday. For context I'm a single 33 yo female. More on the introverted side. I consider myself a 6 or 7. The kind of girl that didn't get much attention during high school and had one basic boyfriend throughout college. Not much dating success during working years. I desperately want to have kids. I've been having weird panic attacks where I see myself dying alone.

I thought about the kind of man I want. At least 6ft because my dad is tall and that's what I'm used to. Need to make $250k minimum. Decently masculine frame/build. Educated because I have two masters. Don't care too much about face as long as he is nice. Can't have his own kid already because I don't want to deal with another woman's kids.

Anyways, I tried to imagine what such a man would want and I can't imagine him picking me. Maybe if I move to Tennessee or something but I don't know how many guys with trucks and masculine energy are making $250k.

Troll

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did a depressing exercise yesterday. For context I'm a single 33 yo female. More on the introverted side. I consider myself a 6 or 7. The kind of girl that didn't get much attention during high school and had one basic boyfriend throughout college. Not much dating success during working years. I desperately want to have kids. I've been having weird panic attacks where I see myself dying alone.

I thought about the kind of man I want. At least 6ft because my dad is tall and that's what I'm used to. Need to make $250k minimum. Decently masculine frame/build. Educated because I have two masters. Don't care too much about face as long as he is nice. Can't have his own kid already because I don't want to deal with another woman's kids.

Anyways, I tried to imagine what such a man would want and I can't imagine him picking me. Maybe if I move to Tennessee or something but I don't know how many guys with trucks and masculine energy are making $250k.

I absolutely know women in their 30s who want to settle down and have trouble finding someone who meets their standards. (I know men like this, too.) But none of them sound like this. This is a weird incel fantasy.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Women want sexy, nice, wealthy, educated, ambitious, successful handsome and loyal guys who doesn't argue about division of chores, even if they are earning 70% of the household income.

Men want beautiful models who happen to work as physicians and have great household management skills.

Wrong. Men want attractive women who are pleasant to be around and enjoy having sex. Your list of what women want is spot-on though.

Ambitious men always wanted trophy wives, trophy meant beautiful and hot but now it means also having an equally impressive career and income for securing power couple status.

LOL.

Is this a DC thing?

It's a DCUM thing.

Well I’ve seen this in my Wall Street acquaintances. They do want beautiful wives who are (expressly or implicitly) willing to put their careers on the back burner. But having an accomplished wife/GF/fiance is actually seen as desirable. My brother told me at one point “the ideal wife would be an artist who went to Brown who you marry then stays home in Scarsdale.” They absolutely do not want (or could not cope with) a woman who had an actual career.

Ideal wife is just that: an ideal.

My ideal husband will make 5 million dollars a year and only work 20 hours a week. ( and I would blow away the tiniest chance I'd have of marrying into an already wealthy family because I would never sign a prenup).

But when it comes down to it, something gotta give.

And for most wealthy men, they will pick the beautiful woman without a career over the so so looking one with a career. The power couple thing is for men still trying to make it.

Now proximity to powerful men at work/ school give powerful women a better shot than those with no career to land these guys. But the guys don't care either way. You caught his eye because you are beautiful. You just happen to be smart too. He will respect your career because it is important to you, and he loves you.

I don’t think you get what I’m saying. These Wall Street guys expressly discuss how they do not want their wives to have careers. They would pick a less beautiful woman who would stay at home over a beautiful woman who made it clear that her career came first and she expected then to step back or be equal partners at home. This is their actual plan. They are fundamentally sexist d*cks and totally upfront about it. So yeah, if you’re a woman in your 20s, beautiful, intelligent- it is an option in NYC to target a Wall Street bro and you would be “wasting” your 20s if you didn’t do it then. But buyer beware, as they say. In your 30s your world will be very small and built entirely around consumption.

Wish you had chimed in during that insane thread awhile back where a militant crazy was insisting that young rich successful men now only want successful wives because it’s the new status symbol. And accusing everyone who said otherwise as old and out of touch. In my experience these men want exactly what you just described.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did a depressing exercise yesterday. For context I'm a single 33 yo female. More on the introverted side. I consider myself a 6 or 7. The kind of girl that didn't get much attention during high school and had one basic boyfriend throughout college. Not much dating success during working years. I desperately want to have kids. I've been having weird panic attacks where I see myself dying alone.

I thought about the kind of man I want. At least 6ft because my dad is tall and that's what I'm used to. Need to make $250k minimum. Decently masculine frame/build. Educated because I have two masters. Don't care too much about face as long as he is nice. Can't have his own kid already because I don't want to deal with another woman's kids.

Anyways, I tried to imagine what such a man would want and I can't imagine him picking me. Maybe if I move to Tennessee or something but I don't know how many guys with trucks and masculine energy are making $250k.

Can you lower income a little bit? Say 150-200? It's easier to make that around here. 250k is a little on the higher side for a 35 year old man.

Most of us are 5s and 6s, and we did just fine. Many married in their 30s just like you want to.

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Anonymous wrote:Women want sexy, nice, wealthy, educated, ambitious, successful handsome and loyal guys who doesn't argue about division of chores, even if they are earning 70% of the household income.

Men want beautiful models who happen to work as physicians and have great household management skills.

Wrong. Men want attractive women who are pleasant to be around and enjoy having sex. Your list of what women want is spot-on though.

Ambitious men always wanted trophy wives, trophy meant beautiful and hot but now it means also having an equally impressive career and income for securing power couple status.

LOL.

Is this a DC thing?

It's a DCUM thing.

Well I’ve seen this in my Wall Street acquaintances. They do want beautiful wives who are (expressly or implicitly) willing to put their careers on the back burner. But having an accomplished wife/GF/fiance is actually seen as desirable. My brother told me at one point “the ideal wife would be an artist who went to Brown who you marry then stays home in Scarsdale.” They absolutely do not want (or could not cope with) a woman who had an actual career.

Ideal wife is just that: an ideal.

My ideal husband will make 5 million dollars a year and only work 20 hours a week. ( and I would blow away the tiniest chance I'd have of marrying into an already wealthy family because I would never sign a prenup).

But when it comes down to it, something gotta give.

And for most wealthy men, they will pick the beautiful woman without a career over the so so looking one with a career. The power couple thing is for men still trying to make it.

Now proximity to powerful men at work/ school give powerful women a better shot than those with no career to land these guys. But the guys don't care either way. You caught his eye because you are beautiful. You just happen to be smart too. He will respect your career because it is important to you, and he loves you.

I don’t think you get what I’m saying. These Wall Street guys expressly discuss how they do not want their wives to have careers. They would pick a less beautiful woman who would stay at home over a beautiful woman who made it clear that her career came first and she expected then to step back or be equal partners at home. This is their actual plan. They are fundamentally sexist d*cks and totally upfront about it. So yeah, if you’re a woman in your 20s, beautiful, intelligent- it is an option in NYC to target a Wall Street bro and you would be “wasting” your 20s if you didn’t do it then. But buyer beware, as they say. In your 30s your world will be very small and built entirely around consumption.

This does not necessarily have to be a bad thing.

If I were working 100 hours a week, I would want a spouse who would stay at home too.

One of the things I cherished about my DH was that he worked a 9-5. I wasn't sure if I wanted to go into big law/ consulting, and I was happy that if I married him and decided to go into big law/ consulting one of us will be readily available when the children needed us.

So are these mem just being practical? Some women like consumption, and they would complement these men.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did a depressing exercise yesterday. For context I'm a single 33 yo female. More on the introverted side. I consider myself a 6 or 7. The kind of girl that didn't get much attention during high school and had one basic boyfriend throughout college. Not much dating success during working years. I desperately want to have kids. I've been having weird panic attacks where I see myself dying alone.

I thought about the kind of man I want. At least 6ft because my dad is tall and that's what I'm used to. Need to make $250k minimum. Decently masculine frame/build. Educated because I have two masters. Don't care too much about face as long as he is nice. Can't have his own kid already because I don't want to deal with another woman's kids.

Anyways, I tried to imagine what such a man would want and I can't imagine him picking me. Maybe if I move to Tennessee or something but I don't know how many guys with trucks and masculine energy are making $250k.

A 33 y/o 6 who wants a 9. Okay. I can't understand you people with a list of requirements. Meet people, see if you like them. Don't carry around a mental checklist. It's hard to have sympathy for you people.

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Anonymous wrote:Women want sexy, nice, wealthy, educated, ambitious, successful handsome and loyal guys who doesn't argue about division of chores, even if they are earning 70% of the household income.

Men want beautiful models who happen to work as physicians and have great household management skills.

Wrong. Men want attractive women who are pleasant to be around and enjoy having sex. Your list of what women want is spot-on though.

Ambitious men always wanted trophy wives, trophy meant beautiful and hot but now it means also having an equally impressive career and income for securing power couple status.

LOL.

Is this a DC thing?

It's a DCUM thing.

Well I’ve seen this in my Wall Street acquaintances. They do want beautiful wives who are (expressly or implicitly) willing to put their careers on the back burner. But having an accomplished wife/GF/fiance is actually seen as desirable. My brother told me at one point “the ideal wife would be an artist who went to Brown who you marry then stays home in Scarsdale.” They absolutely do not want (or could not cope with) a woman who had an actual career.

Ideal wife is just that: an ideal.

My ideal husband will make 5 million dollars a year and only work 20 hours a week. ( and I would blow away the tiniest chance I'd have of marrying into an already wealthy family because I would never sign a prenup).

But when it comes down to it, something gotta give.

And for most wealthy men, they will pick the beautiful woman without a career over the so so looking one with a career. The power couple thing is for men still trying to make it.

Now proximity to powerful men at work/ school give powerful women a better shot than those with no career to land these guys. But the guys don't care either way. You caught his eye because you are beautiful. You just happen to be smart too. He will respect your career because it is important to you, and he loves you.

I don’t think you get what I’m saying. These Wall Street guys expressly discuss how they do not want their wives to have careers. They would pick a less beautiful woman who would stay at home over a beautiful woman who made it clear that her career came first and she expected then to step back or be equal partners at home. This is their actual plan. They are fundamentally sexist d*cks and totally upfront about it. So yeah, if you’re a woman in your 20s, beautiful, intelligent- it is an option in NYC to target a Wall Street bro and you would be “wasting” your 20s if you didn’t do it then. But buyer beware, as they say. In your 30s your world will be very small and built entirely around consumption.

Wish you had chimed in during that insane thread awhile back where a militant crazy was insisting that young rich successful men now only want successful wives because it’s the new status symbol. And accusing everyone who said otherwise as old and out of touch. In my experience these men want exactly what you just described.

Well, I am describing an especially regressive, especially d*ckish, especially rich, subset - Wall Street Bros. For “normal” guys with normal careers who want to have families and enjoy family life, yeah, I think the norm is to want an equal (or significant) financial partner.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Women want sexy, nice, wealthy, educated, ambitious, successful handsome and loyal guys who doesn't argue about division of chores, even if they are earning 70% of the household income.

Men want beautiful models who happen to work as physicians and have great household management skills.

Wrong. Men want attractive women who are pleasant to be around and enjoy having sex. Your list of what women want is spot-on though.

Ambitious men always wanted trophy wives, trophy meant beautiful and hot but now it means also having an equally impressive career and income for securing power couple status.

LOL.

Is this a DC thing?

It's a DCUM thing.

Well I’ve seen this in my Wall Street acquaintances. They do want beautiful wives who are (expressly or implicitly) willing to put their careers on the back burner. But having an accomplished wife/GF/fiance is actually seen as desirable. My brother told me at one point “the ideal wife would be an artist who went to Brown who you marry then stays home in Scarsdale.” They absolutely do not want (or could not cope with) a woman who had an actual career.

Ideal wife is just that: an ideal.

My ideal husband will make 5 million dollars a year and only work 20 hours a week. ( and I would blow away the tiniest chance I'd have of marrying into an already wealthy family because I would never sign a prenup).

But when it comes down to it, something gotta give.

And for most wealthy men, they will pick the beautiful woman without a career over the so so looking one with a career. The power couple thing is for men still trying to make it.

Now proximity to powerful men at work/ school give powerful women a better shot than those with no career to land these guys. But the guys don't care either way. You caught his eye because you are beautiful. You just happen to be smart too. He will respect your career because it is important to you, and he loves you.

I don’t think you get what I’m saying. These Wall Street guys expressly discuss how they do not want their wives to have careers. They would pick a less beautiful woman who would stay at home over a beautiful woman who made it clear that her career came first and she expected then to step back or be equal partners at home. This is their actual plan. They are fundamentally sexist d*cks and totally upfront about it. So yeah, if you’re a woman in your 20s, beautiful, intelligent- it is an option in NYC to target a Wall Street bro and you would be “wasting” your 20s if you didn’t do it then. But buyer beware, as they say. In your 30s your world will be very small and built entirely around consumption.

This does not necessarily have to be a bad thing.

If I were working 100 hours a week, I would want a spouse who would stay at home too.

One of the things I cherished about my DH was that he worked a 9-5. I wasn't sure if I wanted to go into big law/ consulting, and I was happy that if I married him and decided to go into big law/ consulting one of us will be readily available when the children needed us.

So are these mem just being practical? Some women like consumption, and they would complement these men.

I would never SAH. Too risky in the event of a divorce.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Women want sexy, nice, wealthy, educated, ambitious, successful handsome and loyal guys who doesn't argue about division of chores, even if they are earning 70% of the household income.

Men want beautiful models who happen to work as physicians and have great household management skills.

Wrong. Men want attractive women who are pleasant to be around and enjoy having sex. Your list of what women want is spot-on though.

Ambitious men always wanted trophy wives, trophy meant beautiful and hot but now it means also having an equally impressive career and income for securing power couple status.

LOL.

Is this a DC thing?

It's a DCUM thing.

Well I’ve seen this in my Wall Street acquaintances. They do want beautiful wives who are (expressly or implicitly) willing to put their careers on the back burner. But having an accomplished wife/GF/fiance is actually seen as desirable. My brother told me at one point “the ideal wife would be an artist who went to Brown who you marry then stays home in Scarsdale.” They absolutely do not want (or could not cope with) a woman who had an actual career.

Ideal wife is just that: an ideal.

My ideal husband will make 5 million dollars a year and only work 20 hours a week. ( and I would blow away the tiniest chance I'd have of marrying into an already wealthy family because I would never sign a prenup).

But when it comes down to it, something gotta give.

And for most wealthy men, they will pick the beautiful woman without a career over the so so looking one with a career. The power couple thing is for men still trying to make it.

Now proximity to powerful men at work/ school give powerful women a better shot than those with no career to land these guys. But the guys don't care either way. You caught his eye because you are beautiful. You just happen to be smart too. He will respect your career because it is important to you, and he loves you.

I don’t think you get what I’m saying. These Wall Street guys expressly discuss how they do not want their wives to have careers. They would pick a less beautiful woman who would stay at home over a beautiful woman who made it clear that her career came first and she expected then to step back or be equal partners at home. This is their actual plan. They are fundamentally sexist d*cks and totally upfront about it. So yeah, if you’re a woman in your 20s, beautiful, intelligent- it is an option in NYC to target a Wall Street bro and you would be “wasting” your 20s if you didn’t do it then. But buyer beware, as they say. In your 30s your world will be very small and built entirely around consumption.

This does not necessarily have to be a bad thing.

If I were working 100 hours a week, I would want a spouse who would stay at home too.

One of the things I cherished about my DH was that he worked a 9-5. I wasn't sure if I wanted to go into big law/ consulting, and I was happy that if I married him and decided to go into big law/ consulting one of us will be readily available when the children needed us.

So are these mem just being practical? Some women like consumption, and they would complement these men.

Yes, they are being practical about getting what they want and acting in accordance with their horrible values